[SM] Super Metroid revolutionEX

2008-10-08 03:13:37 pm

Yes, I have played metroid 2. when I was like, 6.
and I first played SM when I was even younger. (it scared the crap out of me laugh new

.)
anyway, I forget completely about the baby metroid when you mentioned the metroid 2 references.
~~and I didn't understand what you said for the second reference.~~
Wait....for the second reference, you mean the things in the water place? those are on the original SM.

I have a save state that has 76% in 2:44, which explored more than what was in the game. Twisted Evil

xKonvicted

2008-10-11 04:40:33 pm

UnSealed And UnBound

Ok i have one problem with this (sry if its been answered in the 18 pages of post but you know.)
I've tried patchin this to (E) and (JU) SM files but no luck Evil or Very Mad

....anyone got any pearls of wisdom?

Zhs2

2008-10-11 04:45:57 pm

Yo.

It's for an unheadered rom; have you checked to make sure your (JU) rom is unheadered? Hang on, let me grab up my copy of header reference...

[quote=Header reference]Did you pay attention to whether or not your Super Metroid (JU) rom had a header? Check the first page of this topic for whether or not this patch is Headered or Unheadered, then make sure your rom is changed to fit.

BTW, a header is $200 bytes at the beginning of your rom that some games just have (for no good reason as of the present time.) You can tell your rom is unheadered if it came with the name Super Metroid (JU) (!).smc, the (!) marking a headerless, untouched copy. If you need to header or unheader your rom, download a copy of SMILE (recommended for beginners) at http://jathys.zophar.net, or SNESTool, which is the more advanced option. If none of this works, you need a new rom.[/quote]

xKonvicted

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xKonvicted: 2008-10-11 04:55:43 pm

2008-10-11 04:52:33 pm

UnSealed And UnBound

Kthx, ill help with a lil more detail with what happens
1. title screen loads up fine
2. i get to a black screen with planet zebes at the top, then i choice of A B and directional pad.
3. i hit A then the sound goes away and im left staring at black :-s

MODIFY:
Yes its unheadered.
Super Metroid (JU)[!].smc is wat it says the file is :-({|= :-({|=

Zhs2

2008-10-11 05:07:08 pm

Yo.

Strange. That's exactly what happens when your Super Metroid rom is headered and it's patched with a .ips file made for an unheadered rom. Check to make absolutely sure that your rom is 3,072 kb instead of 3,073 kb, and, like I quoted, if all else fails, get a new rom.

BTW, I like the song you're playing. You should definitely start a band. :P

xKonvicted

2008-10-12 01:35:03 pm

UnSealed And UnBound

Haha yea, I did have to get a new rom, Hate when its labeled unheadered and its actually headered :-s
Well im liking it so far, Had a sped moment when i was blasting a wave beam space pirate with the power beam and wondering why it wasnt dying lol.

Acheron

2008-10-12 01:54:22 pm

Acclaimed Threshold

Constant Sorrows

(JU) doesn't mean unheadered, it means Japan/US. There's no label to distinguish headered/headerless.

BiggestSchnoz

2008-10-14 01:47:52 pm

[BANNED]

I beat this one again. grin new

6:36 at 59% items this time round. In the escape sequence, I didn't have to use savestates half as often which means I'm probably getting better. Sooner or later I'll save the animals....

:-)

It seems others find all the cool stuff, though:

1) One person has found a debug room Bloodsonic has left accessable.

2) Another person has found a fake tourian entrance somewhere.

Where are these areas?? How do you get to them?? What items do we most likely have at both points??

*gets Zhs2 a birthday cake*
*notices wrinkles forming on him*
*yep, he's one year older*
*everyone watches Zhs2 beat BiggestSchnoz with cane*
*wishes Zhs2 happy birthday*

Zhs2

2008-10-14 02:02:41 pm

Yo.

This debug room you speak of is accessible from a vertical shaft room in Tourian right after the part with the Mini-Metroids. I think this room is right before Mother Brain's room, but I forget. I don't know if Bloodsonic has removed access to this, though. Look for speed-booster blocks. Wink

IMHO, I had no idea there was a fake Tourian entrance. Look around and see what you can find, though.

Oh, and before I forget...

*Beats BiggestSchnoz with a cane once more, just for the hell of it* laugh new

Bloodsonic

2008-10-14 03:13:06 pm

fake tourian entrance is to the left of the room with the broken metroid container. there's a morphball hole that shows you the elevator room to tourian, but you can't reach it.

the debug room is still there.

BiggestSchnoz

2008-10-14 09:53:02 pm

[BANNED]

When playing RevolutionEX, there seems to be a couple things about walljumping I'm not aware of:

First, when walljumping, sometimes I suddenly morph into a ball. That happens seemingly at random and breaks the walljump. Is it possible to do it so it's not so random?? Like when I actually want it to happen instead of hoping it will randomly happen when I want it to??

Secondly, I notice when I'm walljumping up between real narrow walls, I can just hold the direction to the wall being climbed and repeatedly quickly press jump and go up that way. I'm wondering if this can be done with a single wall instead of two walls close to each other, as well....

Acheron

2008-10-14 10:04:37 pm

Acclaimed Threshold

Constant Sorrows

Did you mess up the patching process somehow? That's not normal.

ZephyrZx

2008-10-14 11:49:57 pm

Quote from BiggestSchnoz:

When playing RevolutionEX, there seems to be a couple things about walljumping I'm not aware of:

First, when walljumping, sometimes I suddenly morph into a ball. That happens seemingly at random and breaks the walljump. Is it possible to do it so it's not so random?? Like when I actually want it to happen instead of hoping it will randomly happen when I want it to??

Secondly, I notice when I'm walljumping up between real narrow walls, I can just hold the direction to the wall being climbed and repeatedly quickly press jump and go up that way. I'm wondering if this can be done with a single wall instead of two walls close to each other, as well....

About the first one, you might be messing up when pressing the buttons, about the second one, in other hack, called Playground i think, there's an underwater wall which has a crevice with the morph ball in it, the thing is, you can't normally reach it since there's no gravity in the hack, but, 1 tile just next to the wall has those Treadmill tiles pointing towards the wall, so when you walljump underwater you keep getting pushed against the wall, going up a few frames per jump, enough to get up to the morph ball, but you gotta time it with the "tide" of the water xd.

ASCII would be:

I
O <-
I<-
I<-
I<-
I<-

O being the morph ball and <- being the treadmill tiles xd

[quote="BiggestSchnoz"]
When playing RevolutionEX, there seems to be a couple things about walljumping I'm not aware of:

First, when walljumping, sometimes I suddenly morph into a ball.  That happens seemingly at random and breaks the walljump.  Is it possible to do it so it's not so random??  Like when I actually [i]want[/i] it to happen instead of hoping it will randomly happen when I want it to??

Secondly, I notice when I'm walljumping up between real narrow walls, I can just hold the direction to the wall being climbed and repeatedly quickly press jump and go up that way.  I'm wondering if this can be done with a single wall instead of two walls close to each other, as well....
[/quote]About the first one, you might be messing up when pressing the buttons, about the second one, in other hack, called Playground i think, there's an underwater wall which has a crevice with the morph ball in it, the thing is, you can't normally reach it since there's no gravity in the hack, but, 1 tile just next to the wall has those Treadmill tiles pointing towards the wall, so when you walljump underwater you keep getting pushed against the wall, going up a few frames per jump, enough to get up to the morph  ball, but you gotta time it with the "tide" of the water xd.

ASCII would be:

[u]  [/u]I
[u]O[/u] <-
  I<-
  I<-
  I<-
[u]  [/u]I<-

O being the morph ball and <- being the treadmill tiles xd

BiggestSchnoz

2008-10-15 12:39:51 am

[BANNED]

Here's a screenshot of where I can walljump like how I described, in Revolution EX. I don't think it would be possible, correct me if I'm wrong, to walljump like that if the walls were farther apart. And I don't think I have a faulty rom or patch, it might just be an interesting find.

attachment:

Super Metroid Revolution EX (JU) [!]_00027.png

Bloodsonic

2008-10-15 03:45:04 pm

Quote from BiggestSchnoz:

Here's a screenshot of where I can walljump like how I described, in Revolution EX. I don't think it would be possible, correct me if I'm wrong, to walljump like that if the walls were farther apart. And I don't think I have a faulty rom or patch, it might just be an interesting find.

well I didn't change any physics,so I don't know why thats happening.

Odylg

2008-10-16 09:38:47 am

I run this here hotel of an evening

i happens because the walls are so close together that you don't move far enough away from the wall to break wall jump. AFAIK it won't work on a single wall or 2 walls farther apart. at least, i couldn't get it to work like that

btw awesome hack

TwinNova

2008-10-21 06:29:41 am

Hey guyz, (first post is alwayz weird)

Anywayz I cant seem to get the game working, after I patch it, and boot up Zsens it just freezes. Little help?

Quietus

2008-10-21 06:37:14 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Check the ROM, first.

It should be the JU version, not E.

Open the ROM in SMILE and remove the header, if it has one.

Then ensure the two files (ROM and IPS patch) are named the same thing, and are in the same folder.

Load the ROM as normal.

TwinNova

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TwinNova: 2008-10-21 06:52:42 am

2008-10-21 06:42:22 am

Quote from Quietus:

Check the ROM, first.

It should be the JU version, not E.

Open the ROM in SMILE and remove the header, if it has one.

Then ensure the two files (ROM and IPS patch) are named the same thing, and are in the same folder.

Load the ROM as normal.

Thx, works fine now.

EDIT: Firstly is supposed to have no map and secondly how the fudge do I get the morphball?

Zhs2

2008-10-21 09:30:26 am

Yo.

You go around to get Morph Ball.

Look in the ceiling; one of the tiles looks fake enough, no?

And, yes, the "no map" thing is intended.

BiggestSchnoz

2008-10-21 02:17:46 pm

[BANNED]

Quote from Quietus:

Then ensure the two files (ROM and IPS patch) are named the same thing, and are in the same folder.

Actually, that's one way of doing it. I prefer hard patching it with Lunar IPS, but I suppose it's just personal preference.... :-)

Quietus

2008-10-21 04:59:35 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Yeah, I was only explaining the easy way to do it, as it's one less program involved. Wink

Also, if the hack gets an update, you have to mess around patching again, whereas having separate files eliminates this.

Odylg

2008-10-26 01:25:51 am

I run this here hotel of an evening

i found a couple of places to get stuck while morphed. and a place to jump through a fair bit of ground, which saves you from having to bomb a bunch of shit to continue. awesome!

BiggestSchnoz

2008-10-26 02:16:03 am

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Quote from Odylg:

i found a couple of places to get stuck while morphed. and a place to jump through a fair bit of ground, which saves you from having to bomb a bunch of shit to continue. awesome!

Yep, there are a few places we can get stuck while morphed.... Hmm, where can we jump to save a lot of bombing to continue, out of curiosity??

Odylg

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Odylg: 2008-10-26 02:22:54 am

2008-10-26 02:20:05 am

I run this here hotel of an evening

just before getting springball, after killing the second wave pirate and ghetto jumping up second slope. it made me stand. i killed the two pirates above and then tried to do a mid-air morph, turned, and was able to jump out. tried it a few times and got it each time

EDIT: in the room before ridley my speed dash doesn't work right. i get the echoes for maybe a second then they dissapear and then i'm just running fast, not invincible or anything. that's the only room i have that problem in