The "I need help" Topic

2008-12-01 10:05:57 am

Are you doing a low% run or something? In a normal run you shouldnt have to avoid ridley at all because he dies way way before you do if you just sit there and blast him repeatedly with charged plasma or missiles.

Phazar

2008-12-01 03:12:57 pm

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Charged Wave Beam does more damage than Missiles.

Opium

2008-12-01 03:22:28 pm

Quote from Phazar:

Charged Wave Beam does more damage than Missiles.

I'm aware of that. Has nothing to do with the fact that Ridley dies way before you do, or my question as to whether or not he's doing a low% run.

BioSpark

2008-12-01 04:32:47 pm

Just keep spamming diagonal charge beam shots. If you have enough tanks it shouldn't be a problem.

zx123

2008-12-01 04:42:00 pm

thanks, I made him disappear(only for a little while extra_smug

)
well, now the sa-x is giving me problems(first form).No question though.

UchihaSasuke

2008-12-01 04:51:15 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

the SA-X fight is just run and gun. time your movement to be standing in front of her and shoot her with a fully charged shot with her on sight and still have enough time to jump and avoid the ice beam. don't screw attack her since you'll lose lots of health.

zx123

2008-12-01 04:57:12 pm

Yes, i've discovered the hard way how the sa-x's screw attack does damage.
And I'm really bad with timing jumps, i'm always a 1/2 second too late. Sad

tomatobob

2008-12-01 05:02:25 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

If you have trouble timing the jump try jumping right after you release the charge shot, s long as you're space jumping the only thing that can hit you is SA-X and you have plenty of time to do that.

zx123

2008-12-01 05:05:16 pm

okay i'll try that.
Also i'd like to know how to double bomb jump.
Sorry, but fusion is my first 2d metroid. Embarassed

tomatobob

2008-12-01 05:09:21 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Double bomb jump doesn't really work in this one, even if you pull it off it doesn't accomplish anything.

zx123

2008-12-01 05:09:50 pm

ok thanks!

Quietus

2008-12-01 05:11:38 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Essentially, you can't.

BioSpark does it in his latest run, but it's a TAS, not played on a console.

Accursed simultaneous posting, let alone a reply... Evil or Very Mad

P.JMan

2008-12-01 05:35:39 pm

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

This is my old stratagy for beating the SA-X, worked every single time

zx123

2008-12-01 06:18:22 pm

Thanks, i'll try it.

JaggerG

2008-12-01 06:31:24 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Basically, you just can't give it a chance to shoot, and try really hard not to be in its jumping path after you shoot it.

Quote from Opium:

Quote from Phazar:

Charged Wave Beam does more damage than Missiles.

I'm aware of that. Has nothing to do with the fact that Ridley dies way before you do, or my question as to whether or not he's doing a low% run.

He probably intended more to tell him than to tell you, as you said beam or missiles, as though they're both comparable options. A lot of people that have played metroids before seem to believe super missiles are better for bosses by default. If you take the Ridley battle from Super Metroid into consideration, super missiles shoot fast enough to do more damage per second than charged shots.

Here, though, the shots do damage per frame instead of per shot, so it's just massively stronger, and you do a little more damage if you shoot diagonally, because it stays in the hitbox longer.

zx123

2008-12-01 06:37:55 pm

Quote from Opium:

Are you doing a low% run or something? In a normal run you shouldnt have to avoid ridley at all because he dies way way before you do if you just sit there and blast him repeatedly with charged plasma or missiles.

Sorry i never replied, but i somehow didn't see it.
No, I'm not dowing a low% run, but it's my first run for fusion ever.
(Also, i don't mean to be picky but don't you have the wave beam at that point?)

zx123

2008-12-01 07:07:58 pm

Sorry about the barrage of questions but my brother is begging me to do this...
how do you shinspark cancel?
Otherwise, how do you extend the time your dash is charged?

Quietus

2008-12-01 08:40:07 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

You can't cancel a shinespark as far as I know.

To maintain a charge, you need to do a horizontal spark into a slope, making sure you keep hold of the run button and forward.

Once you hit the slope, Samus will continue running at full speed, allowing you to charge again.

Note that you're not really 'maintaining' the charge, but repeatedly charging.

zx123

2008-12-01 08:41:49 pm

thank you very much!
And i beat the game! extra_smug

but its nothing special time is so bad!

P.JMan

2008-12-02 02:59:42 am

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

Quote from Quietus:

horizontal spark into a slope, making sure you keep hold of the run button and forward.

(you can also Diagonally spark), also, you've been playing too much Redesign

JaggerG

2008-12-02 04:21:13 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

For future reference, double posting is against another policy. Please read the forum rules thread at your earliest convenience.

Also, have you collected many expansions yet? After you beat the game, you can check each map to see if you got all of each expansion. Some require some pretty tricky shinespark techniques.

Quietus

2008-12-02 06:00:46 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Quote from P.JMan:

(you can also Diagonally spark), also, you've been playing too much Redesign

I wasn't aware you could diagonally spark to renew your charge, as the angle would be wrong? Unless you mean do it in general, as information for zx123... Eh?

As for Redesign, I haven't played it in a while, actually, but I read my post again, and realised that I'd mentioned you have to run. Razz

JaggerG

2008-12-02 03:31:38 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

I've seen diagonal shinesparking to recharge in ZM, but it takes pixel precision I think. You seem to spark at more of a 30 degree angle I guess. I've never seen anyone use it diagonally to recharge in Fusion.

BioSpark

2008-12-02 08:03:06 pm

It can be done in the first big room of sector 4.

detonator300

2008-12-03 07:20:17 am

Are you ready for some underwear music?

What actually counts as a "big room"? A room bigger than one screen or so?