A very pressing matter regarding MP:FF

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:34:10 pm

red chamber dream

right, i play 99% of games exactly once. that's true of echoes too

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:34:31 pm

red chamber dream

i started another playthrough a few years back but got to torvus and just couldn't go on

man what a fucking slog that game is

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:34:46 pm

red chamber dream

watching speed runs is fun at least!

Aruki

2015-06-25 09:37:19 pm

Although in fairness Ingsmasher is based on Elite Pirate - they're called ElitePirate internally, lol

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:37:33 pm

red chamber dream

lol why am i not surprised

fucking retro man

arkarian

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arkarian: 2015-06-25 09:38:23 pm

2015-06-25 09:38:02 pm

red chamber dream

i do respect that they tried to do something different with corruption - i don't hate that game, it's just not metroid

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:38:13 pm

red chamber dream

i definitely had fun with it

Aruki

2015-06-25 09:40:06 pm

Corruption fell short in a lot of ways (aside from the controls). I really hate Hypermode :/

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:41:59 pm

red chamber dream

i don't like the concept, but when playing it was nice because it made all the dumb parts easy :D

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:42:22 pm

red chamber dream

i have way more of a problem with the fact that retro tried to make it a first person shooter and failed extremely hard

Aruki

2015-06-25 09:42:36 pm

At least they didn't make Federation Force.

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:42:46 pm

red chamber dream

true, but they made echoze !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:42:59 pm

red chamber dream

moar like ec doze mirite

Aruki

2015-06-25 09:43:24 pm

You probably wouldn't be surprised to hear that supposedly 70% of Echoes was done in like three months either

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:43:51 pm

red chamber dream

i would be surprised if that weren't the case haha

that game was very clearly rushed, and obviously mostly recycled

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:44:21 pm

red chamber dream

i can understand someone liking it more than prime if it's the first prime game they played i guess

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:44:33 pm

red chamber dream

first impressions are huge for sure

Aruki

2015-06-25 09:45:29 pm

Funny thing is everything I've read about it seems to indicate that MP1's development was hell, yet the final game doesn't seem to be reflective of that at all.

tomatobob

2015-06-25 09:46:02 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from arkarian:

first impressions are huge for sure

Yeah but the first thing you see in Echoes is Boring Bland Zone the Graybrown!

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:46:32 pm

red chamber dream

it's the biggest mystery to me

retro is clearly not a very good studio, at least not during the prime 1-3 days

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:46:49 pm

red chamber dream

but somehow they just got lucky ... as if god said let there be prime and there was

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:46:52 pm

red chamber dream

and it was good.

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:49:00 pm

red chamber dream

i'm willing to accept it as a happy accident because it means i don't have to have any expectations for future games

really think metroid is done being a good series, and has been for years

arkarian

2015-06-25 09:49:17 pm

red chamber dream

since about 2004 in fact

Toozin

2015-06-25 10:07:05 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

I firmly believe Prime 1 was what it was because of Shiguru Miyamoto.

You'll notice he had far less involvement in Echoes and Corruption.