A very pressing matter regarding MP:FF

Toozin

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Toozin: 2015-06-17 09:51:33 pm

2015-06-17 09:51:13 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Also it's not mirrored so you get the Real Game Experience which is how Real Gamers play, not on scrub ports like a fag.

arkarian

2015-06-17 09:51:38 pm

red chamber dream

i am looking forward to it, believe it or not

looking back, wtf was up with shake to attack ... such an awful control scheme

Toozin

2015-06-17 09:53:59 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Because IMMERSION!

tomatobob

2015-06-17 09:56:44 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

If I remember right it wasn't like that initially but people were all pissy about it so Nintendo a was all fine have waggle idiots.

tomatobob

2015-06-17 09:57:11 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

No one knew at the time that the Wii mote was really only good for pointing.

Aruki

2015-06-17 09:57:17 pm

They usually go a year and a half or so from announcement -> release of a new console (or at least they did for Wii/Wii U). I figure they announce NX in 2016 and release it in 2017. That'd give the Wii U a 5-year run which is pretty much average (though it feels like below average because the last console gen was longer than usual).

tomatobob

2015-06-17 09:58:26 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

True, 360 was out for forever.

arkarian

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arkarian: 2015-06-17 10:15:42 pm

2015-06-17 10:15:28 pm

red chamber dream

parax that's true, but i think the wii u has been such a failure that they might rush the nx out. otoh it would certainly make more sense for the nx to come out in 2017, since zelda is assumedly coming out in autumn 2016. that would give them time to do a new 3d mario game too, which the wii u is still missing. somehow i can't imagine them not doing one, but maybe they'll actually skip a console.

rekameohs

2015-06-17 10:17:47 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

And you're just neglecting the 3D Mario game that does exist on Wii U because you dislike it or something?

arkarian

2015-06-17 10:19:55 pm

red chamber dream

i mean a successor to galaxy

arkarian

2015-06-17 10:20:05 pm

red chamber dream

i loved 3d world

rekameohs

2015-06-17 10:24:57 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Well, then 3D World is a successor to Galaxy. I mean, it's the same team and everything. Next one will almost certainly launch with NX.

arkarian

2015-06-17 10:25:20 pm

red chamber dream

if that's true it seems like it's gotta be 2016 then

Toozin

2015-06-17 10:29:08 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

The nx needs to have an insanely strong launch. Holding off the next Mario for it is one way to help that happen.

Zeke

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Zeke: 2015-06-17 10:33:42 pm

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Zeke: 2015-06-17 10:31:46 pm

2015-06-17 10:31:21 pm

Time bomb set get out fast!

Twilight Princess was great. I'll grant that it didn't bring as much new stuff to the table as most Zelda games (and suffered from coming out at the same time as Phantom Hourglass, which did), but in two categories it was the best Zelda to date:

* Combat. Some actual challenge for the first time since the NES, and swordplay with some variety to it. Nothing in Ocarina was interesting to fight and everything in WW was too easy (those A button attacks... come on). TP fixed both. And yes, waggle went on to be terrible in a million other games, but in this one it worked.

* Scale. Let me rephrase that: SCALE. Everything was huge. The horse actually mattered because you had so much ground to cover. The dungeons were like whole Metroid Prime areas. The bosses! The places you went! Man, I want to play it again just remembering that feeling of scope.

For that stuff I can forgive any number of get-the-fish-for-the-cat quests. Well, okay, two.

Also, since this is a Zelda thread now, know how the trendy thing these days is to claim LttP was the last truly great one? Here's a guy arguing that even LttP was a mistake and only the first two were good.

[ED: Oh. I was too slow and now it's a Mario thread.]

Twilight Princess was great. I'll grant that it didn't bring as much new stuff to the table as most Zelda games (and suffered from coming out at the same time as Phantom Hourglass, which did), but in two categories it was the best Zelda to date:

* Combat. Some actual challenge for the first time since the NES, and swordplay with some variety to it. Nothing in Ocarina was interesting to fight and everything in WW was too easy (those A button attacks... come on). TP fixed both. And yes, waggle went on to be terrible in a million other games, but in [i]this[/i] one it worked.

* Scale. Let me rephrase that: [b]SCALE.[/b] Everything was huge. The horse actually mattered because you had so much ground to cover. The dungeons were like whole Metroid Prime areas. The bosses! The places you went! Man, I want to play it again just remembering that feeling of scope.

For that stuff I can forgive any number of get-the-fish-for-the-cat quests. Well, okay, two.

Also, since this is a Zelda thread now, know how the trendy thing these days is to claim LttP was the last truly great one? [url=http://tevisthompson.com/saving-zelda/]Here's a guy arguing[/url] that even LttP was a mistake and only the first two were good.

[ED: Oh. I was too slow and now it's a Mario thread.]

arkarian

2015-06-17 10:35:18 pm

red chamber dream

i agree about combat and scale, and the dungeons were some of the best in the entire series ... but everything else was garbage lol

arkarian

2015-06-17 10:36:00 pm

red chamber dream

the overworld and characters were all boring and ugly, and the sound had this weird subdued feel to it

arkarian

2015-06-17 10:38:18 pm

red chamber dream

heh wow i mostly agree with that guy that mm and tww are two very special games

tomatobob

2015-06-17 10:39:33 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Zeke:

* Combat. Some actual challenge for the first time since the NES

Uh I'm gonna really super disagree there. Like at no point was that game challenging. And I'm an incompetent moron.

arkarian

2015-06-17 10:40:36 pm

red chamber dream

o i missed that part, yeah it wasn't challenging at all. i just liked how tons of weapons could be used to do damage, and those sword techniques were neat when i could pull them off

fucking wiimote, can't wait to try it with a real controller

tomatobob

2015-06-17 10:42:24 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

The thing with the parry attacks in Wind Waker is that yeah it made fights even easier, but the animations were cool and it made fights feel more dynamic and fluid and look great and fun and oh man I love fighting Dark Nuts in that game and it made the Ganon fight so ridiculously cool.

tomatobob

2015-06-17 10:42:34 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

God Wind Waker is fun.

Toozin

2015-06-17 10:45:21 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Twilight Princess needed a) a color palette and b) to stop sucking Occarina of Time's dick every 5 seconds. Then I would have liked it a lot more.

arkarian

2015-06-17 10:46:13 pm

red chamber dream

yeah seriously lol

man tp's dungeons + tww's overworld would be an amazing zelda game

tomatobob

2015-06-17 10:46:47 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Toozin:

Twilight Princess needed a) a color palette and b) to stop sucking Occarina of Time's dick every 5 seconds. Then I would have liked it a lot more.

To be fair, that's what "everyone" wanted Zelda to be.