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screw that
I guess I'm just not feeling the outrage over this, sorry to let everybody down :(
(I'm not interested in the game though)
I like turtles.
Only Reggie himself is interested in this game!
red chamber dream
i'm not feeling the outrage either (i haven't cared about metroid for a very long time), i just don't understand nintendo's business decisions
red chamber dream
i think nintendo being japanese has 100% to do with it though, japanese companies just don't work like western ones
red chamber dream
they're extremely traditional and based in all these antiquated ideas
I don't have a problem with them doing stuff in the metroid prime universe though that isn't metroid, in fact I think that's kind of a smart idea
I didn't really expect to get a metroid game on the wii u though, not sure why ... it would probably have to have a pretty generous budget to do it justice, maybe more than any of the other nintendo IPs
red chamber dream
i didn't either, but i was pretty hopeful for 3ds
red chamber dream
it's 100% understandable why nintendo isn't making any more wii u games
red chamber dream
making customers happy and making money is not the same thing
in a sense I guess yeah

personally I've never  quite subscribed to this notion that you have to be the market leader or your console is an automatic failure, if the thing is profitable then it's never seemed that important to me being in third place. but yeah there's the opportunity cost that instead you could ditch it and launch something else that might sell better
red chamber dream
yeah and again i think it's the japanese mentality

it wasn't even close to the wii, so the wii u was a failure
red chamber dream
i think it will be profitable for them in the long run, just not profitable enough to stroke their egos as much as they'd like
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
I agree that Nintendo should pump out a 2D Metroid asap. I can see the cost of a fully HD Wii U Metroid not being worth it, considering the past sales of the series and the small install base, but a 2D title should be fairly cheap on any platform. And Nintendo would have to be blind not to see the success of stuff influenced by Metroid like Guacamelee and Axiom Verge. They have to know there's a demand.

But then again, they do love to live in their bubble where nothing but Nintendo exists, so maybe they don't have a clue.
red chamber dream
i really think nintendo doesn't have a clue

they pretend they do, but they don't
The Japanese aren't the only ones who consider it a failure though. I don't think the Wii U would have to be a market leader to be successful, but it does have to sell enough units to make it worth the time to develop games for it. Look at stuff like Ubisoft sitting on Wii U games that are fully completed but not releasing them because they don't think it'd be profitable.

And yeah I can't imagine a 2D Metroid on 3DS not being a huge success. I don't understand why they're developing Federation Force instead of that.
red chamber dream
that's all true, i was just attempting to explain why nintendo is winding down development on wii u

nintendo sees themself as the biggest and best games company in the world (even though it's not true), and if their sales don't reflect that, they're a failure
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
It's true you don't have to be top dog to be a success, but when your console is selling at a slower rate than the Dreamcast it's time to ask a few questions.
how did hunters sell? anybody know offhand?
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
0.76m according to VGChartz, 1.08m according to Video Game Sales wikia. No idea how accurate those numbers are, but I can't find any other sources.
red chamber dream
vgchartz isn't "accurate", but it's generally considered close enough
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
I think it's safe to say that it sold worse than any other Prime title except Pinball.
red chamber dream
i guess the reason i'd rather have a 2d metroid than another prime game is because 2/3 of the prime games were garbage ... if they went with a studio besides retro i might be excited though