The Official Other M Sequence Breaking Thread

creXALBO

2011-02-06 03:15:23 am

Part-time philosopher

The first three posts...

Quote from Toozin:

lol

Quote from arkarian:

rotfl

Quote from Tahngarthor:

you can break the sequence by choosing 'NO' when asked to continue.

DID I MISS SOMETHING?!?!?!

Opium

2011-02-06 11:57:58 pm

Yes, I would say you did.

Metroid_Zelda Fan

2011-02-11 07:54:28 pm

Does anyone have a way to test if there's an invisible wall blocking that missile tank in the room where you first fight the Tree Giraffe? I want to know if you can get it before coming back with everything.

Daemon5258

2011-10-29 08:36:26 am

In the Elevator Room (The one that's darkish before you 1st turn on the power), there is a green square opening to the left side.
You are supposed to turn on the power and activate the switch to make the platform appear.
BUT, I tried like heck yesterday to get that power up (Missle Tank) before turning on the power, but I can't for some reason.

I've tried IBJ, Spring Balling off the higher ledge, morphing while hugging the edge of the ledge (propeling me off the the left side), and even gripping the ledge (opposite of the hole in the wall) and "ledge jump / wall jump" and a mid-air morph ball, BUT NOTHING WORKS.

I can shoot inside the square, I just can't get in there without activating the electricity and extendable ledge.

________ ___________ < - Top Ledge
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__ ___________ < - Missile Expansion Green Square Entrance
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________ ___________

mpfanatic

2011-10-29 01:49:20 pm

Quote from Daemon5258:

I've tried IBJ, Spring Balling off the higher ledge, morphing while hugging the edge of the ledge (propeling me off the the left side), and even gripping the ledge (opposite of the hole in the wall) and "ledge jump / wall jump" and a mid-air morph ball, BUT NOTHING WORKS.

Well you've named off pretty much all the techniques that WOULD work towards sequence breaking... If the game wasn't designed with communities like this in mind. I have sat around for countless hrs trying to find ways to break this game to no avail...

Not sayin it can't be done, but good luck my friend. And this is all based off of personal experience so please post results if you succeed!

Baron Dante

2011-11-01 05:39:57 pm

We did get something back then. We were able to open a three lock seeker Missile door without Seeker Missiles. It was useless though.

It was also very close to getting the 5-lock ones. I still think it might be remotely possible. I'm not sure, but it was tried to get as far off of the door as possible, then shoot the missiles in rapid succession while walking towards it, but that didn't work... when I tried this, it was ridiculously hard to even do it. I think there might be enough room to optimize this to break through.

So... that's all we have in a year of work. :/ One remotely possible trick, a ridiculously hard one at that, which may or may not lead to anything useful. (Though, in theory, it should, more or less, allow skipping Seeker Missiles)

Opium

2011-11-01 06:38:39 pm

They were probably so proud of their unbreakable metroid game. Then the reviews and sales figures came in.

Behemoth

2011-11-02 01:43:49 pm

lol, I really hope that it's taught them a lesson.

sabata2

2011-11-02 03:01:00 pm

ANKOKU

I'm more hoping the lesson is more learned on "Samus is independent and not completely reliant on others" over linearity.

Yes it's bad, but having an "open world" Metroid game with the Other M Samus would be worse than what we got IMO.

Baron Dante

2011-11-02 07:24:16 pm

It wouldn't even have to be a truly open world. Just enough to make people think it is. :3

sabata2

2011-11-02 07:49:22 pm

ANKOKU

Like Prime! :D

UchihaSasuke

2011-11-03 09:31:00 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

that also increases the chance of accidental SBs as a bonus.

Zeymah

2012-09-07 02:43:33 pm

Yol dok, Dovahkiin.

Sequence breaking has always been a major part of Metroid, from day one. I would hoped that between Team Ninja and Nintendo, they would've figured that out and built it to the same variable degree. It seems not.

Brick wall

JaggerG

2014-01-23 12:39:48 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Use this concept and do something, guys. So far it theoretically saves about a second in 100%.

kirbymastah

2014-01-23 12:54:30 am

That... was something

AutoFire

Edit history:

AutoFire: 2014-01-23 04:52:31 pm

2014-01-23 04:52:22 pm

My god... he found a secret world.

Prime Hunter

2014-01-24 03:17:40 am

Here's the better question: Can you replicate this or was it a one time event?

Jimmyfosho

Edit history:

Jimmyfosho: 2014-01-24 08:19:36 pm

2014-01-24 08:19:16 pm

forever seeking the answers.

he has replicated it a few times on stream, but it seems pretty difficult/inconsistent from what he told me.

kirbymastah

2014-01-26 02:07:37 am

from what jaggerg told me, you basically have to go super fast in the parts before the OoB, and reach it before it's loaded

JaggerG

2014-01-29 01:48:35 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

I've managed to do it in my 3:15 100%. Very difficult to tell if it's actually faster, but it's probably as consistent as actually spacejumping over the damn rock above the missile tank. >:^(

I've looked into other places you're technically out of bounds during speedruns, but unfortunately they're during room transitions, so the screen freezes until the room loads around you. Interesting thing though: coming back from Sector Zero in Sector 1, sometimes if you morph as soon as you gain control and roll to the door, the door's not there like 60% of the time, and you can roll into the next room. And like I said, the screen freezes, the door loads behind you, the game appears to advance one frame, then freezes until the other room loads.

Another bizarre thing that appears useless: door transitions occasionally move the door and its frame. O_o It pushes it in the direction you're moving, though, so it seems useless. The door outside Sector 0 that eventually loads has seams around the door you can see through because the door frame is out of place.

I've managed to do it in my 3:15 100%. Very difficult to tell if it's actually faster, but it's probably as consistent as actually spacejumping over the damn rock above the missile tank. >:^(

I've looked into other places you're technically out of bounds during speedruns, but unfortunately they're during room transitions, so the screen freezes until the room loads around you. Interesting thing though: coming back from Sector Zero in Sector 1, sometimes if you morph as soon as you gain control and roll to the door, the door's not there like 60% of the time, and you can roll into the next room. And like I said, the screen freezes, the door loads behind you, the game appears to advance one frame, then freezes until the other room loads.

Another bizarre thing that appears useless: door transitions occasionally move the door and its frame. O_o It pushes it in the direction you're moving, though, so it seems useless. The door outside Sector 0 that eventually loads has seams around the door you can see through because the door frame is out of place.

sabata2

2014-02-05 01:04:08 am

ANKOKU

Well... You've gone and done it.
This thread isn't just a joke anymore.

arkarian

2014-02-05 01:15:53 am

red chamber dream

<jagger> oh, it was a joke?

tomatobob

2014-02-05 02:31:29 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from sabata2:

Well... You've gone and done it.
This thread isn't just a joke anymore.

lol let's not be silly now.

UchihaSasuke

2014-02-06 03:36:32 am

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

the only way to strip this thread of joke status is find the trigger to trigger the escape sequence on the first visit and beat the game in 5 minutes.

Prime Hunter

2014-02-06 12:45:39 pm

So all we need to do is get to where Adam's helmet is, right?

Probably not, since based on tests I remember people doing early on getting to places like the Ridley fight early doesn't work. I doubt it'd be that simple here.