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tate: 2011-08-31 06:24:19 pm
hey with the quality of play you are putting out in each segment I would be very happy with a 2017 completion as a viewer. Keep up the awesome work!
A wonderful run so far!  please keep up the good work!  I can't wait to see the rest!
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2011-09-18 06:39:18 am
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
i think it would be clever to keep the save before segment 2 when you finish your run you can look what the endtime is if its 0:xx:50 the split was fine
if it is 0:xx:10 it was a bad idea to split the segment
because you know that you can push it down by 1 minute Think
that's faulty logic. there are numerous factors that go into the ending time.
If I get that close to the next minute, that just means I haven't been taking enough steroids.
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i think it would be clever to keep the save before segment 2 when you finish your run you can look what the endtime is if its 0:xx:50 the split was fine
if it is 0:xx:10 it was a bad idea to split the segment
because you know that you can push it down by 1 minute Think


If he's gonna keep a save from this early in the run he may as well just redo the entire run from scratch. <.<
my umbrella goes directly to Bankai
and if he's going to worry about saves, might as well make it SS from the get-go (the steroids won't last probably)
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2011-09-21 06:45:39 pm
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
yea but i think if we will not find any new speedtricks in segment 1 or 2 it is better to start from seg. 3 and not from the beginning.... i think they are one of the harder ones
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yea but i think if we will not find any new speedtricks in segment 1 or 2 it is better to start from seg. 3 and not from the beginning.... i think they are one of the harder ones

Compare time spent making Segments 1/2 with time spent making Segments 3/4 so far.

There's just no reason to bother with the hassle. This is the most important run of any Prime game to date, really. Considering 80% of it almost like a test run to simply be thrown away is just senseless considering how much work Miles is putting into this and how much more it would take to actually remove the split and save time at all. It's okay for even crazier improvements to wait for future runs; despite how awesome and significant this run is, I don't think anyone expects it to possibly be the last Echoes world record ever.
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
@TheOthin im pretty sure that it will definitly not be the last world record on echoes ever because this game is pretty large and i think there are still a couple of improvements to find and no i just want him to keep this safe.
when it is possible to safe a minute by combining this segment im pretty sure that someone (i think miles aiwebs_017) will try to get this 52 instead of 53 or something...
and i think that he would be glad that he can play from segment 3 instead of 1...
I'm not going to redo 83% of the run just to cut off 20 seconds in the absolute best case scenario. >_>
Is this on hiatus formally while you fool around with Prime 1 or just back burner (no complaints, take your time, just out of curiosity)?
I want to finish MP1 100% before going back to this, yeah.
Cheers, good luck!


Well, so much for my sub-7 goal.
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
are you gonna keep this or go for sub 7?

As I'm sure you know 2 seconds could be saved by
4:26 not doing that.
6:23 switching to dark beam before morphing
...The point was that sub-7 is apparently a pretty crappy goal.

Switching to the Dark Beam earlier makes no difference since I have to wait for Dynamo Access to load.
Anywhere, everywhere
That one still worked even without a refill in the annihilator skip! Probably need one in the actual run because of the ing hop though.
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
Afaik you can activate the dark portal without changing the map at 0:51. that could save a little time
No you can't.
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
Oh yeah, you're right its elevators that you can do this with not portals, sorry about that :P
my umbrella goes directly to Bankai
hm, so there's about 5-6 seconds of improvement until it can reach acceptable levels?
Anywhere, everywhere
There's been 8 seconds improved from that video already, and about 5 more can be saved.
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
yeah the current goal is 6:50 and i think its not gonna be the last goal... well depends on miles


This doesn't matter until Segment 7, but anyway...