[SM] Super Metroid: Pantheon

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cosmic: 2008-10-23 06:41:50 am

2008-10-22 03:51:46 pm

am I stucked in here? I came from the left side

dont know why the pic is not showing up... I try it this way...http://www.pictureupload.de/pictures/221008215828_Pantheon_SUPER_METROID_-_Kopie000.png

Bloodsonic

2008-10-22 06:32:05 pm

Easy hacks are good. I'm pretty damn good at super metroid, but I still enjoy easier hacks more.
(and there aren't enough of them any ways.)
Go through the door on the left. Power bombs are there. Take them and gtfo.
if you want to get back to the other side, you gotta walk around.

Off topic:

Quote from cosmic:

stucked

*Bloodsonic glares at everyone who says stucked*
STUCK.
STUCK.
STUCK.

Quietus

2008-10-23 05:52:50 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Ask a silly question, as I haven't got this far, but isn't it a brown door, which can't be opened, which would mean they are stuck(ed)?

cosmic

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cosmic: 2008-10-23 08:28:43 am

2008-10-23 06:43:06 am

Quote from Bloodsonic:

Easy hacks are good. I'm pretty damn good at super metroid, but I still enjoy easier hacks more.
(and there aren't enough of them any ways.)
Go through the door on the left. Power bombs are there. Take them and gtfo.
if you want to get back to the other side, you gotta walk around.

Off topic:

Quote from cosmic:

stucked

*Bloodsonic glares at everyone who says stucked*
STUCK.
STUCK.
STUCK.

sry my fault - I CAME from the left side lol - cant go back cause the door is GREY ! anyway I have savestats. just wanted to show that I am stuck - stucked whatever

another q: how do I get these SM's ?

squishy_ichigo

2008-10-23 10:34:28 am

. . .

check under where you got the missles.

cosmic

2008-10-23 11:13:29 am

Quote from squishy_ichigo:

check under where you got the missles.

I saw that before, but I dont have any SM - can you give me a hint where to get my first SM's - I found a couple of places to get SM's but to get these you need to destroy blocks with SM's ;)

squishy_ichigo

2008-10-23 11:25:29 am

. . .

You don't get your first Supers until after Kraid, and there is no way to get early supers.

cosmic

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cosmic: 2008-10-23 11:55:32 am

2008-10-23 11:33:40 am

Quote from squishy_ichigo:

You don't get your first Supers until after Kraid, and there is no way to get early supers.

edit: found it

TwinNova

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TwinNova: 2008-10-23 09:11:06 pm

2008-10-23 08:57:09 pm

Just got the speed booster, cant work out whats next.

cosmic

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cosmic: 2008-10-24 11:41:43 am

2008-10-24 11:19:40 am

Where's Phantoon ? Can't find him.

and what about this E-Tank in Maridia in the sand? any chance to get it ? ;)

petrie911

2008-10-24 02:09:25 pm

Quote from petrie911:

OK, I just got Varia and have no clue where to go. It seems like I should have Morph Ball by now.

help, anyone?

squishy_ichigo

2008-10-24 02:15:28 pm

. . .

TwinNoza:

Explore the big room in Crateria right before the Brinstar elevator.

cosmic:

Phantom is in Underwater Kraid, near the top.

petrie911:

After Varia you will want to explore heated Norfair. You will find Morphball soon after.

Note: If you find the map of an area, you can usually pause and see spots to go to next!;)

TwinNova

2008-10-24 09:07:18 pm

Quote from squishy_ichigo:

TwinNoza:

Explore the big room in Crateria right before the Brinstar elevator.

cosmic:

Phantom is in Underwater Kraid, near the top.

petrie911:

After Varia you will want to explore heated Norfair. You will find Morphball soon after.

Note: If you find the map of an area, you can usually pause and see spots to go to next!;)

Thx, and its TwinNova Wink

Deep_Space_Observer

2008-10-25 08:08:22 pm

Animals Saved
Clear time: 6:44
Collection: 78%

This hack was alright. That's about all I can think to describe it, as the rooms were very generic. I wished there was some more shape to the rooms. Most all of the game was either going straight horizontal or straight vertical through tunnels. Using slopes to make paths rise and fall even just a few tiles makes it feel much more natural.

Kejardon

2008-10-26 12:14:45 am

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

ugh.

Played last weekend. Eventually died in Norfair from soooo many annoyingly tough enemies (the Violas eventually killed me) and too little firepower. Went here to complain when I found from reading a post I had apparently taken a wrong turn and went to a hard area early.
Ok then.

Played again today. Eventually died once (sidehopper) and had to rewind a bit. Ended up going to Norfair again, although I went out of my way to look for other options first.
Got to where I am in my screenshot. Double-checked a savestate in tmv. There aren't any secret paths to get out of here and I don't have bombs to even bombjump (though I can't kill the rippers so I'd have to bomb jump around them). I have Spazer and Morph Ball, and the rest is visible.
Technically, I'm not stuck. I helped Saturn find a way to walljump up such a situation, but I certainly shouldn't have to resort to TAS-only tricks nor cheating.

Overall there is clearly not enough forethought or testing for the hack. A number of enemies have relatively cheap placement to hit you quickly when you enter a room. The enemies are annoyingly tough to kill and there's a LOT of them - I ended up dodging and jumping around enemies far more often then killing them, while in the original game I more often snipe enemies. This also caused a lot of lag from all the enemies alive on screen. That might've been more my fault for apparently picking the hard route, but that route seems pretty blatantly obvious to me - otherwise you're expecting me to backtrack a lot when there are interesting paths right in front of me. And finally, getting stuck is kinda a problem.

ugh.

Played last weekend. Eventually died in Norfair from soooo many annoyingly tough enemies (the Violas eventually killed me) and too little firepower. Went here to complain when I found from reading a post I had apparently taken a wrong turn and went to a hard area early.
Ok then.

Played again today. Eventually died once (sidehopper) and had to rewind a bit. Ended up going to Norfair again, although I went out of my way to look for other options first.
Got to where I am in my screenshot. Double-checked a savestate in tmv. There aren't any secret paths to get out of here and I don't have bombs to even bombjump (though I can't kill the rippers so I'd have to bomb jump around them). I have Spazer and Morph Ball, and the rest is visible.
Technically, I'm not stuck. I helped Saturn find a way to walljump up such a situation, but I certainly shouldn't have to resort to TAS-only tricks nor cheating.

Overall there is clearly not enough forethought or testing for the hack. A number of enemies have relatively cheap placement to hit you quickly when you enter a room. The enemies are annoyingly tough to kill and there's a LOT of them - I ended up dodging and jumping around enemies far more often then killing them, while in the original game I more often snipe enemies. This also caused a lot of lag from all the enemies alive on screen. That might've been more my fault for apparently picking the hard route, but that route seems pretty blatantly obvious to me - otherwise you're expecting me to backtrack a lot when there are interesting paths right in front of me. And finally, getting stuck is kinda a problem.

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Opium

2008-10-26 12:33:08 am

I had ice when I got to where you're at, but I don't remember where I got it.

Quote from Kejardon:

but that route seems pretty blatantly obvious to me - otherwise you're expecting me to backtrack a lot when there are interesting paths right in front of me.

That's an interesting way to look at it, I guess I took for granted the way that some designers consider things when making a hack.

uNsane

2008-10-26 09:20:13 am

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Quote from Opium:

I had ice when I got to where you're at, but I don't remember where I got it.

Coming from Norfair, you reach that room before you can get Ice Beam.

If I recall correctly, it's actually about three or four rooms after that one, or before if you're following the "intended" path.

TwinNova

2008-10-27 10:42:08 pm

Im above Crateria (wrecked ship) and I cant fkn get the upgrade there (assuming its bomb) Little help

Gaius_4

2008-10-28 01:10:19 am

Are you talking about going through that little morphball maze?

If it's a matter of jumping up and morphing -- you may have to use slow-down to jump and morph. :-?

That's pretty hard to do... For me anyways. & I hope that is what you were talking about.

TwinNova

2008-10-28 01:25:08 am

Quote from Gaius_4:

Are you talking about going through that little morphball maze?

If it's a matter of jumping up and morphing -- you may have to use slow-down to jump and morph. :-?

That's pretty hard to do... For me anyways. & I hope that is what you were talking about.

It was, so as in slow the frame rate down? How do I do that? (never needed to do that before on zsnes)

Quietus

2008-10-28 06:23:50 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

If you go into the options on ZSNES, you can actually reconfigure the speed up and slow down buttons to whatever you like, so that if you need to use it again, it's on a key that is more convenient for you.

Gaius_4

2008-10-28 08:45:57 pm

I don't feel very motivated. I have Gravity Suit, Ice beam, bomb & mb.... Grapple and Missiles.

I'm not sure where to go next (exactly).

I may need Super Missiles or Power bombs. However, the only new place that opened up -that I noticed- was a gray door near the landing site. That let me into the wrecked ship and I came up underneath that room with the Red Pirates.

Oni Elem

2008-10-29 10:05:30 am

Quote from Gaius_4:

I don't feel very motivated. I have Gravity Suit, Ice beam, bomb & mb.... Grapple and Missiles.

I'm not sure where to go next (exactly).

I may need Super Missiles or Power bombs. However, the only new place that opened up -that I noticed- was a gray door near the landing site. That let me into the wrecked ship and I came up underneath that room with the Red Pirates.

You'll be needing Power Bombs. To get them, you need to find an elevator in watery brinstar that goes to watery kraid, they're behind a grey door, that opens when you beat a boss.

CymicX

2008-11-01 11:32:31 am

Okay, I'm stuck with this:

100 missiles
10 Pb
5 E-Tanks + 2 Reserve
Grapple
Varia
Gravity
Ice
Charge
Ball + Bombs
High Jump
Speed Booster
Phantoon beaten

So now I'm guessing I need something like:

Wave or Supers

But I'm clueless as where to go, I searched almost everywhere but i can't seem to find the way.

Great hack by the way, nice to se a good balance of fun and optional challenge^^.

Thanks in advance!

squishy_ichigo

2008-11-01 11:35:21 am

. . .

You'll want wave next. Head on over to Ridley, and explore the under lava area.
If you've never been there yet, head to the lowest point in Norfair, and make a right. You'll find your way.