Pretty sure you can not skip Varia with 0 tanks... there's a SW in the elevator room next to TFT but you cannot traverse through TFT fast enough with one tank.
oh, were you talking about getting charge beam? i was wondering if 21% with sj would be faster if the varia suit were skippable.
oh, yeah it definitely would. it looks like you'd need charge to skip varia though unless other ways are found to get into both the magmoor workstation and transport access sws. well it's either that or we find a way through magmoor to near phen without taking damage ...
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Pretty sure you can not skip Varia with 0 tanks... there's a SW in the elevator room next to TFT but you cannot traverse through TFT fast enough with one tank.
right. we're trying to find a way to get wave without going through the heated part of magmoor at all.
Pretty sure you can not skip Varia with 0 tanks... there's a SW in the elevator room next to TFT but you cannot traverse through TFT fast enough with one tank.
right. we're trying to find a way to get wave without going through the heated part of magmoor at all.[/quote] Right. I... don't see that being very possible but I wish you luck.
Furthermore, by looking into these things, who knows what other things we may come across? New SWs & viable VMRs are amongst the first things that come to mind.
Could getting bombs before morph ball be a possibility for 20% ? I think that Flamancipator tried to wallcrawl to the bombs, but has never been able to load the room with the boss. Any news about that ? However, even if we could get bombs before morph ball, we are not sure that we could use morph ball.
Could getting bombs before morph ball be a possibility for 20% ? I think that Flamancipator tried to wallcrawl to the bombs, but has never been able to load the room with the boss. Any news about that ? However, even if we could get bombs before morph ball, we are not sure that we could use morph ball.
As far as I can remember, you start off morphed and then when you unmorph you can't morph again.
some people have mentioned missiles but that doesn't really seem likely to me. x-ray is the other obvious one, but in almost 8 years no one has figured out how to damage op without it.
or if someone could figure out how to damage mp second form without the phazon suit and also grab the artifact in the phazon without the phazon suit then we could skip x-ray and phazon suit at the same time. Those have probably also been tried dozens of times too though.
Missiles seems like the most likely to me. Can morphball before missiles be done without SJ? If so, the only other obstacle I can think of is Artifact of Nature, and it might be possible to get that through SW shenanigans.
the biggest obstacle for missiles is the morph ball and the artifact in that set of rooms and as rekamoehs just pointed out the ice beam, although it wouldn't surprise me if somehow people got ice beam to load without the full room loading and being able to escape.