The "I need help" Topic

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E-Dragon: 2015-08-29 07:40:18 pm

2015-08-29 07:21:30 pm

From my experience it depends on from which side you are boosting against the crates. For example if I boost into the the "alternative crates" right behind the standard crates after you messed up at the standard crates I only get crashes when boosting from the same direction as I did for the standard crates.
I´m not sure ( because I´m very new ), but I think lowering the helmet opacity to 0 helps ???(at least HUD doesn´t get look that strange with those black bars then)? I also turn off HUD lag (whatever that is, but it sounds bad).
Also I´m reloading the room and then get IS and do ILS right after that, but I think that is just preference and just faster, but make sure you are reloading the room correctly, so you have to wait for the door to open.
I don´t think the crates at the spot where you get IS matter for this trick, but I pretty much never destroy them anyways.
Another thing I noticed is that holding slightly forward and medium boost is not any required. You can also easily do ILS by fully forward or do a fully charged boost.
Finally try a bit around with different crates and positions. Maybe you get more success with different crates.

Maybe someone else can give you a more detailed explanation on how the trick actually works and give better advice.

I hope I could help ya.

@Kirbymastah I figured most of that stuff out myself already messing around with it >_> (I hate that shit digger for it already) , but I guess I still have to mess with it more to get more consistent with it and will try out the damage thingie. Thank you ^^

From my experience it depends on from which side you are boosting against the crates. For example if I boost into the the "alternative crates" right behind the standard crates after you messed up at the standard crates I only get crashes when boosting from the same direction as I did for the standard crates.
I´m not sure ( because I´m very new ), but I think lowering the helmet opacity to 0 helps ???(at least HUD doesn´t get look that strange with those black bars then)? I also turn off HUD lag (whatever that is, but it sounds bad).
Also I´m reloading the room and then get IS and do ILS right after that, but I think that is just preference and just faster, but make sure you are reloading the room correctly, so you have to wait for the door to open.
I don´t think the crates at the spot where you get IS matter for this trick, but I pretty much never destroy them anyways.
Another thing I noticed is that holding slightly forward and medium boost is not any required. You can also easily do ILS by fully forward or do a fully charged boost.
Finally try a bit around with different crates and positions. Maybe you get more success with different crates.

Maybe someone else can give you a more detailed explanation on how the trick actually works and give better advice.

I hope I could help ya.

@Kirbymastah I figured most of that stuff out myself already messing around with it >_> (I hate that shit digger for it already) , but I guess I still have to mess with it more to get more consistent with it and will try out the damage thingie. Thank you ^^

Schmeman

2015-08-30 09:49:32 am

Ah thank you very much, apparently I was not reloading the room correctly and didn't realize it until you gave your post. Thanks to your advice, my success rate for this trick has shot up tremendously. :D

Now to practice Aether jumps and Out-of-Bounds travel (which thankfully, Aether jumps don't seem to be as difficult as I initially suspected, just a little frustrating).

Also, are you by any chance EternisedDragon or Aran;Jaeger? The name E-Dragon seems very coincidentally similar to a member of the Super Metroid community (especially since we're on a Metroid Speedrunning forum). Anyway, thanks again.

E-Dragon

2015-08-30 11:33:42 am

almost Schmeman, ED is my brother. Regarding the name ... it´s a long story.

anyways, glad I could help ya ^^

Odylg

2016-01-10 02:33:54 pm

I run this here hotel of an evening

Having some trouble on a Randomizer seed. I'm in Dark Agon (Doomed Entry atm) and I need to get to Battleground to get Light Beam. I currently have:
-Dark Beam
-Grapple Beam
-Screw Attack
-Power Bombs
-Dark Visor
-Echo Visor
-Violet Translator
-Amber Translator
-Cobalt Translator
-Various Keys (no full set)
and the stuff I started with.

Thankfully I haven't saved back here.

I tried using Screw Attack to get out in Bitter Well but can't seem to get Samus into the tunnel. Dunno if this is one that doesn't work or if I'm just not doing it right. Are there any SWs I can use to get to Battleground?

Seed:

Randomizer V3.0
Seed: 1776640307
Excluded pickups: None
Temple Grounds - - - Hive Chamber A - - - - - - - Dark Agon Key 3
Temple Grounds - - - Hall of Honored Dead - - - - Screw Attack
Temple Grounds - - - Hive Chamber B - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 30
Temple Grounds - - - War Ritual Grounds - - - - - Sky Temple Key 8
Temple Grounds - - - Windchamber Gateway - - - - - Dark Agon Key 2
Temple Grounds - - - Transport to Agon Wastes - - Power Bomb
Temple Grounds - - - Temple Assembly Site - - - - Echo Visor
Temple Grounds - - - Grand Windchamber - - - - - - Dark Torvus Key 1
Temple Grounds - - - Dynamo Chamber - - - - - - - Dark Visor
Temple Grounds - - - Storage Cavern B - - - - - - Missile Expansion 42
Temple Grounds - - - Plain of Dark Worship - - - - Missile Expansion 43
Temple Grounds - - - Defiled Shrine - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 3
Temple Grounds - - - Communication Area - - - - - Missile Expansion 4
Temple Grounds - - - GFMC Compound - - - - - - - - Cobalt Translator
Temple Grounds - - - GFMC Compound - - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 4
Temple Grounds - - - Accursed Lake - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 5
Temple Grounds - - - Fortress Transport Access - - Energy Tank 7
Temple Grounds - - - Profane Path - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 25
Temple Grounds - - - Phazon Grounds - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 23
Temple Grounds - - - Ing Reliquary - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 4
Great Temple - - - - Transport A Access - - - - - Missile Expansion 34
Great Temple - - - - Temple Sanctuary - - - - - - Missile Expansion 9
Great Temple - - - - Transport B Access - - - - - Missile Expansion 28
Great Temple - - - - Main Energy Controller - - - Energy Tank 6
Great Temple - - - - Main Energy Controller - - - Beam Ammo Expansion 4
Agon Wastes - - - - Mining Plaza - - - - - - - - Dark Suit
Agon Wastes - - - - Mining Station Access - - - - Missile Expansion 45
Agon Wastes - - - - Mining Station B - - - - - - Ing Hive Key 2
Agon Wastes - - - - Transport Center - - - - - - Missile Expansion 41
Agon Wastes - - - - Mining Station A - - - - - - Energy Tank 8
Agon Wastes - - - - Ing Cache 4 - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 29
Agon Wastes - - - - Junction Site - - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 5
Agon Wastes - - - - Storage A - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 3
Agon Wastes - - - - Mine Shaft - - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 3
Agon Wastes - - - - Crossroads - - - - - - - - - Amber Translator
Agon Wastes - - - - Sand Cache - - - - - - - - - Dark Beam
Agon Wastes - - - - Portal Access A - - - - - - - Violet Translator
Agon Wastes - - - - Judgment Pit - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 1
Agon Wastes - - - - Agon Temple - - - - - - - - - Ing Hive Key 3
Agon Wastes - - - - Trial Tunnel - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 10
Agon Wastes - - - - Central Mining Station - - - Missile Expansion 33
Agon Wastes - - - - Warrior's Walk - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 2
Agon Wastes - - - - Sandcanyon - - - - - - - - - Dark Torvus Key 2
Agon Wastes - - - - Dark Agon Temple - - - - - - Energy Tank 11
Agon Wastes - - - - Battleground - - - - - - - - Light Beam
Agon Wastes - - - - Battleground - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 8
Agon Wastes - - - - Agon Energy Controller - - - Missile Expansion 14
Agon Wastes - - - - Ventilation Area A - - - - - Darkburst
Agon Wastes - - - - Command Center - - - - - - - Morph Ball Bomb
Agon Wastes - - - - Main Reactor - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 14
Agon Wastes - - - - Doomed Entry - - - - - - - - Grapple Beam
Agon Wastes - - - - Sand Processing - - - - - - - Dark Torvus Key 3
Agon Wastes - - - - Storage D - - - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 7
Agon Wastes - - - - Dark Oasis - - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 1
Agon Wastes - - - - Storage B - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 11
Agon Wastes - - - - Feeding Pit - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 16
Agon Wastes - - - - Bioenergy Production - - - - Missile Expansion 49
Agon Wastes - - - - Ing Cache 1 - - - - - - - - - Energy Transfer Module
Agon Wastes - - - - Storage C - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 37
Agon Wastes - - - - Ing Cache 2 - - - - - - - - - Space Jump Boots
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Lagoon - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 1
Torvus Bog - - - - - Portal Chamber - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 35
Torvus Bog - - - - - Path of Roots - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 31
Torvus Bog - - - - - Forgotten Bridge - - - - - - Super Missile
Torvus Bog - - - - - Great Bridge - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 12
Torvus Bog - - - - - Cache A - - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 13
Torvus Bog - - - - - Plaza Access - - - - - - - - Light Suit
Torvus Bog - - - - - Abandoned Worksite - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 7
Torvus Bog - - - - - Poisoned Bog - - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 1
Torvus Bog - - - - - Venomous Pond - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 38
Torvus Bog - - - - - Temple Access - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 2
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Plaza - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 36
Torvus Bog - - - - - Putrid Alcove - - - - - - - - Spider Ball
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Grove - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 10
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Temple - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 6
Torvus Bog - - - - - Dark Torvus Arena - - - - - - Missile Expansion 32
Torvus Bog - - - - - Dark Torvus Arena - - - - - - Missile Expansion 17
Torvus Bog - - - - - Underground Tunnel - - - - - Seeker Launcher
Torvus Bog - - - - - Meditation Vista - - - - - - Annihilator Beam
Torvus Bog - - - - - Dark Torvus Temple - - - - - Missile Expansion 5
Torvus Bog - - - - - Cache B - - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 19
Torvus Bog - - - - - Hydrodynamo Station - - - - - Sky Temple Key 6
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Energy Controller - - Missile Expansion 40
Torvus Bog - - - - - Undertemple Access - - - - - Missile Expansion 26
Torvus Bog - - - - - Gathering Hall - - - - - - - Energy Tank 4
Torvus Bog - - - - - Training Chamber - - - - - - Missile Expansion 21
Torvus Bog - - - - - Sacrificial Chamber - - - - - Energy Tank 13
Torvus Bog - - - - - Undertemple - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 22
Torvus Bog - - - - - Undertemple - - - - - - - - - Beam Ammo Expansion 1
Torvus Bog - - - - - Transit Tunnel South - - - - Missile Expansion 44
Torvus Bog - - - - - Transit Tunnel East - - - - - Missile Expansion 2
Torvus Bog - - - - - Dungeon - - - - - - - - - - - Emerald Translator
Torvus Bog - - - - - Hydrochamber Storage - - - - Missile Launcher
Torvus Bog - - - - - Undertransit One - - - - - - Energy Tank 9
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Entrance - - - - - Missile Expansion 48
Sanctuary Fortress - Reactor Core - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 15
Sanctuary Fortress - Transit Station - - - - - - - Boost Ball
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Map Station - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 3
Sanctuary Fortress - Hall of Combat Mastery - - - Sonic Boom
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Research - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 12
Sanctuary Fortress - Culling Chamber - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 5
Sanctuary Fortress - Central Area Transport West - Dark Agon Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 20
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works - - - - - - - - Beam Ammo Expansion 3
Sanctuary Fortress - Hazing Cliff - - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 8
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station - - - - - - - - Sunburst
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Dynamo Works - - - - - - Missile Expansion 7
Sanctuary Fortress - Sentinel's Path - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 39
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station Access - - - - Gravity Boost
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 6
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site - - - - Missile Expansion 46
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Gyro Chamber - - - - - - Missile Expansion 18
Sanctuary Fortress - Vault - - - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 27
Sanctuary Fortress - Temple Access - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 9
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Gyro Chamber - - - - - - Beam Ammo Expansion 2
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Temple - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 47
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Energy Controller - Missile Expansion 24
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Entrance - - - - - - - - Ing Hive Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerie - - - - - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 2

On a seperate note: I can't do the Echo puzzle in Mining Plaza. What's the trigger for letting me do that puzzle?

Having some trouble on a Randomizer seed. I'm in Dark Agon (Doomed Entry atm) and I need to get to Battleground to get Light Beam. I currently have:
-Dark Beam
-Grapple Beam
-Screw Attack
-Power Bombs
-Dark Visor
-Echo Visor
-Violet Translator
-Amber Translator
-Cobalt Translator
-Various Keys (no full set)
and the stuff I started with.

Thankfully I haven't saved back here.

I tried using Screw Attack to get out in Bitter Well but can't seem to get Samus into the tunnel. Dunno if this is one that doesn't work or if I'm just not doing it right. Are there any SWs I can use to get to Battleground?

Seed: [spoiler]Randomizer V3.0
Seed: 1776640307
Excluded pickups: None
Temple Grounds - - - Hive Chamber A  - - - - - - - Dark Agon Key 3
Temple Grounds - - - Hall of Honored Dead  - - - - Screw Attack
Temple Grounds - - - Hive Chamber B  - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 30
Temple Grounds - - - War Ritual Grounds  - - - - - Sky Temple Key 8
Temple Grounds - - - Windchamber Gateway - - - - - Dark Agon Key 2
Temple Grounds - - - Transport to Agon Wastes  - - Power Bomb
Temple Grounds - - - Temple Assembly Site  - - - - Echo Visor
Temple Grounds - - - Grand Windchamber - - - - - - Dark Torvus Key 1
Temple Grounds - - - Dynamo Chamber  - - - - - - - Dark Visor
Temple Grounds - - - Storage Cavern B  - - - - - - Missile Expansion 42
Temple Grounds - - - Plain of Dark Worship - - - - Missile Expansion 43
Temple Grounds - - - Defiled Shrine  - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 3
Temple Grounds - - - Communication Area  - - - - - Missile Expansion 4
Temple Grounds - - - GFMC Compound - - - - - - - - Cobalt Translator
Temple Grounds - - - GFMC Compound - - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 4
Temple Grounds - - - Accursed Lake - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 5
Temple Grounds - - - Fortress Transport Access - - Energy Tank 7
Temple Grounds - - - Profane Path  - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 25
Temple Grounds - - - Phazon Grounds  - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 23
Temple Grounds - - - Ing Reliquary - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 4
Great Temple - - - - Transport A Access  - - - - - Missile Expansion 34
Great Temple - - - - Temple Sanctuary  - - - - - - Missile Expansion 9
Great Temple - - - - Transport B Access  - - - - - Missile Expansion 28
Great Temple - - - - Main Energy Controller  - - - Energy Tank 6
Great Temple - - - - Main Energy Controller  - - - Beam Ammo Expansion 4
Agon Wastes  - - - - Mining Plaza  - - - - - - - - Dark Suit
Agon Wastes  - - - - Mining Station Access - - - - Missile Expansion 45
Agon Wastes  - - - - Mining Station B  - - - - - - Ing Hive Key 2
Agon Wastes  - - - - Transport Center  - - - - - - Missile Expansion 41
Agon Wastes  - - - - Mining Station A  - - - - - - Energy Tank 8
Agon Wastes  - - - - Ing Cache 4 - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 29
Agon Wastes  - - - - Junction Site - - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 5
Agon Wastes  - - - - Storage A - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 3
Agon Wastes  - - - - Mine Shaft  - - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 3
Agon Wastes  - - - - Crossroads  - - - - - - - - - Amber Translator
Agon Wastes  - - - - Sand Cache  - - - - - - - - - Dark Beam
Agon Wastes  - - - - Portal Access A - - - - - - - Violet Translator
Agon Wastes  - - - - Judgment Pit  - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 1
Agon Wastes  - - - - Agon Temple - - - - - - - - - Ing Hive Key 3
Agon Wastes  - - - - Trial Tunnel  - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 10
Agon Wastes  - - - - Central Mining Station  - - - Missile Expansion 33
Agon Wastes  - - - - Warrior's Walk  - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 2
Agon Wastes  - - - - Sandcanyon  - - - - - - - - - Dark Torvus Key 2
Agon Wastes  - - - - Dark Agon Temple  - - - - - - Energy Tank 11
Agon Wastes  - - - - Battleground  - - - - - - - - Light Beam
Agon Wastes  - - - - Battleground  - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 8
Agon Wastes  - - - - Agon Energy Controller  - - - Missile Expansion 14
Agon Wastes  - - - - Ventilation Area A  - - - - - Darkburst
Agon Wastes  - - - - Command Center  - - - - - - - Morph Ball Bomb
Agon Wastes  - - - - Main Reactor  - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 14
Agon Wastes  - - - - Doomed Entry  - - - - - - - - Grapple Beam
Agon Wastes  - - - - Sand Processing - - - - - - - Dark Torvus Key 3
Agon Wastes  - - - - Storage D - - - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 7
Agon Wastes  - - - - Dark Oasis  - - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 1
Agon Wastes  - - - - Storage B - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 11
Agon Wastes  - - - - Feeding Pit - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 16
Agon Wastes  - - - - Bioenergy Production  - - - - Missile Expansion 49
Agon Wastes  - - - - Ing Cache 1 - - - - - - - - - Energy Transfer Module
Agon Wastes  - - - - Storage C - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 37
Agon Wastes  - - - - Ing Cache 2 - - - - - - - - - Space Jump Boots
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Lagoon - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 1
Torvus Bog - - - - - Portal Chamber  - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 35
Torvus Bog - - - - - Path of Roots - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 31
Torvus Bog - - - - - Forgotten Bridge  - - - - - - Super Missile
Torvus Bog - - - - - Great Bridge  - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 12
Torvus Bog - - - - - Cache A - - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 13
Torvus Bog - - - - - Plaza Access  - - - - - - - - Light Suit
Torvus Bog - - - - - Abandoned Worksite  - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 7
Torvus Bog - - - - - Poisoned Bog  - - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 1
Torvus Bog - - - - - Venomous Pond - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 38
Torvus Bog - - - - - Temple Access - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 2
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Plaza  - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 36
Torvus Bog - - - - - Putrid Alcove - - - - - - - - Spider Ball
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Grove  - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 10
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Temple - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 6
Torvus Bog - - - - - Dark Torvus Arena - - - - - - Missile Expansion 32
Torvus Bog - - - - - Dark Torvus Arena - - - - - - Missile Expansion 17
Torvus Bog - - - - - Underground Tunnel  - - - - - Seeker Launcher
Torvus Bog - - - - - Meditation Vista  - - - - - - Annihilator Beam
Torvus Bog - - - - - Dark Torvus Temple  - - - - - Missile Expansion 5
Torvus Bog - - - - - Cache B - - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 19
Torvus Bog - - - - - Hydrodynamo Station - - - - - Sky Temple Key 6
Torvus Bog - - - - - Torvus Energy Controller  - - Missile Expansion 40
Torvus Bog - - - - - Undertemple Access  - - - - - Missile Expansion 26
Torvus Bog - - - - - Gathering Hall  - - - - - - - Energy Tank 4
Torvus Bog - - - - - Training Chamber  - - - - - - Missile Expansion 21
Torvus Bog - - - - - Sacrificial Chamber - - - - - Energy Tank 13
Torvus Bog - - - - - Undertemple - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 22
Torvus Bog - - - - - Undertemple - - - - - - - - - Beam Ammo Expansion 1
Torvus Bog - - - - - Transit Tunnel South  - - - - Missile Expansion 44
Torvus Bog - - - - - Transit Tunnel East - - - - - Missile Expansion 2
Torvus Bog - - - - - Dungeon - - - - - - - - - - - Emerald Translator
Torvus Bog - - - - - Hydrochamber Storage  - - - - Missile Launcher
Torvus Bog - - - - - Undertransit One  - - - - - - Energy Tank 9
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Entrance  - - - - - Missile Expansion 48
Sanctuary Fortress - Reactor Core  - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 15
Sanctuary Fortress - Transit Station - - - - - - - Boost Ball
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Map Station - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 3
Sanctuary Fortress - Hall of Combat Mastery  - - - Sonic Boom
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Research - - - - - - - - Energy Tank 12
Sanctuary Fortress - Culling Chamber - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 5
Sanctuary Fortress - Central Area Transport West - Dark Agon Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works  - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 20
Sanctuary Fortress - Dynamo Works  - - - - - - - - Beam Ammo Expansion 3
Sanctuary Fortress - Hazing Cliff  - - - - - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 8
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station - - - - - - - - Sunburst
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Dynamo Works - - - - - - Missile Expansion 7
Sanctuary Fortress - Sentinel's Path - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 39
Sanctuary Fortress - Watch Station Access  - - - - Gravity Boost
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site  - - - - Power Bomb Expansion 6
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerial Training Site  - - - - Missile Expansion 46
Sanctuary Fortress - Main Gyro Chamber - - - - - - Missile Expansion 18
Sanctuary Fortress - Vault - - - - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 27
Sanctuary Fortress - Temple Access - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 9
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Gyro Chamber - - - - - - Beam Ammo Expansion 2
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Temple - - - - - - - - - Missile Expansion 47
Sanctuary Fortress - Sanctuary Energy Controller - Missile Expansion 24
Sanctuary Fortress - Hive Entrance - - - - - - - - Ing Hive Key 1
Sanctuary Fortress - Aerie - - - - - - - - - - - - Sky Temple Key 2
[/spoiler]

On a seperate note: I can't do the Echo puzzle in Mining Plaza. What's the trigger for letting me do that puzzle?

Aruki

2016-01-10 02:53:54 pm

You should be able to get oob in Watering Hole. http://www.metroid2002.com/prime2/index.php?title=Watering_Hole_SW

Odylg

2016-01-10 04:16:53 pm

I run this here hotel of an evening

Sweet, got it. Harder than it looks, though that may just be a lack of skill on my part :)

Thanks

Jack879

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Jack879: 2016-01-31 12:17:47 pm

2016-01-31 11:51:59 am

Randomizer question: So I'm trying to get Cobalt Translator from Dynamo Works. I have SA so I'm using the SW in Dynamo Works to get to the PB door, but I've only loaded it once (randomly) and I can't seem to understand where the loading trigger is, or how to load the room with the Dark Aether portal. Any tips? (And yes I know about the instant morph trick in Dynamo Works to get the item. I don't want to do that.)

UchihaSasuke

2016-01-31 09:52:31 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

wouldn't coming from the front after using OoB to get past the cobalt gate solve this?

Jack879

2016-02-01 07:59:54 am

That's what I did, but I'd still like to know how to perform the trick.

MrSpEeDrUn

2016-04-11 08:30:14 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

Not sure if this is the right topic, but i wanted to ask miles if he can manage to make savestates work on console, i'd really like to practice with states on it and eventually start speedrunning this game much more seriously at some point.

E-Dragon

Edit history:

E-Dragon: 2016-04-12 03:39:32 pm

2016-04-12 03:16:04 am

I used savestates on dolphin to practice and it worked out pretty well actually.
Of course you can't practice everything on dolphin well like air underwater since dolphin lags as hell when you enter or leave a waterbox, but for the most important things like GA, bosses practice etc. it works, but of course it all depends on how strong your PC is.
I'll see if I can make the GA practice save file work on PAL with a little hex edit.
Update: I couldn't get it to work. I may look a bit more into it, but it's probably hopeless.

Also there is miles' echoes menu mod where you can warp to any rooms and change layers, which seems to be a good enough imo.

MrSpEeDrUn

2016-04-12 04:57:46 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

i think on dolphin there is a small input lag, which could be a problem if you ran this game at a high level, having states on console like you can in sm64 would be just amazing. But yeah if noone can pull it off i guess ill have to practice with dolphin when im back :/ - Hope someone finds a way. (a gecko OS code probably)

JosJuice

2016-04-13 04:44:17 am

Dolphin dev

Quote from MrSpEeDrUn:

i think on dolphin there is a small input lag, which could be a problem if you ran this game at a high level

The input lag can actually get pretty low on Dolphin. For best results, use exclusive fullscreen and disable XFB. Dolphin's native support for GameCube adapters is good for keeping the latency down, but I don't know how it compares to other control methods. Of course, what monitor you're using is also an important factor. This is mostly based on what I've heard from Smash players – they care a lot about latency for fairly obvious reasons.

MrSpEeDrUn

2016-05-06 06:15:28 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

so, i found out some stuff about my monitor, its called "QNIX QX2710 Evolution ll" and it has a input lag of exactly 22 ms. (according to this page, scroll almost all the way down -> http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx2710.htm )
1 frame at 60 fps equals 33,3(...) ms, so if my setup is good otherwise i should roughly have the same input lag than on gamecube right?
My monitor runs at 59 hertz, i could overclock my monitor to 120 hertz AFAIK, so will there be a difference or is it fine?
Should i overclock my monitor, or will i probably end up having smaller input lag than on a tv? i could imagine that being a bit annoying sometimes.

I read (here - https://www.smashladder.com/guides/view/2688/killing-input-lag-the-perfect-pc-setup-guide ), that an optimal setup for dolphin+gc controller runs at 18 ms, with an rts (which has ~8ms of input lag) which would mean 32ms with my monitor, being almost exactly like a tv, so if thats true then that'd be pretty neat.

My specs are pretty old (2010), but still pretty good: CPU: AMD phenom t1100 (6x3.3 ghz), geforce 580 gtx, 8gb ram. i will also stream everything with obs, but it should be fine.

so, i found out some stuff about my monitor, its called "QNIX QX2710 Evolution ll" and it has a input lag of exactly 22 ms. (according to this page, scroll almost all the way down -> http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/qnix_qx2710.htm )
1 frame at 60 fps equals 33,3(...) ms, so if my setup is good otherwise i should roughly have the same input lag than on gamecube right?
My monitor runs at 59 hertz, i could overclock my monitor to 120 hertz AFAIK, so will there be a difference or is it fine?
Should i overclock my monitor, or will i probably end up having smaller input lag than on a tv? i could imagine that being a bit annoying sometimes.

I read (here - https://www.smashladder.com/guides/view/2688/killing-input-lag-the-perfect-pc-setup-guide ), that an optimal setup for dolphin+gc controller runs at 18 ms, with an rts (which has ~8ms of input lag) which would mean 32ms with my monitor, being almost exactly like a tv, so if thats true then that'd be pretty neat.

My specs are pretty old (2010), but still pretty good: CPU: AMD phenom t1100 (6x3.3 ghz), geforce 580 gtx, 8gb ram. i will also stream everything with obs, but it should be fine.

Aruki

2016-05-06 07:08:45 pm

1 frame at 60 fps is 16ms, not 33ms. 33ms is for 30 fps.

MrSpEeDrUn

2016-05-07 05:06:41 am

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

that's true, but i read this on the page: " for rendering and input interpretation compared to a GameCube's hardware-bound t=33.33ms on a 60hz CRT TV. "
That should mean that you have (at least) 33.33... ms of input lag on gc.
But yeah, 1 frame is 16.6... ms at 60 fps, was just derping there.