Speed tricks topic

2015-03-20 05:12:26 pm

I wouldn't post about using spider ball lol.

I bomb jump to the post right next to the door, do a half hbj jump up to the rock, scan dash to the hole where you can get the etank. Then the hard part, dash to the platform in the middle. Then jump bomb jump to the rocks and up to the top.

TheMG2

2015-03-20 05:15:23 pm

Is it this?

JustinDM

2015-03-20 05:18:59 pm

Yea pretty much. That vid nor the next show that hard dash to get to the middle platform. But yep that's it.

TheMG2

2015-03-20 05:19:45 pm

Thats where his computer crashed because it was not liking amarec.

JustinDM

2015-03-20 05:21:53 pm

I'm still kinda hyped that I found it on my own. Thanks for finding that video

TheMG2

2015-03-20 05:23:37 pm

Might want to check for these kinds of things here: https://m2k2.taigaforum.com/post/various_no_space_jump_nsj__21_topic.html

It's a bit disorganized but the thread isn't that big.

Hazel

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Hazel: 2015-03-20 07:27:11 pm

2015-03-20 07:26:02 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Quote from TheMG2:

(also I'm assuming the answer isn't use spider ball)

lol

Also I've used a strat similar to this in randomizer, though I'm like 99% sure you can just jump onto that rock instead of doing the HBJ-esque thing

JustinDM

2015-03-20 07:29:18 pm

I tried to ghetto up there but I found the bomb jump easier.

Baby Sheegoth

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Baby Sheegoth: 2015-04-27 02:07:58 pm

2015-04-27 01:53:00 pm

Could this possibly be any faster for 100%? Probably not but... I've never seen anything about this that I can recall

Hazel

2015-04-27 11:03:32 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

I know I posted about exactly this in a thread somewhere. I think it might have been random research. Anyway yeah this is known, though I don't know if it was taken into account at all while routing 100%. Honestly I can't imagine a route where this saves time, since you're going to have to clean up the rooms leading up to Hive Mecha anyway, and that brings you straight to Wild/Vault.

Littlenino

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Littlenino: 2015-04-30 04:28:13 am

2015-04-30 04:26:46 am

No clue whether or not this is known, but I felt the need to document it anyway as it's very useful to know.

kirbymastah

2015-04-30 10:46:53 am

Quote from Littlenino:

No clue whether or not this is known, but I felt the need to document it anyway as it's very useful to know.

I guess I haven't messed up phendrana's edge enough on stream to show that, since that's what I do :P but yeah it's a nice backup climb and easy too

Baby Sheegoth

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Baby Sheegoth: 2015-04-30 01:11:34 pm

2015-04-30 01:07:14 pm

It's definitely well known, I doubt it's been documented though.

Littlenino

2015-04-30 04:16:50 pm

I figured that would be the case. I've just never seen anybody do it.

TheMG2

2015-04-30 04:57:08 pm

I saw m177 practice something like that once.

Metroid177

2015-05-01 04:24:17 pm

I was practicing the faster version of it, as seen in t3's video:

JustinDM

2015-05-16 03:23:49 am

I made a movement comparison for anyone interested.

Littlenino

2015-05-17 07:22:23 am

Would be better if you had included R Jumping, but great resource nonetheless.

Hazel

2015-05-17 12:43:00 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

R jumping kind of varies from player to player, especially chaining them. But this video is out there already:

JustinDM

2015-05-28 01:22:48 pm

This is a little trick during the escape I just so happened to stumble upon, maybe it could be of use in a segmented run if executed differently / better.

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Hazel

2015-05-28 02:15:03 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

I have a hard time seeing this saving time. Even with perfect hops, you're losing speed on each jump because of the slant of the ground. I can't see that speed boost saving the time you need to wait for it.

JustinDM

2015-05-28 02:18:04 pm

Yea I figured it would be a little sketchy.

MilesSMB

2015-05-29 06:30:43 pm

The next room starts loading immediately.

Baby Sheegoth

2015-05-30 07:08:45 pm

I don't think I've ever seen anyone do this and it's almost certainly the fastest way

Hazel

2015-05-31 05:03:11 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

The most important part of doing this room is how quickly you can turn around, not really how quickly you can get up.

Also that seems like a more tedious strat for the sake of being more tedious.