Super Metroid/SMILE Help Thread

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

2009-05-30 01:08:12 pm

Hey now! I registered Feb 2007! I really haven't been active around here up until Feb of this year! laugh new

Anyways, thanks tons for those offsets! Couldn't find them too well on an Afghan internet.....

Tyjet66

2009-05-31 01:20:41 am

What'd you say?

Quote from TAxxOUTBR3AKxx:

Couldn't find them too well on an Afghan internet.....

Are you Afghan or a soldier over there? Just curious.

Anyway (this is very hard for me to explain so please bear with me), I have a door and I removed the doors caps on both sides, when I enter the door it works fine but I'm wondering if I'm able to remove the doors tiles (back part of the doors) and just have an opening.

So pretty much what I'm asking is, how do I get an air tile to take the position of let's say door #02 and lead me to whatever room door #02 points me to.

(confused? Sorry. laugh new

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This will help a lot with how my hack plays if anyone can answer. Thanks for the help!

chozo_69

2009-05-31 03:04:33 am

well you almost answered your own ? sall you need to do is take an air tile like the for the back ground for instance and just convert it in to a door tile then go to your bts menu -- set the bts to the corresponding door number then drag onto your air tile

chozo_69

2009-05-31 03:10:34 am

Quote from Project XVIII:

If you permenantly screwed it up, you could always just take that part out (Game Behavior then Don't Show Intro or something like that).

well i knew thas but thx ----but i kinda need it im doing a my own rendition of super metroid

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

2009-05-31 03:20:22 am

Quote from Tyjet66:

Quote from TAxxOUTBR3AKxx:

Couldn't find them too well on an Afghan internet.....

Are you Afghan or a soldier over there? Just curious.

I'm a soldier in Afghanistan. My wife is also over here but at another FOB, so these forums and my current WIP keep my mind off of everything. So you will see me around alot.

Regarding your doors question, Chozo_69 gave you the easy rundown. Just use "Air tiles" and turn them into "Door tiles" on the edge of the screen. Then you can just right-click those tiles and type in the BTS Value that you had before (assuming you're using Smile 2.3). Doing it this way makes the game look more like a Fade-to-Black transition instead of a Scrolling Transition to the next room.

Tyjet66

2009-05-31 05:02:38 pm

What'd you say?

Quote from TAxxOUTBR3AKxx:

I'm a soldier in Afghanistan. My wife is also over here but at another FOB, so these forums and my current WIP keep my mind off of everything. So you will see me around alot.

You just got my highest respect. My dad has already served two tours. Good luck!

Thanks for the help guys, having just the back of some doors kinda made everything look a little tacky.

Tyjet66

2009-05-31 06:25:07 pm

What'd you say?

Does anyone know how to remove the acid from room: 7B1E5 (the chozo statue room where the statue lowers the acid.)? I can't figure it out and I kinda need to use that room.

Phazar

2009-05-31 10:14:57 pm

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I just found a new PLM in SMILE 2.30:

PLM B8AC: Rising Lava after Getting Speed Booster
[quote author=SMILE Text File]Sets the Rising Lava event, but can be used over and over. Basically, this PLM delays any rising lava effects (FX1) in a room unless it determines Samus has speedboots. If acquiring speedboots within the same room as the PLM, the lava will not rise until you return to the room.[/quote]
This could have interesting uses in a hack.

Quote from Tyjet66:

Does anyone know how to remove the acid from room: 7B1E5 (the chozo statue room where the statue lowers the acid.)? I can't figure it out and I kinda need to use that room.

Did you try setting the FX1 to None?

chozo_69

2009-05-31 11:02:19 pm

well iv asked this ? before only to prevail with an informative but pointless answer seeing as how i knew bout it :p but yea - i kinda need help on the room in ceres station with ridley in it i dont think i did Permanent damage to my rom but i could be wrong - but the animation for ridley when he flys away, when your heath is below 29 or drops he the metroid, is messed up like i know ill have to fix it with a hex editor but could someone point me in the right direction as like where the room coding is ? -thx -- and btw i cant start fresh im 3/4 in to my full hack and i just realized this now :( so unno how long ago it happened cuz i never checked it till now --- but yea eny help would be very appreciated

Tyjet66

2009-05-31 11:27:28 pm

What'd you say?

Quote from Phazar:

Quote from Tyjet66:

Does anyone know how to remove the acid from room: 7B1E5 (the chozo statue room where the statue lowers the acid.)? I can't figure it out and I kinda need to use that room.

Did you try setting the FX1 to None?

Yeah, that was the first thing I tried, I also set the surface values to FFFF and everything else to 00, nothing works at all. Room 7B1E5 is just causing problems but it will seem as if that room is a dead end, so I'm keeping the acid anyways.

Quote from chozo_69:

well iv asked this ? before only to prevail with an informative but pointless answer seeing as how i knew bout it :p but yea - i kinda need help on the room in ceres station with ridley in it i dont think i did Permanent damage to my rom but i could be wrong - but the animation for ridley when he flys away, when your heath is below 29 or drops he the metroid, is messed up like i know ill have to fix it with a hex editor but could someone point me in the right direction as like where the room coding is ? -thx -- and btw i cant start fresh im 3/4 in to my full hack and i just realized this now :( so unno how long ago it happened cuz i never checked it till now --- but yea eny help would be very appreciated

I dunno bout hex editing but you could just remove the intro.

[quote="Phazar"]
[quote="Tyjet66"]
Does anyone know how to remove the acid from room: 7B1E5 (the chozo statue room where the statue lowers the acid.)? I can't figure it out and I kinda need to use that room.
[/quote]
Did you try setting the FX1 to None?
[/quote]
Yeah, that was the first thing I tried, I also set the surface values to FFFF and everything else to 00, nothing works at all. Room 7B1E5 is just causing problems but it will seem as if that room is a dead end, so I'm keeping the acid anyways.

[quote="chozo_69"]
well iv asked this ? before only to prevail  with an informative but pointless answer seeing as how i knew bout it :p  but yea  - i kinda  need  help  on the room  in ceres station with ridley in it  i dont think i  did Permanent damage to my rom but i could be wrong  - but the  animation  for ridley  when he flys away, when  your heath is below 29 or drops he  the metroid,  is  messed up  like i know ill have to fix it with a  hex editor  but could someone point me in the right direction  as like where the room coding is  ?   -thx -- and btw  i cant  start fresh im 3/4  in to my full hack  and i just realized this now :( so  unno how long ago it happened  cuz i never checked it till now  --- but yea eny help would be very appreciated 
[/quote]
 I dunno bout hex editing but you could just remove the intro.

Deep_Space_Observer

2009-05-31 11:34:59 pm

Ridley flying away in Ceres will always reset the room design while it's happening so it's best to just leave it alone. It'd probably take a long time for anyone who wanted to figure out how to change that, seeing as it's mode 7 graphics and mode 7 is a pain even for Jathys.

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

2009-05-31 11:48:59 pm

Quote from chozo_69:

well iv asked this ? before only to prevail with an informative but pointless answer seeing as how i knew bout it :p but yea - i kinda need help on the room in ceres station with ridley in it i dont think i did Permanent damage to my rom but i could be wrong - but the animation for ridley when he flys away, when your heath is below 29 or drops he the metroid, is messed up like i know ill have to fix it with a hex editor but could someone point me in the right direction as like where the room coding is ? -thx -- and btw i cant start fresh im 3/4 in to my full hack and i just realized this now :( so unno how long ago it happened cuz i never checked it till now --- but yea eny help would be very appreciated

Try opening the original rom, go to that room and then while in that room, goto File>Open Rom. Open your rom with the damaged room. As soon as it opens, immediately hit Save Room, it should save the room from the Original Rom to your Rom. Hope this helps.

[quote="chozo_69"]
well iv asked this ? before only to prevail  with an informative but pointless answer seeing as how i knew bout it :p  but yea  - i kinda  need  help  on the room  in ceres station with ridley in it  i dont think i  did Permanent damage to my rom but i could be wrong  - but the  animation  for ridley  when he flys away, when  your heath is below 29 or drops he  the metroid,  is  messed up  like i know ill have to fix it with a  hex editor  but could someone point me in the right direction  as like where the room coding is  ?   -thx -- and btw  i cant  start fresh im 3/4  in to my full hack  and i just realized this now :( so  unno how long ago it happened  cuz i never checked it till now  --- but yea eny help would be very appreciated 
[/quote]

Try opening the original rom, go to that room and then while in that room, goto File>Open Rom. Open your rom with the damaged room. As soon as it opens, immediately hit Save Room, it should save the room from the Original Rom to your Rom. Hope this helps.

tbolt76

2009-06-01 12:31:35 am

Ok I seem to be having a problem with plms dissappearing. Some of the missiles and ect have just vanished into thin air when i test the rooms any idea of whats causing this?

Project XVIII

2009-06-01 01:53:55 am

I'm not sure if it would have anything to do with it but, do any of your plm's have the same index?

Sadiztik Fish

2009-06-01 02:06:39 am

OMG FLAN!!!!!!!

@ chozo_69:
Can you please use proper punctuation and spelling? Just cause it's much easier to read rather than trying to decipher txt language.

@ tbolt:
I had a problem with that with SMILE 2.00, and because of it, I've stuck with 1.32 till last week. Now I'm using 2.30.

Are the PLMs disappearing in SMILE or just in game? if it's in game, then the PLMs have the same index, if it's in SMILE, you've overwritten something, or (if you're using 2.00) then there's the bug that happens when you save in a room with no PLMs, and it deletes all PLMs in the next room.

chozo_69

2009-06-01 03:18:11 am

Quote from TAxxOUTBR3AKxx:

Quote from chozo_69:

well iv asked this ? before only to prevail with an informative but pointless answer seeing as how i knew bout it :p but yea - i kinda need help on the room in ceres station with ridley in it i dont think i did Permanent damage to my rom but i could be wrong - but the animation for ridley when he flys away, when your heath is below 29 or drops he the metroid, is messed up like i know ill have to fix it with a hex editor but could someone point me in the right direction as like where the room coding is ? -thx -- and btw i cant start fresh im 3/4 in to my full hack and i just realized this now :( so unno how long ago it happened cuz i never checked it till now --- but yea eny help would be very appreciated

Try opening the original rom, go to that room and then while in that room, goto File>Open Rom. Open your rom with the damaged room. As soon as it opens, immediately hit Save Room, it should save the room from the Original Rom to your Rom. Hope this helps.

thank you so very much iv bin trying to fix this for a couple of weeks now ------like unno how it worked but thx relli

[quote="TAxxOUTBR3AKxx"]
[quote="chozo_69"]
well iv asked this ? before only to prevail  with an informative but pointless answer seeing as how i knew bout it :p  but yea  - i kinda  need  help  on the room  in ceres station with ridley in it  i dont think i  did Permanent damage to my rom but i could be wrong  - but the  animation  for ridley  when he flys away, when  your heath is below 29 or drops he  the metroid,  is  messed up  like i know ill have to fix it with a  hex editor  but could someone point me in the right direction  as like where the room coding is  ?   -thx -- and btw  i cant  start fresh im 3/4  in to my full hack  and i just realized this now :( so  unno how long ago it happened  cuz i never checked it till now  --- but yea eny help would be very appreciated 
[/quote]

Try opening the original rom, go to that room and then while in that room, goto File>Open Rom. Open your rom with the damaged room. As soon as it opens, immediately hit Save Room, it should save the room from the Original Rom to your Rom. Hope this helps.
[/quote]

thank you so very much iv bin trying to fix this for a couple of weeks now ------like unno how it worked  but  thx relli

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

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TAxxOUTBR3AKxx: 2009-06-01 11:50:13 am

2009-06-01 03:20:18 am

Quote from Sadiztik Fish:

@ tbolt:
I had a problem with that with SMILE 2.00, and because of it, I've stuck with 1.32 till last week. Now I'm using 2.30.

Are the PLMs disappearing in SMILE or just in game? if it's in game, then the PLMs have the same index, if it's in SMILE, you've overwritten something, or (if you're using 2.00) then there's the bug that happens when you save in a room with no PLMs, and it deletes all PLMs in the next room.

Tbolt, not only check the index of the items, because yes, having 2 items of the same Index will cause the other to disappear if one is picked up of the same index.

Also, did you change the number of PLM's in the room to a different number (such as from 1 to 5?). If you did this, then it may be sharing the PLM pointer with that of another room, so wherever the item placement is in another room will directly affect where the items are placed in your room. It may be shared between 2 rooms you created.

For example: You have Room 1 and Room 2 you created. You changed PLM's in both rooms so both rooms have 3 PLM's. You edited the first room to how you like it, then in Room 2 edited it to how you like it. Play back in Room 1 and PLM's are either moved/missing. This would be cause by shared PLM Pointer Data. Or if it's gone for good, it could be because it is out of reach of the room. 1 PLM in a room could be now at location 4,4, while in your room that's 1x2, you will never see it because it never reaches. Sorry it's so long and seems complicated, but once you understand it you will know what I'm trying to say.

Edit: The easiest way I think of making sure there's no duplicates, is to start in the first room, number off your PLM's starting from "00" and then go to the next room in the list, and keep numbering up all the way until you hit the Ceres rooms, as normally they can't hold PLM's without crashing too much.

Also, how would I even begin to add the speed echoes to Samus so they are on only when running with the Dash button held down? I'm sure it's ASM to mess with, or is there just a way to have speed echoes always on, without the speed booster effect.

[quote="Sadiztik Fish"]
@ tbolt:
I had a problem with that with SMILE 2.00, and because of it, I've stuck with 1.32 till last week. Now I'm using 2.30.

Are the PLMs disappearing in SMILE or just in game? if it's in game, then the PLMs have the same index, if it's in SMILE, you've overwritten something, or (if you're using 2.00) then there's the bug that happens when you save in a room with no PLMs, and it deletes all PLMs in the next room.
[/quote]

Tbolt, not only check the index of the items, because yes, having 2 items of the same Index will cause the other to disappear if one is picked up of the same index.

Also, did you change the number of PLM's in the room to a different number (such as from 1 to 5?). If you did this, then it may be sharing the PLM pointer with that of another room, so wherever the item placement is in another room will directly affect where the items are placed in your room. It may be shared between 2 rooms you created.

For example: You have Room 1 and Room 2 you created. You changed PLM's in both rooms so both rooms have 3 PLM's. You edited the first room to how you like it, then in Room 2 edited it to how you like it. Play back in Room 1 and PLM's are either moved/missing. This would be cause by shared PLM Pointer Data. Or if it's gone for good, it could be because it is out of reach of the room. 1 PLM in a room could be now at location 4,4, while in your room that's 1x2, you will never see it because it never reaches. Sorry it's so long and seems complicated, but once you understand it you will know what I'm trying to say.

Edit: The easiest way I think of making sure there's no duplicates, is to start in the first room, number off your PLM's starting from "00" and then go to the next room in the list, and keep numbering up all the way until you hit the Ceres rooms, as normally they can't hold PLM's without crashing too much.

Also, how would I even begin to add the speed echoes to Samus so they are on only when running with the Dash button held down? I'm sure it's ASM to mess with, or is there just a way to have speed echoes always on, without the speed booster effect.

Project XVIII

2009-06-01 09:30:46 pm

Most likely asm, because AFAIK, smile doesn't have anything to make that happen.

interdpth

2009-06-02 08:18:43 pm

hey no one ever answered me what is a pointer and what is a bank? does a pointer point to a bank or something this makes no sense Eh?

also how do they work in asm? and can someone teach me that? also is smile good? I heard it's awesome but I don't want a virus help?

Bloodsonic

2009-06-02 08:23:03 pm

how do i open rom
what is rom

interdpth

2009-06-02 08:24:42 pm

hay i know that much at least, you have to google super metroid rom, but the rom is illegal, i dumped my own sm rom, my big brother taught me how, now if only someone could answer my question

fizzer|me-is-liam

2009-06-02 08:26:55 pm

YAY TEXT

i think someone hacked my rom with smile my computer keeps turning off by its self how can i make smile fix the rom?

Black Telomeres

2009-06-02 08:37:12 pm

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how do i open rom
what is rom

rom is a thing u put in ur computer to get the game. i dont understand it so well myself, but if u put it on a disk i think it will let u play it. u mite need an adapter 4 ur comp tho i herd theyre prety expensive