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I don't think Root Cave without SJ is even possible inbounds. Someone correct me if I'm wrong there... has anyone done it?
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Baby Sheegoth: 2015-07-03 11:54:54 pm
Quote from Parax:
I don't think Root Cave without SJ is even possible inbounds. Someone correct me if I'm wrong there... has anyone done it?

I'm unsure, but i could see it being possible pretty feasibly... I know miles has done it out of bounds
Pwootage claimed to have done it with save states, but im not sure of that.
Does getting into the secret world to do root cave require anything other than morph, missiles, and bombs?
Persistence, hatred of life
I believe it to be honest Justin.

And you mean the Tallon Canyon secret world in 21%? no.
Without SJ I think the only real option is Tallon Canyon (or maybe Frigate Crash Site if you're stupid). Not a fun wallcrawl because the SW entrance is a bitch and Root Cave is not a fun room to wallcrawl (it's really tall which means you have a long way to fall and IIRC the door transition to get in is pretty annoying).
The door transition is near impossible without SJ but doable
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Interslice: 2015-07-04 12:04:55 am
I mainly need an idea of stuff that would be "why" mode only.  other than root cave.
escaping gravity chamber nsj no gravity
wallcrawling across phendrana no SJ no beams with light show to use IS to to get the item where artifact of spirit is
west furnace access why
is it possible to get charge beam from the tree in the main plaza?
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Odylg: 2015-07-21 05:50:49 pm
I run this here hotel of an evening
My first ever randomization
Seed: 1534412354
Excluded pickups: 5 19 28 63
Chozo - Main Plaza (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Main Plaza (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Tree) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Main Plaza (Locked door) - Energy Tank - Thermal Visor
Chozo - Ruined Fountain - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Shrine ("Beetle battle") - Morph Ball - Morph Ball
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Half-pipe) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Ruined Shrine (Lower tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Wave Beam
Chozo - Vault - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Training Chamber - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Nursery - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Chozo - Training Chamber Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Magma Pool - Power Bomb Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Tower of Light - Wavebuster - Wavebuster
Chozo - Tower Chamber - Artifact of Lifegiver - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Missile wall) - Missile Expansion - Artifact of Spirit
Chozo - Ruined Gallery (Morph tunnel) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Transport Access North - Energy Tank - Artifact of Strength
Chozo - Gathering Hall - Missile Expansion - Plasma Beam
Chozo - Hive Totem - Missile Launcher - Missile Launcher
Chozo - Sunchamber (Flaahgra) - Varia Suit - Ice Spreader
Chozo - Sunchamber (Ghosts) - Artifact of Wild - Artifact of Nature
Chozo - Watery Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Watery Hall (Scan puzzle) - Charge Beam - Energy Tank
Chozo - Watery Hall (Underwater) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Chozo - Dynamo (Lower) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Dynamo (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Burn Dome (Missile) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Burn Dome (I. Drone) - Bombs - Bombs
Chozo - Furnace (Spider tracks) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Furnace (Inside Furnace) - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Hall of the Elders - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Crossway - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Chozo - Elder Chamber - Artifact of World - Grapple Beam
Chozo - Antechamber - Ice Beam - Artifact of Newborn
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Spider Ball
Phendrana - Phendrana Shorelines (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Chozo Ice Temple - Artifact of Sun - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Ice Ruins West - Power Bomb Expansion - Artifact of Sun
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Behind ice) - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Ice Ruins East (Spider track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Chapel of the Elders - Wave Beam - Artifact of Wild
Phendrana - Ruined Courtyard - Energy Tank - Ice Beam
Phendrana - Phendrana Canyon - Boost Ball - Super Missile
Phendrana - Quarantine Cave - Spider Ball - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Research Lab Hydra - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Quarantine Monitor - Missile Expansion - Charge Beam
Phendrana - Observatory - Super Missile - Artifact of Chozo
Phendrana - Transport Access - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Phendrana - Control Tower - Artifact of Elder - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Research Core - Thermal Visor - Power Bombs
Phendrana - Frost Cave - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Tank) - Energy Tank - Boost Ball
Phendrana - Research Lab Aether (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Underwater) - Gravity Suit - Missile Expansion
Phendrana - Gravity Chamber (Grapple ledge) - Missile Expansion - Gravity Suit
Phendrana - Storage Cave - Artifact of Spirit - Artifact of Warrior
Phendrana - Security Cave - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Landing Site - Missile Expansion - Energy Tank
Tallon - Alcove - Space Jump Boots - Energy Tank
Tallon - Frigate Crash Site - Missile Expansion - Power Bomb Expansion
Tallon - Overgrown Cavern - Missile Expansion - X-Ray Visor
Tallon - Root Cave - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Artifact Temple - Artifact of Truth - Artifact of Truth
Tallon - Transport Tunnel B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Arbor Chamber - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Cargo Freight Lift to Deck Gamma - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Biohazard Containment - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Tallon - Hydro Access Tunnel - Energy Tank - Energy Tank
Tallon - Great Tree Chamber - Missile Expansion - Phazon Suit
Tallon - Life Grove Tunnel - Missile Expansion - Space Jump Boots
Tallon - Life Grove (Start) - X-Ray Visor - Power Bomb Expansion
Tallon - Life Grove (Underwater spinner) - Artifact of Chozo - Missile Expansion
Mines - Main Quarry - Missile Expansion - Flamethrower
Mines - Security Access A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Storage Depot B - Grapple Beam - Artifact of World
Mines - Storage Depot A - Flamethrower - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Research (Phazon Elite) - Artifact of Warrior - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Research (Laser) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Elite Control Access - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Ventilation Shaft - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Mines - Phazon Processing Center - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Processing Center Access - Energy Tank - Artifact of Lifegiver
Mines - Elite Quarters - Phazon Suit - Power Bomb Expansion
Mines - Central Dynamo - Power Bombs - Missile Expansion
Mines - Metroid Quarantine B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Metroid Quarantine A - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Fungal Hall B - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Mines - Phazon Mining Tunnel - Artifact of Newborn - Missile Expansion
Mines - Fungal Hall Access - Missile Expansion - Varia Suit
Magmoor - Lava Lake - Artifact of Nature - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Triclops Pit - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Storage Cavern - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Transport Tunnel A - Energy Tank - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Warrior Shrine - Artifact of Strength - Energy Tank
Magmoor - Shore Tunnel - Ice Spreader - Artifact of Elder
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Morph track) - Missile Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Fiery Shores (Warrior Shrine tunnel) - Power Bomb Expansion - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Plasma Processing - Plasma Beam - Missile Expansion
Magmoor - Magmoor Workstation - Energy Tank - Energy Tank


EDIT: Damn. Wave is in Workstation. Is there a way to get it or am I screwed again?
hah, looks like a pretty lucky first seed. Nope, you're screwed, you can't get Wave out of Workstation.

Also why did you exclude Artifact of Truth? Are you using the current version of the randomizer?
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ZobmieRules: 2015-07-21 07:23:38 pm
ZobmieRules: 2015-07-21 07:21:23 pm
Hmm... I just received an error while using GCRebuilder. "Multiple FST image? Please mail me info about this image". How should I handle this? I was attempting to access the ISO for the .pak files.
I run this here hotel of an evening
Wasnt able to do it manually, had gcr issues so i'm using the script from page... Now i cant find it. Version 0.5-2. I left the exclusions default.

I had the FST issue as well, I think it was a bad ISO. I replaced it with a clean copy and it stopped the FST issue. When I would try to save however, I'd get an error. Something like "cannot read past end" or something like that. Then I got the script and it all worked fine.

What is the current version?
The current version of GCR? The version I'm using is titled "v1.0".
I run this here hotel of an evening
I meant current randomizer version. I have 1.0 of gcr as well, but I'm using whatever came with the script.
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ZobmieRules: 2015-07-21 08:23:18 pm
ZobmieRules: 2015-07-21 08:23:01 pm
Ahh, sorry. I just downloaded version 2.0 of the randomizer. Why does that matter, though? I haven't been able to use the randomizer because I haven't got the .pak files yet. This is my first attempt at using it.
I run this here hotel of an evening
The version question was directed at Parax.

I couldn't get it to work dumping the ISO myself. Once I got past the FST thing I found I couldn't rebuild. Using the script to dump, extract, randomize, and rebuild works just fine however
Ok, new build of seed generator:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nya8e61f8114q00/SeedGeneratorV0.5.exe?dl=0

New Features:
-VETERAN DIFFICULTY ADDED
-A functioning menu
-Remembers location of Prime_Randomizer.exe and root folder now, you only have to enter them the first time
-Backup and restore pak files (protects the randomizer from mangling your pak files if you quit in the middle of the randomizing process)
-Help function tells you more about an option.

If anybody finds any bugs in the program or you get any seemingly incompletable seeds, please let me know.

Easy mode will be added very shortly (I doubt anyone here cares about it).  Hypermode and Why mode will be added sometime in the future.
I run this here hotel of an evening
Why mode. I like the sound of that
Just got an impossible seed on Veteran...
Quote from Baby Sheegoth:
Just got an impossible seed on Veteran...


Post the seed and the exceptions please.