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Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
It's always worth practicing the wall-jump, I reckon.  IBJ often works instead, especially in this game, where it's so fast, but in places where you have rippers (or whatever) flying back and forth, it's much easier to delay a wall-jump than starting to mess around with IBJing.
Plus, if you're epic (or lucky) you can freeze the suckas while maintaining the wall jump.
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samthedigital: 2011-03-21 08:57:12 pm
29:30 Tourian right before MB (100%)
10:16 Kraid right before fighting Kraid (100%)
16:49 Tourian first save (any%)

The first run I was working on before, and I was doing it as practice for an any% run. It's the one I got 54:xx with on 100%. The second one was a fluke really. I had a bad first segment (not compared to the first run, but compared to my standards at the time), and my time at the first Kraid save that I use was not very good, so I skipped it, but I ended up with that. I am sure if I could play like I did before I could get 10:0x here or without saving prior to that point if I play superb perhaps 9:5x before fighting Kraid, but maybe I am stretching it. The third run is my current any% run I am working on saving whenever I don't do *too* badly, but I am much rustier than I was and am letting a lot pass by, so perhaps I can match spidey's runs eventually =D.
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Tyjet66: 2011-03-31 11:24:25 am
What'd you say?
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1:13
47%

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52:05
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49:03
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48:41
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46:30
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44:38
28%

Perfect Tourain run.


It's been a year and 5 months since my last attempt at a speedrun. Back then, I was practicing but suddenly stopped. I have noticed I am capable at more speed tricks and I'm better at wall jumping (still have to kill the acid worn -.-); although, my boss killing abilities really suffered.

At my final save in Chozodia I was at 40:~~, I killed Mecha-Ridley and escaped in a decent time. When the credits started, I took a shot in the dark and guessed "46:23". I guessed it correctly!

It's quite refreshing to see that my skills haven't suffered to much.

46:23
23%
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samthedigital: 2011-04-08 09:02:39 am
samthedigital: 2011-04-06 06:44:56 am
samthedigital: 2011-04-06 06:36:53 am
33:41 29% single segment

I am so rusty after the first 4 minutes or so...

*edit 1*

29:55 any% (25% Kraid first)

Honestly this run was not done well at all. I think I lost 40 seconds because I used very unnecessary saves.

*edit 2*

I am now adjusting to the GBP. I will be posting most of my sub 53:30 100% Normal segments onto youtube eventually if anyone wants to see that. I won't be posting the first segment though because that's not done, and I am not redoing it since this is more of a test run before I send a sub 53 run to SDA.
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samthedigital: 2011-04-13 03:39:06 pm
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samthedigital: 2011-04-13 12:19:12 pm


Alright, hopefully I can get this to do a double post. I want to double post so that someone actually sees that this is a new post and will hopefully draw some attention rather than seeing old posts and not bothering with the topic.

That Super Missile isn't actually all that hard to get, but I am also not sure whether it is actually faster to do on the current strategy. I think I estimated that getting it takes 10 seconds. I get to Tourian personally at 15:29 at best without getting the Super Missile expansion, and 15:40 or so at best getting the expansion. This is done with my 13:19 save right before fighting Kraid. Perhaps I can shave that off to 15:39 getting the expansion, but it doesn't matter that much anyway. It takes 3 or 4 seconds I suppose to get the other expansion in Chozodia, so at best you are losing 6 seconds by getting the expansion. That means that it has to be 7-9 seconds faster to take out the Zebitites and kill Mother Brain in one go rather than going back to refill. I am not sure if it is though. Is there anyone else with some input?

*** I solved this problem thanks to dragonfang's help.
Bravo!  You make that trick look really easy.  I'll definitely work on that the next time I do any%.  I'm doing 100% at the moment, though, and I prefer not to work on multiple types of runs at once since I worry that I'll get confused and go the wrong way.

If you're going for the 100% segmented record, then I guess I'll proceed as planned and try to do a good 100% single segment.  It'd be nice to get 53:xx for the SS, although my current segmented run makes me wonder if I should aim for lower.  In any case, I still need a bit more segmented 100% practice before trying a SS.

Do I understand correctly that you're not uploading the first segment of your test run because it wasn't recorded?
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samthedigital: 2011-04-14 09:39:07 pm
samthedigital: 2011-04-14 08:30:45 pm
Well, now I need to find a DVD recorder.

29:45. I think I lost a minute on the Chozo fight alone. I am saved at 16:54 in Tourian, but I should be able to do better than that, and hopefully I get sub 29 soon.
29:36 20 seconds on the Chozo fight and 40 seconds on the escape lost -_-.
That 16:54 equates to about 16:45 with the old route, right?  So about 30 seconds behind the 27:40.  I guess mid-28:xx should be easily possible, barring any enormous mistakes (which is easier said than done, unfortunately).

I got 53:53 on that 100% segmented run, with 20-30 seconds of enormous mistakes in the last segment.  So mid-53:xx should be possible with this save file, and 52:xx should be relatively easy also, seeing as this run was a rush job.  I kinda wonder though what "xx" would be in that 52:xx.
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samthedigital: 2011-04-15 12:18:59 am
samthedigital: 2011-04-15 12:13:35 am
"That 16:54 equates to about 16:45 with the old route, right?  So about 30 seconds behind the 27:40"

It does, yeah. Roughly though, I think it's more like 7 seconds. It could have been more, but I did get an extra missile earlier which made me lose some time too.

29:13 I am so close...

"So mid-53:xx should be possible with this save file, and 52:xx should be relatively easy also, seeing as this run was a rush job.  I kinda wonder though what "xx" would be in that 52:xx."

Perhaps 51:xx is possible if the Long Beam is obtained later in an optimized run?
In my experience, the later parts of any% are significantly more stressful than 100%.  Maybe it's because you're not ridiculously overpowered like in 100%.
Let's see.....I think you thought 17:10 was roughly optimal before screw attack?  If I stretch the numbers a bit, then perhaps 22:45 is possible before Ridley, then 27:55 or so before Mother Brain, 38:15 after power bombs, and 52:15 as a final time.  Then delaying the long beam saves 15-20 seconds (I think), so maybe 51:xx is doable.  I do feel like this is a bit of a stretch though.
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samthedigital: 2011-04-16 01:28:47 pm
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samthedigital: 2011-04-15 12:34:49 am
I think that for 100% 17:09 is really near the best time possible. It could be a second faster, but I really doubt it. 17:09 is really hard as it is. I don't even think it would be feasible to skip any saves either because of the sheer amount of luck it takes for segment 2 and Kraid in general. When I try for the record I am going to get annoyed fast by a lot of segments because I want to perfect them though.

On another note, sub 52 would just be cool. It would be an amazing accomplishment compared to the current SDA record and in general too because I don't think sub 51 will ever be done.

28:59 26% Normal =)

I'll try for sub transience soon with a save that I used earlier...

05:34 in Norfair
13:19 before fighting Kraid
16:54 Before MB
22:30 before the Chozo Boss
28:59

Looking at that I should probably go for 16:4x before fighting MB. It should make beating transience easier along with skipping the last save...

30:53 any% SS... I was on par with transience's 28:50 until I messed up vs. MB which cost me a minute, and I lost another clear 40 seconds because I messed up the escape spark.
29:47 any% SS I was 10 seconds ahead of transience's 28:50 again until the end of Tourian where I lost 20 seconds, but it's not that big of a deal since it's ss... I did lose like 40 seconds because I messed up a walljump near the last save in Suitless and had to spend 30 seconds walking back, and I didn't do the escape spark that well, but at least this time I pulled it off...







I found a way to reliably do the Acid Worm Skip. It should work all of the time.
Congrats on sub-29.  And wow.....I never would have thought to use pause abuse on the acid worm skip.  The AW skip was my single largest frustration in my any% SS runs; that should help tremendously.  (A problem I had while doing those SS runs was that I'd get nervous after doing the skip successfully, since I almost always messed it up.)

In other news, I wanted to make sure my DVD recorder was still set up correctly, so I recorded the last segment of a 100% run I was working on.  The segment was decent overall, but my Mecha Ridley fight and escape were so good that I decided to upload those parts to youtube.  I escaped with 4:05.39 remaining.  (Oh yeah, and my ending time was 53:42.)

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samthedigital: 2011-04-23 12:45:55 am
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samthedigital: 2011-04-17 01:04:21 pm
That was insane.

I am doing my last test any% run for Ridley first. I have 8:49 at Ridley currently. I was saved at 5:33 in Norfair. I hope I can find a dvd recorder soon though.

edit: 13:05 saved at Kraid. I should be able to do 6 seconds better which should put me on almost even footing so far with spidey's 27:40.

I got 13:02 in Kraid which will net high 16:2x at the end of Tourian. This is just a little slower than Spidey's 27:40 right now, maybe 5-7 seconds behind given I have 40/6 at the end of Tourian. I could get 12:58 before Kraid but I am not going to bother for the best time possible this run since I haven't been doing so in the first place.

05:33 (05:34) in Norfair
08:49 before fighting Ridley
13:02 (13:19) before fighting Kraid
15:18 in Tourian
16:38 (16:54) Before MB
(22:30 before the Chozo Boss)
(28:59)

This time I have 40/6 before Mother Brain instead of 50/4, so I should have a bigger advantage for the endgame than I did last time. I also didn't bother with a high 16:2x because it takes time that I don't want to spend really this time around.

28:39 23% Normal... I didn't do the ending that well yet, but still, I finally beat transiense. =D
I had a horrible chozo boss fight (10 seconds of delay versus what I think would be optimal...), but I am happy with this run.

Splendid!  I look forward to seeing recorded runs from you.  I also look forward to trying the route with 40/6 eventually; it actually makes sub-27 seem possible (maybe).

Speaking of recorded runs, I've recorded a couple of 100% SS runs recently.  I've done 54:29 and 53:56 so far, but the 53:56 isn't good enough to submit as it had some nasty errors.  Some small mistakes here and there are fine, but I want to submit a run with as few large errors as possible, and ideally zero (although that might not be a realistic goal).
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samthedigital: 2011-04-27 08:45:23 am
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samthedigital: 2011-04-23 07:34:12 am
I just finished a 29:36 26% single segment run. The beginning was the best I've ever done yet (5:29 passing through the save in Norfair). Early Ridley was choppy, I missed the acid worm skip on my first try, I had to refill because of bad luck, Tourian had bad refills, but most of Chozodia was really good... I was surprised. The suit boss had a fast variation except for the fact that I missed one shot, and I missed the escape spark on the first try. Still though, it seems I am getting better at being consistent in general.

edit: I had forgotten, I had another run that would have gotten a bit better probably right before I finished that one had I finished it by maybe 10-20 seconds because while it was sloppier overall there weren't any major mistakes, but I tried something risky against the black pirates and died for it.

29:27 any% single segment

Everything pre Tourian was fine. I lost 25 seconds in Tourian and 15 seconds in Chozodia, but it was sort of unavoidable really. If I want to beat the record I think I will have to just try to get lucky in Tourian.

29:13 any% single segment

This time I lost 10 seconds vs. MB and ~15 seconds on the escape spark. Before Ridley wasn't amazing either, but still, this is quite good so far I think.

31:19 any% (26%) single segment on the GBP (this is my first time really playing on the GBP)...

This run was awful. I was at the Ridley save at 9:15 because I lost 20 seconds in Brinstar and some amount of time in Norfair, but my Ridley was quite flawless. Then I did alright getting 17:21 at the end of Tourian, but I think I lost 40 seconds or so versus the Zebitites and Mother Brain. The suit boss also didn't agree with me and I lost at least 20 seconds there. Another 20 seconds were lost against the last boss because I whiffed a super missile, and then I lost 40 seconds more on the escape spark because it took 3 tries to get it. I think the only highlight of the run was getting the Brinstar Super Missile on the first try after I forgot a Missile Tank. I lost more time too obviously, but it's hard to tell sometimes because I don't know if I am playing at the same sort of level I would on the GBA.
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Holy cow... That's the fastest I've ever seen the escape done before, and it is definitely awesome. Never have been able to pull off that speed booster trick and I doubt I will anytime soon, but I also never knew about that shortcut in the 5th room of the escape (the tall one after the "bridge" room) where you can skip past some of the shafts and save a good 5+ seconds. Good to know for the future.

Speaking of which, after playing some of the Super Zero Mission hack over the last few days I decided to play through Zero Mission itself. Went for a Hard Mode 100% run, two things I rarely combine whenever I play but felt like this time.

02:23:26 was the final time, which isn't my best record since I've had the full image gallery unlocked for years now, but I don't have a lot of my earlier runs written down so I have no idea how I did. Still, for not playing ZM in a while, it being ages since I've played hard mode or done a 100% run for this game, and the fact that I had to look up a few items in the end because of all of the factors that contributed to my skill level for this run, I'd say it went quite well all things considered.
Getting on the elevator leaving Kraid; my average time around 14:25. The bomb jumps in brinstar are adding most the time (each jumps taking one or two attempts). Kraid himself needs to be faster. That said Brinstar and Kraid are easily my fastest so far, them being what I've practices the most. Norfair getting faster but beyond that I haven't studied much more. I will though. Practice, practice, practice I suppose. In the near future I hope to be running in league with you guys. 

Yo Spidey! The escape's sick as shit!
Ugh. Finally got a decent time in Norfair 1 and I know I can still do better. ;(

5:36

Would've been better if I had a better Hive room and didn't miss a few wall jumps and didn't get hit by a few missiles and few unlucky missed jumps. <_< Don't know how much lower I should try to push this. I'm really getting better at pre-Hive room, but still only had 1:51 leaving it. :/
What's your goal time?  If you want sub-30, then 5:36 is easily on track.  As a reference, I was saved there at 5:32 in a 28:11 run I did a few years ago.
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samthedigital: 2011-05-03 05:02:10 am
What did you have at the first save in Tourian? I have 15:15 with 40/6 on this run. Hopefully I can get sub 28 with that.

... I just had a 1:13 Tourian run (saved at 16:28 at the end of Tourian), but I have 40/1. What a heartbreaking ending.
What a pity; 1:13 is quite fast.  If memory serves, I got through them in 1:10 in the 27:40, which is really the equivalent of 1:15 if you're saved at the beginning of Tourian.

In the 28:11, I had 15:21 at the beginning of Tourian and 16:41 before Mother Brain.  My last segment could've been faster.  Your 15:15 should definitely be good enough for sub-28.
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samthedigital: 2011-05-07 02:19:07 pm
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samthedigital: 2011-05-06 11:58:18 am


This is my 29:24 single segment run. It's not a world record, but I think it's a pretty good watch. Thomaz uploaded it to youtube, so thanks to him for that.

I have recorded 3 segments in a Kraid first run. I want to get sub 28:50 with it. I'll probably have it up on youtube tomorrow.

My times are 3:55 at the start of Kraid, 5:11 before fighting Kraid, and then I save at 15:49 at the start of Tourian. I also get the high jump, so that's why it looks worse than the run actually is. I think I lost ~15 seconds in the first two segments by using bad saves, and maybe 7 seconds in the third segment, but I go a long time without saving. If I was going for a world record I would have kept 2 seconds worth of mistakes, so 5 more seconds isn't a big deal, and it's not as bad as the first two. I only kept the first two segments because getting a lot better is frustrating, and when I started the run I couldn't HBJ as effectively as I used to.

Edit: Yeah, I don't care about that run anymore. I just got 3:43 at the start of Kraid which is a 12 second improvement, and it was probably the segment of my life. There were a few mistakes, but the run was amazing anyway.