Mogenar ***Corruption spoilers***

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Metakraid: 2008-01-22 08:28:56 pm

2008-01-21 08:07:23 pm

I've about had it with this guy, I don't even want to try anymore... and trying to kill this pr!ck is giving me arthritis. Any cheap ways to finish this jerk quickly ?! Evil or Very Mad

I did notice that the ice missiles seemed to be doing something, anyone know what?

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Mr. Aran

2008-01-21 10:48:47 pm

everybody knows it's true

red bubbles don't like phazon.

UchihaSasuke

2008-01-21 10:52:06 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

also, don't waste your time with missiles.

btw, concentrate on 1 orb at a time.

Metakraid

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Metakraid: 2008-01-21 11:34:43 pm

2008-01-21 10:53:46 pm

there isn't any way to change the difficulty setting, after you've started a file is there?

also, I read this on the metroid wiki about the ice missiles. since he moves around so much and it's hard to hit with hyper mode blasts, this may be worth doing:

"Humorously you can freeze his face solid by firing an ice missile while he is doing his Mouth based Phazon Beam attack, or any other time he opens his mouth for that matter he just keeps his mouth open the longest when doing this attack, all his orbs will be open to attack while he tries to bite his way out of the ice."

MASTER-88

2008-01-22 06:55:49 am

Speedrunner

There is video. You can see how skilful he is:

Yeah first time i have as well little trouble beat Mogenar. Hyper mode fight is really annoying took me 22 minutes in game time. Couple days ago i started normal low-%. Mogenar was easy/short fight here even 1 ET max. This fight requires much patient first time. You can watch Paraxade low-% hyper mode video. This definitely help you beat this fight.

Toozin

2008-01-22 12:36:05 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Well, as long as this topic is here...

My hypermode run stopped cold at Mogenar. This guy is just a huge prick. I'm pretty sure I can blast his balls off with enough patience, but what I'm confused about is where, how, and when do you get health? I mean, I tend to just run around with my charge beam on, and every once in a while my health goes up. I know you can get a little by blasting some of his projectiles, but some of his other attacks seem to create health without my interferance.

Fano7

2008-01-22 03:24:14 pm

Every Bit Counts

my low% hyper run is stopped at Pirate Homeworld when you need to stop the defences. I think. If not, it's a little after that.

Mr. Shadow

(user is banned)

2008-01-22 03:47:12 pm

OH ****!!!!

Quote from PiccoloCube:

also, don't waste your time with missiles.

btw, concentrate on 1 orb at a time.

Missles damage is far to slow for my liking, i'm a patient guy don't get me wrong. This boss to me is all about being patient.

Quote from Metakraid:

there isn't any way to change the difficulty setting, after you've started a file is there?

also, I read this on the metroid wiki about the ice missiles. since he moves around so much and it's hard to hit with hyper mode blasts, this may be worth doing:

"Humorously you can freeze his face solid by firing an ice missile while he is doing his Mouth based Phazon Beam attack, or any other time he opens his mouth for that matter he just keeps his mouth open the longest when doing this attack, all his orbs will be open to attack while he tries to bite his way out of the ice."

Hmmm i'll have to look into this, the best part i can think of is freezing it when he laughs which is almost always when he changes his orb positions so this should please me.:D

[quote="PiccoloCube"]
also, don't waste your time with missiles.

btw, concentrate on 1 orb at a time.
[/quote]

Missles damage is far to slow for my liking, i'm a patient guy don't get me wrong. This boss to me is all about being patient.

[quote="Metakraid"]
there isn't any way to change the difficulty setting, after you've started a file is there?

also, I read this on the metroid wiki about the ice missiles.  since he moves around so much and it's hard to hit with hyper mode blasts, this may be worth doing:

"Humorously you can freeze his face solid by firing an ice missile while he is doing his Mouth based Phazon Beam attack, or any other time he opens his mouth for that matter he just keeps his mouth open the longest when doing this attack, all his orbs will be open to attack while he tries to bite his way out of the ice."
[/quote]

Hmmm i'll have to look into this, the best part i can think of is freezing it when he laughs which is almost always when he changes his orb positions so this should please me.:D

Ntsc

2008-01-22 04:04:32 pm

Quote from Toozin:

Well, as long as this topic is here...

My hypermode run stopped cold at Mogenar. This guy is just a huge prick. I'm pretty sure I can blast his balls off with enough patience, but what I'm confused about is where, how, and when do you get health? I mean, I tend to just run around with my charge beam on, and every once in a while my health goes up. I know you can get a little by blasting some of his projectiles, but some of his other attacks seem to create health without my interferance.

Yeah this guy halted my Hypermode run for a long time. Seriously it sucks to spam the A button for 10 minutes straight and yeah you can ONLY use A attacks. Missles won't hit him. Retro seriously should have rethought the hypermode version of this fight.

Anyway whenever you destroy his feet he drops some medium health thingies. I think he also drops health thingies when you kill all of the spheres.

Metakraid

2008-01-22 08:28:25 pm

Quote from Mr. Shadow:

Quote from Metakraid:

"Humorously you can freeze his face solid by firing an ice missile while he is doing his Mouth based Phazon Beam attack, or any other time he opens his mouth for that matter he just keeps his mouth open the longest when doing this attack, all his orbs will be open to attack while he tries to bite his way out of the ice."

Hmmm i'll have to look into this, the best part i can think of is freezing it when he laughs which is almost always when he changes his orb positions so this should please me.:D

The one place I think having him frozen for a few moments would help is when youre trying to hit the glowing white socket with your phazon hypermode blasts. he moves around so much, you often waste an entire energy tank and only get in one or two hits. Where as you don't need your missiles at all, and I have max 70 missiles. Well, luckily your ship is parked right next to him, so you can experiment without a long trek back every time you die..

[quote="Mr. Shadow"]

[quote="Metakraid"]
"Humorously you can freeze his face solid by firing an ice missile while he is doing his Mouth based Phazon Beam attack, or any other time he opens his mouth for that matter he just keeps his mouth open the longest when doing this attack, all his orbs will be open to attack while he tries to bite his way out of the ice."
[/quote]

Hmmm i'll have to look into this, the best part i can think of is freezing it when he laughs which is almost always when he changes his orb positions so this should please me.:D
[/quote]

The one place I think having him frozen for a few moments would help is when youre trying to hit the glowing white socket with your phazon hypermode blasts.  he moves around so much, you often waste an entire energy tank and only get in one or two hits.  Where as you don't need your missiles at all, and I have max 70 missiles.  Well, luckily your ship is parked right next to him, so you can experiment without a long trek back every time you die..

UchihaSasuke

2008-01-22 10:15:10 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

hm lots of people giving up on hypermode.

was it a speed run or just a run to beat the game on hyper once?

the most annoying things in hypermode are the last bosses. even mogenar is preferable next to them.

also, you get health when you shoot at the green blasts he throws at you. good luck getting him to attack you with that.

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Missles damage is far to slow for my liking, i'm a patient guy don't get me wrong. This boss to me is all about being patient.

wut?
that's precisely why i said to not bother with missiles. also, your sentences are confusing....

Mr. Shadow

(user is banned)

2008-01-23 06:03:55 am

OH ****!!!!

Quote from Metakraid:

Well, luckily your ship is parked right next to him.

I'd love to just command my ship to bust in the room and give me some freaking air suport. laugh new

Quote from PiccoloCube:

1. hm lots of people giving up on hypermode.

2. was it a speed run or just a run to beat the game on hyper once?

3. the most annoying things in hypermode are the last bosses. even mogenar is preferable next to them.

4. also, you get health when you shoot at the green blasts he throws at you. good luck getting him to attack you with that.

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Missles damage is far to slow for my liking, i'm a patient guy don't get me wrong. This boss to me is all about being patient.

5. wut?
that's precisely why i said to not bother with missiles. also, your sentences are confusing....

1. I didn't say that. :P.
2. I'm just trying to do hyper mode once everyone else is doing speedruns i'm guessing.
3. Omega ridley was a bit diffcult for me on veteren, i can't imagen how fustrated i'll be on hypermode.>_<
4. He uses thoses quite freqently from what i see, could be wrong/
5. I know that i just posted it anyway regardless, and ja my sentences can be counfusing bare with me. Please. :(

[quote="Metakraid"]Well, luckily your ship is parked right next to him.[/quote]

I'd love to just command my ship to bust in the room and give me some freaking air suport. :laugh:

[quote="PiccoloCube"]
1. hm lots of people giving up on hypermode.

2. was it a speed run or just a run to beat the game on hyper once?

3. the most annoying things in hypermode are the last bosses. even mogenar is preferable next to them.

4. also, you get health when you shoot at the green blasts he throws at you. good luck getting him to attack you with that.

[quote]Missles damage is far to slow for my liking, i'm a patient guy don't get me wrong. This boss to me is all about being patient. [/quote]
5. wut?
that's precisely why i said to not bother with missiles. also, your sentences are confusing....
[/quote]
1. I didn't say that. :P.
2. I'm just trying to do hyper mode once everyone else is doing speedruns i'm guessing.
3. Omega ridley was a bit diffcult for me on veteren, i can't imagen how fustrated i'll be on hypermode.>_<
4. He uses thoses quite freqently from what i see, could be wrong/
5. I know that i just posted it anyway regardless, and ja my sentences can be counfusing bare with me. Please. :(

Ntsc

2008-01-23 01:56:10 pm

Quote from PiccoloCube:

hm lots of people giving up on hypermode.
was it a speed run or just a run to beat the game on hyper once?
the most annoying things in hypermode are the last bosses. even mogenar is preferable next to them.
also, you get health when you shoot at the green blasts he throws at you. good luck getting him to attack you with that.

Just to beat it on hyper mode. I don't remember how many etanks I had though.

My problem with mogenar is how annoying it is to mash the a button and hope to hit the correct sphere enough to destroy one. I mean the encounter itself isn't extremely hard like the final boss, it is just plain annoying due to the 10 minutes of smashing a I have to do.

Dark Phoenix

2008-01-23 08:51:31 pm

plasma beam v.2.0

Quote from Mr. Shadow:

Quote from Metakraid:

Well, luckily your ship is parked right next to him.

I'd love to just command my ship to bust in the room and give me some freaking air suport. laugh new

do you even have ship missles yet?

Toozin

2008-01-23 10:46:51 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

Wait, you can destroy the orbs with uncharged attacks? I thought the final hit had to be charged. No wonder I suck.

*facepalms*

Glitch

2008-01-23 11:52:32 pm

Even though he is a pain, you gotta admit, its a fun battle, except the part where he wins, which happens often

SkippyJr

2008-01-24 12:46:45 am

Here's a little trick: When he laughs, shoot a missile into his FACE. It stuns him and leaves his orbs vulnerable.

Mr. Shadow

(user is banned)

2008-01-24 05:40:46 am

OH ****!!!!

Quote from Dark Phoenix:

Quote from Mr. Shadow:

Quote from Metakraid:

Well, luckily your ship is parked right next to him.

I'd love to just command my ship to bust in the room and give me some freaking air suport. laugh new

do you even have ship missles yet?

Yes.....i'm currently destroying the generator in bryyo fire. Why do you ask? :-s

Quote from SkippyJr:

Here's a little trick: When he laughs, shoot a missile into his FACE. It stuns him and leaves his orbs vulnerable.

You know we just said that right?

Metakraid

2008-01-24 10:45:43 am

Quote from Mr. Shadow:

Quote from SkippyJr:

Here's a little trick: When he laughs, shoot a missile into his FACE. It stuns him and leaves his orbs vulnerable.

You know we just said that right?

Knowing you should shoot the missiles when he laughs is something no one had mentioned yet. It makes using missiles much more effective when you know when to shoot them. thanks!

Ntsc

2008-01-24 02:35:17 pm

Quote from Metakraid:

Quote from SkippyJr:

Here's a little trick: When he laughs, shoot a missile into his FACE. It stuns him and leaves his orbs vulnerable.

Knowing you should shoot the missiles when he laughs is something no one had mentioned yet. It makes using missiles much more effective when you know when to shoot them. thanks!

Yep that will help me a lot. Thanks.

I think the missles in this game are underused. Wouldn't have been so bad if they put in a Charge beam combo to burn up at least 5 Missles but really I think the main reason I didn't use the missles is because how often they were reflected/missed. They don't lock on nearly as well as they did in prime1/2.

Dark Phoenix

2008-01-24 05:08:40 pm

plasma beam v.2.0

Quote from Mr. Shadow:

Quote from Dark Phoenix:

Quote from Mr. Shadow:

Quote from Metakraid:

Well, luckily your ship is parked right next to him.

I'd love to just command my ship to bust in the room and give me some freaking air suport. laugh new

do you even have ship missles yet?

uh, yeah. i forgot...
but theres always the stay-hyper-till-you-get-energy way. sorta outlined in the vid. but it works where you dont drop out of hyper until you have picked up energy. you also dont shoot off the warning meter.

Yes.....i'm currently destroying the generator in bryyo fire. Why do you ask? :-s

Quote from SkippyJr:

Here's a little trick: When he laughs, shoot a missile into his FACE. It stuns him and leaves his orbs vulnerable.

You know we just said that right?

Metakraid

2008-01-24 06:07:52 pm

wow, that's quite the pointless post...

arkarian

2008-01-24 09:14:54 pm

red chamber dream

And yours was even worse. I'm ashamed of both of you, but more so you than him.

Metakraid

2008-01-24 11:50:44 pm

Aww yeah, I finally beat ol' mogenar, nice to have that one out of the way!! grin new

Mr. Shadow

(user is banned)

2008-01-25 05:55:12 am

OH ****!!!!

Quote from Metakraid:

Aww yeah, I finally beat ol' mogenar, nice to have that one out of the way!! grin new

(groans)I'm doing that tommorow, hopefully he's not as hard as i fear. extra_smug