Max% WaveBeamLess

2011-11-11 10:04:06 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Feel the need to make this thread

I'm at 70% right now, I just got the missile in Frost Cave (took over an hour >_>)

71% is the for sure best, but I think 80 is within reach

here are the Items left over

TALLON OVERWORLD: (1)
Biohazard Containment missile

CHOZO RUINS: (6)
WaveBuster
Life Giver
Training Chamber Missile
Main Plaza Missile (in the tree)
Ruined Fountain Missile
Furnace Missile (not hard I just forgot it :P)

MAGMOOR CAVERNS: (0)

PHENDRANA DRIFTS: (12)
Phendrana shorelins Missile (in the tower thing beside the ice temple)
Elder
Research Lab Hydra Missile
Quaratine Monitor missile
Spider Ball
Super missiles
Research Lab Ather Missile
Research Lab Ather Energy Tank
Thermal Visor
Gravity Suit
Spirit
Security Cave Power Bomb Exp

PHAZON MINES:
I really dont know what I've missed here, but I know theres a lot >_>

Yeah so this is happening

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arkarian

2011-11-11 10:07:42 pm

red chamber dream

you can get wavebuster, but i don't think anyone's discovered a way to leave sun tower once you have it. so i'd recommend getting it last.

Hazel

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Hazel: 2011-11-11 10:12:11 pm

2011-11-11 10:10:21 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Oh I can get a lot of things, I would like to save after getting them tho

Nisco

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Nisco: 2011-11-12 07:11:14 am

Nisco: 2011-11-12 07:11:06 am

2011-11-12 06:41:27 am

I tried this a little while back.. as far as mines go there were 9 expansions I didn't pick up (1 attainable), with your request to be able to reach a save point again.

Metroid Quarantine B (needed super missiles)
Metroid Quarantine A (although it is possible, with the dash back to the door to Elevator B)

Everything in Upper Mines, as I couldn't pass from Elite Control to Elite Control Access, there doesn't seem to be a loading point for that room.

So that also leaves

Elite Control Access (Missile)
Elite Research x2 (Missile and Warrior)
Storage Depot A (Flamethrower)
Security Access A (Missile)
Main Quarry (Missile)
Storage Depot B (Grapple)

I count that as 8% in mines that I couldn't get.

So the max% accounted for so far is 73%

Hazel

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Hazel: 2011-11-12 12:24:10 pm

Hazel: 2011-11-12 11:46:46 am

2011-11-12 11:41:46 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

I got to Phendranas Edge, so with IS both Spirit and Security Cave Power Bomb Exp can be collected, but I don't have grapple, so leaving is impossible as far as I know...

Edit Has anyone ever wall crawled with IS? once you unmorph you cant use your beams, but switching rooms, should still work...

Edit again: I'm sreaming... http://www.ustream.tv/channel/itsPersonnal

T3

2011-11-12 03:44:56 pm

i know you can get the main plaza missile with floaty jump and also probably the one in ruined fountain (though it would be very difficult). the phendrana shorelines one can be gotten from a secret world. also, iirc it's possible to leave phendrana's edge by ghetto jumping onto the glider (though also very difficult).

Hazel

2011-11-12 04:26:33 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

you need to help me out next time I stream ^_^

Nisco

2011-11-13 06:34:44 am

Quote from T3:

also, iirc it's possible to leave phendrana's edge by ghetto jumping onto the glider (though also very difficult).

Do you recall where you ghetto to make this jump? I only remember method where you need to grapple the glider and and SJ onto the wall before jumping onto the top of the glider.

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Has anyone ever wall crawled with IS? once you unmorph you cant use your beams, but switching rooms, should still work...

I am sure it can be done, but wallcrawling blind does not sound practical.. especially across multiple rooms. If you could manage to travel as morph ball most of the way then maybe, but whenever I unmorph it just messes up all my graphics.

Hazel

2011-11-13 02:16:16 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Quote from Nisco:

but whenever I unmorph it just messes up all my graphics.

exactly, the game still plays fine, you just can't see what your doing, just think about it with general knowledge of where the ather is, you can float (ather jumping would be almost impossible), once you hit the skywalk use your map to walk above the door and then morph and drop onto it, jump around a little and just watch the map in the top right/left (I forget where the map is lol) you could switch rooms like that, this would be difficult but no where near impossible.

Nisco

2011-11-14 06:26:45 pm

did you get the missile in gravity chamber (phendrana), if so how?

Hazel

2011-11-14 07:07:06 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

no. but I have an Idea, that should work....

tate

2011-11-15 09:39:09 am

In theory you could wallcrawl to the super missile and use the secret world in the super missile room to wallcrawl back out. That will open up the ability to get the main plaza missile expansion.

Hazel

2011-11-15 10:43:20 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

I know that, but I can never get the SW near the super missile to work, I am also not 100% sure if you can wall crawl there...

Nisco

2011-11-28 03:50:59 pm

I've had trouble attempting to wallcrawl to the super missile.

I couldn't pass through from Research Core Access to Research Lab Aether, because I wasn't able to negotiate the sideways door. I also couldn't get Specimen Storage to load from Ruined Courtyard.

Quote from T3:

the phendrana shorelines one can be gotten from a secret world.

How is this done? It's easy to get right up to it but I can't touch it like the one in Main Plaza..

Hazel

2011-11-28 10:46:42 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Yeah that's one missile I still can't seem to get, T3 little help please?

T3

2011-11-29 03:53:47 pm

strange, when trying to replicate it i seem to not be getting close enough to the missile. it was a while ago when i did this so i'm not exacly sure how i managed it. i might have just ceiling warped above it but i guess that wouldn't be particularly useful in this situation.

couldn't you just grab it using IS?

Hazel

2011-11-29 04:01:29 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Quote from T3:

couldn't you just grab it using IS?

maybe, if you get super missiles and scan the thing, but no you cant get it with IS normally

Nisco

2011-11-30 09:11:10 am

Regarding getting to Supers/Elder, using the SW in Ruined Courtyard I managed to get to Research Entrance without wave beam today. I loaded Hydra Lab Entryway but as of yet haven't managed to transition into that room, as there is an invisible wall over the door. This was also the case to get into Specimen Storage, but I managed that so I am sure it is possible.. just awkward.

Hazel

2011-11-30 10:42:26 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

sorry I don't know the room names :P:P

I was able to get the thermal, but I don't think you can leave

Nisco

2011-11-30 11:30:03 am

I was talking about approaching from the other direction to you.

Check this map to see what I meant; http://metroid.retropixel.net/mprime/metroidprime_map_phendrana.jpg

I have tried going from the other way before too, and couldn't get to Supers because of the sideways door in the room after thermal.

Hazel

2011-11-30 12:32:41 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

I see what you mean, I will test later and maybe even stream it, but right now TASing sonic A2B :P

Nisco

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Nisco: 2011-11-30 05:05:59 pm

2011-11-30 05:05:32 pm

cool. if you stream I'll check it out if I am still up. (I am in UK, should still be up for a couple hours.)

Hazel

2011-11-30 05:10:01 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

we have had a storm all day and the power keeps going out, I doubt I'll be streaming today >_>

Nisco

2011-12-03 12:42:35 pm

I have just managed to wallcrawl into research lab hydra. I am now faced with the horizontal door to observatory access, and am wondering where the loading zone is.. If this one door can be passed then I think it will be clean sailing to Supers, and hopefully Elder.

Hazel

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Hazel: 2011-12-03 12:53:00 pm

2011-12-03 12:47:09 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

do you have something to record with? I'd like to see what you did to get there :O

Edit, I'll stream now I guess http://www.ustream.tv/channel/itsPersonnal I still need to wall crawl past thardus >_> so this could be a while, anyway, someone tell me if my quality is watchable, I dont know if it is or not....