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Qlex
2006-02-06 05:40:18 pm
Hmmm... It makes me want to redo Super Metroid as a speedrun...





DUUUH! I DIED! >>>>>.<<<<<

Edit: Finally! 1:00 35%, I made some improvised way, like doing mockball in order to get the ice beam, although I had the speed booster... and I think I didn't even need the ice beam :?
Oh well it was not pretty to watch, but I was satisfied enough with my Ridley fight, worst were Kraid (4 rounds) and Phantoon (countless rounds, considering I had damn problems with my controller so I couldn't shoot him, I was like "Damn it shoot! shoot Samus! He's gonna close his eye aaaarrgh!"*crash my controller against the keyboard which is not very helpful*). I also used the grapplekillDraygon and the zebetites' glitch.
Jaytality
2006-02-09 12:18:03 pm
Improved my pure speed time to :44 with 27%.

Same route as always, except I used power bombs instead of a shinespark to get through the room with the pillars that's before Ridley (that shinespark is very tricky to charge).

The first segment for me is always :07 because I never try to do the wall jump/morph trick when traveling back from the chozo fight.  My second segment usually ends up at :20.  My major problem is the third segment.  I ended up with :36 at the ship save.  I'll need to spend more time practicing in Maridia and Norfair, and I have the boss fights down for the most part, it's just a matter of connecting it all.
silent (((((echo)))))
2006-02-12 05:00:33 am
Improved my final boss battle, time is now 0:57
DeathNoble
2006-02-14 10:51:13 am


Improved my time.  Yay me.  This imge image is also clearer than the last.
Raccoon Sam
2006-02-14 11:43:13 am

I'm proud of ma'self.
Qlex
2006-02-14 01:15:26 pm
For no apparent reason I saw that coming :| ...
I personnaly trust Deathnoble, but your pic is cut. How did it happen?
Anyway, 1:32 looks fine. About my side I'm currently trying a no-sequance break run (get in the rooms in the order meant by the creators), but well these times I'm obsessed with perfection, so I think I'll try making the run for a long time.
Edit : Oh you cut it more, and I saw what you meant... sorry -_-
DeathNoble
2006-02-14 03:40:40 pm
He did it through the reset glitch.  As performing the glitch will allow you to pick up all the items over again, you can get a percent total well above one hundred.  Well above two hundred if you perform the glitch multiple times.

Heh.  High item total runs should get into sda.  You have six hours to collect the items as many times over to increase your percentage as high as it can go.  Red Scarlet could probably do something insane, like 700%.

And for those of you wondering where I got six hours, it's the average amount of time you can put on a blank VHS tape.
Qlex
2006-02-14 04:41:58 pm
Oh, I see. I heard about it, although I didn't know it was written on the final score screen. Sorry Raccoon Sam if I didn't trust the score, it just looked... not real.
About the highest score, I wouldn't be surprised if Scarlet would have done 700% in less than even 5 hours, cause there are items easy to grab, but well... the run would be the same after the use of reset glitch every 20-30 mins.
Raccoon Sam
2006-02-15 11:14:21 am
Yeah. No problem. I just catched it straight off from emu, so Its quality is high.

And yeah, If someone goes over 999, I doubt that there won't be  1000. More likely,  A00.  Then A01, A02, etc.. (Hex Code).
If the Letters A-F are even installed to the font of the ending screen..

And yea. 700 % Run would be possible. But It'd require an extremely bored mind, Ya know, Who'd want to do the same dang thing over and over again?! I mean, I used savestates and continued after a few days. And it took me ages.
silent (((((echo)))))
2006-02-24 04:04:57 pm
0:49

There is a heavy mistake just before gravity suit, I had to kill ennemies for nearly a whole minute in order to collect energy.

And Kraid isn't killed quickly with the 4 super missiles method :?
MASTER-88
2006-02-26 08:17:41 am
Speedrunner
Im play my first test run this game. My time is really suck 1.14 Embarassed  Ok this not really speedrun because im make lot mistake in the game.

1= im not pickup early super missile.
2= im missing about 5-time hard jumping kraid lair/eastbrinstar without hi-jump boots.
3=im forget wave beam. Im collect wavebeam later.
4=Very hard dash jump over water pits before Wrecked ship causing lot problem with me. Im losing maybe 1-2 minutes important time. 
5=im forgot power Bomb refill. Im losing about 1-2minutes.
6=all boss battles looking horrible my test run.
7=im use save point most time and make lot horrible mistake

Maybe next week im try beat really speedrun. Im try beat game about 50 minutes.

Im play Europa Pal versio.
Possible versio difference:
1=You need longer corridor speedbooster dash thats you can,t make superjump. This make lot part more harder.
2=doors open slower.

Question Im not speak good english.
Chanoire
2006-02-26 03:21:28 pm
That's interesting, I hadn't heard of needing more distance for speedboosting in the PAL version.  Does the quick charge work differently?

Mostly I've gotten the impression the PAL version is faster and/or easier because of being able to escape the Bomb Torizo's room before the door closes and shuts you in, not needing a mockball to get early Super Missiles, and jumping higher (?).  I'm not sure about the last one; maybe that's only in the situation of jumping out of water (for PB #66).
Kejardon
2006-02-26 05:10:07 pm
Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder
There are a very few areas where PAL is harder, but generally it's easier.
You need less space to charge a super jump in PAL, I don't think Master-88 is using quickcharge.
*Walk* for about 3 blocks, then hold the run button. You will reach full speed quicker this way.

According to the code, doors take the same number of frames to open: 18. In NTSC, this is 0.30 seconds, in PAL this is 0.36 seconds. So yeah, there's a very small difference.
MASTER-88
2006-02-26 06:08:58 pm
Speedrunner
Im watching Smokey,s run. Smokey use most impossible trick. He jump fast speed booster super jump over water pits before Wrecked ship. Im say you need longer corridor with Pal versio. Im use regular dashjump with Pal versio and this trick is harder. 

Doors open slower and screw attack skip is harder with pal-versio. I don,t cant use speedbooster because Im take hit the door and it stop my dash. Im need use all 5 Power pombs cracked pillars because speed boost super jump is impossible makes this place. My strategies is harder and slower.

EDIT: Yes im try someday this quick charge trick and next time im try pickup early super missile.
Shoryuken
2006-03-02 12:52:36 pm
1:35 100%
MASTER-88
2006-03-05 06:38:33 pm
Speedrunner
:D My time is now 1.01. This is 13 minutes faster when my previous time.

pros
1=im get early super missile
2=im use wave beam strategy phantoon battle
3=im use Smokey,s wr route

cons
1=im don,t use mother brain barrier trick
2=im don,t use quick charge trick (maybe impossible europa versio)
3=im don,t use fast super missile strategy with Kraid battle.
4=im missing couple speedtrick
5=im use save point many times

I know this is not good time but someday im try improve this run.
Dr. Trence
2006-03-05 09:03:33 pm
47:06 Any%  (39%)  ss

7:51 100%  (first time i got 100% on SM)

42:12 Low 14% ss

I improved my any% run by 4 minutes, so my older time was 51:xx

I also improved my low% 3 times. My first one was 1:03

sucky, but i did my best (i hope)
silent (((((echo)))))
2006-03-06 07:59:30 am
Quote:
47:06 Any% (39%) ss


Is "06" the seconds of your time? Because...SM timer doesn't give you the seconds when you finish the game, only MZM gives you the seconds of your time. Unless of course...It is 47 hours and not 47mins Shocked  which I doubt very much, and you would have broken a WR, the maximum time one can play a video game without stopping Laughing

Quote:
42:12 Low 14% ss


Not only it's a VERY VERY VERY ipressive and fast time, but it's also done in SS Shocked  Shocked  Shocked

Big congrats if you really did it without saving/dying because I think that it's a WR.
XtraX
2006-03-06 12:18:44 pm
Did a 0:51 SS any& run yesterday(?),done on console. I thought it was pretty good. There was a pretty stupid mistake after Botwoon(sp?). I decided to grab the E-Tank after him(I actually used Smokeys SS any% route) ,but I missed the mid-air-morph to get it and turned around in mid-air.Just stupid that turning while falling into the quicksand will make you sink in there....
Other mistakes were refilling a bit too much before Ridley and the Zebetite/Mother brain room. I can't do the Zebetite glitch,so I had to refill one time to kill the remaing two/Mother Brain. Stupid that I ran out of Missiles at Mother Brain,too,so I had to refill again. I didn't use the Murder beam,because I forgot about it... For some reason,the one of the escape shinesparks didn't work...

The best part about the run was playing through the game without getting killed(...) and Space boosting through one of these first rooms in Lower Norfair without really practicing it before(that one near the green gate). There were many other good parts(like doing the Kraid Quick kill) and I wish I wouldn't have done the mistake afte Botwoon (and would be able to do the stupid Zebetite glitch).

Percentage was 31%,iirc. I think it was a good decision to get all the items though.

I might try to improve it sometime.
Shoryuken
2006-03-06 12:29:44 pm
Quote from MASTER-88:
:D My time is now 1.01. This is 13 minutes faster when my previous time.

pros
1=im get early super missile
2=im use wave beam strategy phantoon battle
3=im use Smokey,s wr route

cons
1=im don,t use mother brain barrier trick
2=im don,t use quick charge trick (maybe impossible europa versio)
3=im don,t use fast super missile strategy with Kraid battle.
4=im missing couple speedtrick
5=im use save point many times

I know this is not good time but someday im try improve this run.


100%?
MASTER-88
2006-03-06 12:32:58 pm
Speedrunner
Quote from Shoryuken:
Quote from MASTER-88:
:D My time is now 1.01. This is 13 minutes faster when my previous time.

pros
1=im get early super missile
2=im use wave beam strategy phantoon battle
3=im use Smokey,s wr route

cons
1=im don,t use mother brain barrier trick
2=im don,t use quick charge trick (maybe impossible europa versio)
3=im don,t use fast super missile strategy with Kraid battle.
4=im missing couple speedtrick
5=im use save point many times

I know this is not good time but someday im try improve this run.


100%?


No 100%. My time is any-% run Embarassed  Heh this not good time it is 6-minutes slower when Red scarlet wr 100% run.
Dr. Trence
2006-03-06 06:50:13 pm
Quote from silent (((((echo))))):
Quote:
47:06 Any% (39%) ss


Is "06" the seconds of your time? Because...SM timer doesn't give you the seconds when you finish the game, only MZM gives you the seconds of your time. Unless of course...It is 47 hours and not 47mins Shocked  which I doubt very much, and you would have broken a WR, the maximum time one can play a video game without stopping Laughing

Quote:
42:12 Low 14% ss


Not only it's a VERY VERY VERY ipressive and fast time, but it's also done in SS Shocked  Shocked  Shocked

Big congrats if you really did it without saving/dying because I think that it's a WR.


i forgot to mention i did this on emulator  Embarassed i used the "TAS", and other...ones... which i found on bisquit and other places. I did my low% run, and any% with TAS and my other..one.. and did my 100% one without TAS. sorry if i confused you with the timer thing
Shoryuken
2006-03-07 12:33:22 pm
I'm starting another speed run, except I'm implementing a lot of new tricks (more mockballs & sparks, spike jumping, murder beam etc.)  Red Scarlet already has 6 mins on me and I haven't even gone into the wrecked ship yet!  She was at 12 mins at this save point: I'm at 18 :(
nate
2006-03-07 12:39:47 pm
to be fair, though, there is only one red scarlet.
Andrew Mills
2006-03-07 03:50:30 pm
Strategy Guide Writer
Just out of curiosity, are there any PAL records for SM around? If not, is the 17.5% speed difference (which was around in abundance in the SNES days) still there? It's just that I plan on recording a run (100%) anyways, so might have a shot at setting a good PAL WR at the same time.