21% Topic

2009-10-10 06:00:17 pm

Oh. Does anyone HAVE the gth video? :P
Also, the IBJ with floaty jump video I have is different because IBJ with floaty jump gives you infinite time to pause.

tate

2009-10-10 11:01:15 pm

I believe nate still has it on his system somewhere. probably just need to ask nicely cause it was there back when me and craztad looked through his collection.

Baby Sheegoth

2009-10-10 11:03:49 pm

Well if/when/however you get it, send it to me or if you can upload it to the collection. Also, try to record Artifact of Wild without SJ please ;)

creXALBO

2009-10-29 12:14:38 am

Part-time philosopher

Hi everyone! I'm kinda new here... don't know much about sequence breaking, so please excuse my ignorance :) Just a heads-up, when referring to Metroid Prime, I will ALWAYS be talking about the North American (not Player's Choice) version of the game.

I have a question... I respect all your hard work and research into clearing the game without the Space Jump Boots, but I was wondering... Would a 21% game also be possible by skipping the X-ray Visor? Or do you need the Visor to damage the Omega Pirate? I was reading on another topic, called something like "Infinite Possibilities," where you can use a special glitch with a door and the Morph/Boost Ball to gain the ability to mess around with the cutscenes... I think someone might have used it to skip the Omega Pirate battle. So if you can't damage the Omega Pirate without the X-ray visor, can you skip the fight all together and still get the Phazon Suit without the X-ray Visor? And if you can somehow skip the X-ray Visor, then if you skip the Space Jump Boots... do you have a 20% game?!

Hi everyone! I'm kinda new here... don't know much about sequence breaking, so please excuse my ignorance :)  Just a heads-up, when referring to Metroid Prime, I will ALWAYS be talking about the North American (not Player's Choice) version of the game.

I have a question...  I respect all your hard work and research into clearing the game without the Space Jump Boots, but I was wondering...  Would a 21% game also be possible by skipping the X-ray Visor?  Or do you need the Visor to damage the Omega Pirate?  I was reading on another topic, called something like "Infinite Possibilities," where you can use a special glitch with a door and the Morph/Boost Ball to gain the ability to mess around with the cutscenes...  I think someone might have used it to skip the Omega Pirate battle.  So if you can't damage the Omega Pirate without the X-ray visor, can you skip the fight all together and still get the Phazon Suit without the X-ray Visor?  And if you can somehow skip the X-ray Visor, then if you skip the Space Jump Boots...  do you have a [b][i]20%[/i][/b] game?!

tomatobob

2009-10-29 01:26:13 am

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Quote from Nuju:

Or do you need the Visor to damage the Omega Pirate?

You do.

creXALBO

2009-10-29 10:58:01 am

Part-time philosopher

Aw man!

I'm going to look into that "Infinite Possibilities" topic, see if I can use that glitch. Hopefully... it just might work :) I'll post something if I turn anything up.

Baby Sheegoth

2009-10-29 03:09:31 pm

You need boost ball to do IS which would just make for an easier 22% game.

creXALBO

2009-10-30 03:05:52 pm

Part-time philosopher

So it's basically pointless... Getting the Boost Ball for a chance at skipping the X-ray Visor.

I shouldn't have even said anything. I tried skipping the Spider Ball and I'm stuck at the Furnace :( Hopefully, someday I'll get better.

Baby Sheegoth

2009-10-30 03:10:13 pm

Furnace is easy. Push your face into the left side of the track and jump.

UchihaSasuke

2009-10-30 03:16:11 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

look for the correct angle if you have trouble. there's an angle where samus will climb the track by walking. that's how i get past furnace regularly.

creXALBO

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creXALBO: 2010-01-10 07:46:50 pm

2009-10-30 04:58:21 pm

Part-time philosopher

Quote from Baby Sheegoth:

Furnace is easy. Push your face into the left side of the track and jump.

Oh... okay. I'm gonna try the rest of the run again. I kinda... messed up :) Thanks, everyone!

EDIT: Has everything for a 21% game been figured out already? :(

arkarian

2010-01-11 01:51:49 am

red chamber dream

main thing to do when glitching up spider tracks is to *not* hold l. just push against the left side, rotating the stick a little bit at a time until you find the right angle.

Baby Sheegoth

2010-01-26 01:41:24 pm

Everything for a 21% game has been figured out. Nobody's anywhere near close to doing it though.

arkarian

2010-01-26 02:04:47 pm

red chamber dream

yep, i've heard that from a few people. i've yet to see any vids proving it though.

Baby Sheegoth

2010-02-01 03:17:39 am

Quote from arkarian:

yep, i've heard that from a few people. i've yet to see any vids proving it though.

*glares at nate*

nate

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nate: 2010-02-01 03:46:44 am

2010-02-01 03:45:27 am

what? you never finished sending me stuff iirc. if i'm supposed to do something then you should probably let me know that.

edit:
this is the last i can find from you:

Quote from nate:

Quote from Baby Sheegoth:

Save for encoding the videos and you coding the pages, you can say the 21% section is done. I don't know what the deal with GTH's video is, but it will be solved soon enough, and we should probably gear up anyways.

sweet.

Paltheos

2010-02-01 04:42:24 am

Plasma was solved? The last thing I remember is sparky hitting a bump in Magmoor Workstation, trying to enter a secret world by bomb jumping off a frozen Aerotrooper and not quite making it.

Incidentally, if anyone has the whole route down somewhere, I'd love to hear it. Space Jump is so ingrained in my mind as a given item that I wouldn't know where to start figuring it out.

Baby Sheegoth

2010-02-05 09:34:37 pm

Quote from nate:

what? you never finished sending me stuff iirc. if i'm supposed to do something then you should probably let me know that.

edit:
this is the last i can find from you:

Quote from nate:

Quote from Baby Sheegoth:

Save for encoding the videos and you coding the pages, you can say the 21% section is done. I don't know what the deal with GTH's video is, but it will be solved soon enough, and we should probably gear up anyways.

sweet.

Everything is there... you just have to encode. I do not posses anrichan so you'll have to do that.... but everything's there.

petrie911

2010-02-05 09:57:33 pm

So, I've been trying out 21% on Dolphin, mostly to show that all these tricks can, in fact, be strung together into a run. Don't expect me to post a TAS or something since Dolphin's recording abilities are rather poor at the moment, but the savestates work well enough. Which is good, since that's pretty much the only way I'd ever pull this off.

Anyways, I'm currently coming back from the Power Bombs (after which I'm going to go for Plasma...), and I'm stuck in Vent Shaft. So far, the best I've managed is to get samus's knees level with the edge on unmorph. So, any tips?

arkarian

2010-02-05 09:58:06 pm

red chamber dream

so you're testing on an emulator to prove it's possible on console?

Baby Sheegoth

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Baby Sheegoth: 2010-02-05 10:45:17 pm

2010-02-05 10:44:17 pm

Quote from petrie911:

So, I've been trying out 21% on Dolphin, mostly to show that all these tricks can, in fact, be strung together into a run. Don't expect me to post a TAS or something since Dolphin's recording abilities are rather poor at the moment, but the savestates work well enough. Which is good, since that's pretty much the only way I'd ever pull this off.

Anyways, I'm currently coming back from the Power Bombs (after which I'm going to go for Plasma...), and I'm stuck in Vent Shaft. So far, the best I've managed is to get samus's knees level with the edge on unmorph. So, any tips?

Emulate this

Take that timing and program it into dolphin? Easy solution

petrie911

2010-02-06 12:44:14 am

Quote from arkarian:

so you're testing on an emulator to prove it's possible on console?

I'm testing it on an emulator to prove it's possible at all. Dolphin's rerecording abilities are currently non-functional, but one day they will be, and it's always good to know a 21% TAS is doable before you actually start it. Also, anything that's possible on an emulator is possible on console. Significantly harder? Often yes, but possible nonetheless.

Also, thanks for the video. Unfortunately, it's not quite as easy as just programming the timing in, but it gives a better idea of what I'm doing wrong.

Baby Sheegoth

2010-02-06 09:24:57 am

Quote from petrie911:

Also, thanks for the video. Unfortunately, it's not quite as easy as just programming the timing in, but it gives a better idea of what I'm doing wrong.

Basically, you have to put the first bomb a bit higher that it's usually put, and place the next one directly above it so they're spaced perfectly (like OO) and then place the next ones at a very even interval (very early in the ascent) after that. I've done it a couple times, and each time it looked EXACTLY the same, so there's probably not much room for error.

T3

2010-02-06 04:15:19 pm

Also, don't forget that the unmorph has to be timed perfectly. You can perform a perfect bomb jump but if you unmorph too early or too late you won't make it.

nate

2010-02-06 11:32:40 pm

Quote from Baby Sheegoth:

Everything is there

where?