The "I need help" Topic

i still dont know what to do in a 7% i have dark suit light beam and dark beam on one file im in torvus and on my other im in agon and i cant seem to get anywhere in ether on the torvus one im trying for PB but im having a really hard time getting to lower torvus and in my agon one i cant get anywhere in sanctuary but i think theres a SW in 2nd room in sanctuary but i forget how to get into it

Hazel

2011-03-28 07:30:30 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

'i need help' with the hydrodynamo station (morph) SW

im going where the video i saw shows but i cant seem to get into it

playe

2011-04-21 08:13:25 pm

Alright I need some help getting into SW 122 (I believe the room is Torvus Transport Access.)

I only know what I saw from Miles' 14% demonstration run. (part 10 I believe.)

I can get the BSJ onto the Hive just fine but when I attempt to go backwards after I dash I always seem to hit the Terminal Fall Trigger. (even when it looks like I hit the Aether.)

Paltheos

2011-05-01 08:35:10 pm

Quote from itsPersonnal:

'i need help' with the hydrodynamo station (morph) SW

im going where the video i saw shows but i cant seem to get into it

This question's over a month old, but here's some help anyway, if you haven't already moved on.

I assume you're talking about SW 120, Save Station B. If you're having that much trouble finding the exact spot, put your monitor by your TV, if you can, and compare the images until you find the perfect spot.

I'm afraid that's all I can offer you. Most of my morph SW experience is with 116.

Hazel

2011-05-02 08:10:25 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Quote from Paltheos:

Quote from itsPersonnal:

'i need help' with the hydrodynamo station (morph) SW

im going where the video i saw shows but i cant seem to get into it

This question's over a month old, but here's some help anyway, if you haven't already moved on.

I assume you're talking about SW 120, Save Station B. If you're having that much trouble finding the exact spot, put your monitor by your TV, if you can, and compare the images until you find the perfect spot.

I'm afraid that's all I can offer you. Most of my morph SW experience is with 116.

thanks anyway i still havent got it but i gave up about a month ago, maybe i'll try again tho

Nisco

2011-08-24 11:24:10 am

Hi, does anyone know if it possible to wallcrawl from upper torvus to lower?

All I really need to do is bypass the super missile door between torvus temple and 'underground transport'; but I'm having trouble getting torvus temple to unload without actually triggering the elevator in underground transport, or even managing to clip into the room whilst it is in SW state.

any help is appreciated, thanks

Hazel

2011-08-24 12:14:37 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

you can in dark world, but I've never been able to without the game crashing in light world

Nisco

2011-08-24 01:55:44 pm

yeah, that's the same problem I have been having. to dump the previous room it seems you need to actually trigger the elevator, I simply can't find an area to dump it otherwise. hopefully someone can shine some light on this.

I have also been playing around with getting into sanctuary early from Agon, and I can get as far as the power bomb tunnel in hall of combat mastery; where the (you guessed it) power bomb tunnel has me stumped. I've tried to find secret worlds in the three rooms up to it, with no real success, but have a few thoughts:

In the elevator room, there is strange collision if you stand on the ledge above the door and try to jump up and over the object in the centre of the room, you can hover in the air- maybe if you could lodge the morph ball there you could IBJ out?

In the room with the Quad mb it once hit me into the spherical thing in the middle of the room, where I was stuck for a while.. but I have been unable to replicate this here or in other areas.

In hall of combat mastery, has anyone been able to find anything here; I wonder how high the barrier to the portal room goes, or if anything else is known.. especially with the sloped edges around the sides.

These are all just general musings really, but I would love to know people's thoughts. these rooms have probably been gone over a lot; I have researched this as much as I can, but I'm hoping a few people may have a few things stored in their heads too!

thanks

yeah, that's the same problem I have been having. to dump the previous room it seems you need to actually trigger the elevator, I simply can't find an area to dump it otherwise. hopefully someone can shine some light on this.

I have also been playing around with getting into sanctuary early from Agon, and I can get as far as the power bomb tunnel in hall of combat mastery; where the (you guessed it) power bomb tunnel has me stumped.  I've tried to find secret worlds in the three rooms up to it, with no real success, but have a few thoughts:

In the elevator room, there is strange collision if you stand on the ledge above the door and try to jump up and over the object in the centre of the room, you can hover in the air- maybe if you could lodge the morph ball there you could IBJ out?

In the room with the Quad mb it once hit me into the spherical thing in the middle of the room, where I was stuck for a while.. but I have been unable to replicate this here or in other areas.

In hall of combat mastery, has anyone been able to find anything here; I wonder how high the barrier to the portal room goes, or if anything else is known.. especially with the sloped edges around the sides.

These are all just general musings really, but I would love to know people's thoughts. these rooms have probably been gone over a lot; I have researched this as much as I can, but I'm hoping a few people may have a few things stored in their heads too!

thanks

Hazel

2011-08-24 02:14:19 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

theres a SW in the room beside the one with the (glass?) PB tunnel, BUT its a dick to get into if you dont have much health becasue you need one of the little quadraxis guys to hit you out of bounds

sorry I dont know the room names or the SW number...

Nisco

2011-08-24 02:19:55 pm

ah that's exciting, I thought that might be the case. any idea where you need to be in the room to get that to happen?

MilesSMB

2011-08-24 02:23:25 pm

...That SW is between Minigyro Chamber and HoCM, not between HoCM and Agon Transport Access.

Nisco

2011-08-24 02:38:09 pm

That would be where the quad hits you into the door frame, right? which is impossible in this room due to the tubes to the door..

I got hit into the central object in this room, that would seem to suggest they can hit you through other walls too perhaps..? this is possibly too unreliable. jumping off its floating head seems to hit an invisible ceiling in the gap up the centre of the room too.. but I could be wrong. has anyone else tried that with more success?

By the way Miles, I have seen a lot of your videos, they are very impressive- I admire your desire (and persistence) for perfection in every run I have seen you do. I watched live the 5.55 attempt at segment 3 in your current mp2 run; I don't think I breathed from when you cleared grand abyss.. I wish you all the best with nailing that soon.

TheOthin

2011-08-28 04:09:14 am

Is it possible to wallcrawl from Collapsed Tunnel to Temple Assembly Site without crashing the game? I've had the game crash three times attempting it. At first, I assumed the problem was that I was leaving Industrial Site secretized, so I tried waiting a while away from the door back to Industrial Site, but that didn't seem to help. The third attempt, Temple Assembly Site actually appeared and I moved into it, but the game crashed about a second later anyway. Am I missing something basic here?

MilesSMB

2011-08-28 04:20:30 am

As long as you turn Industrial Site invisible it should never crash... At least it never does when I do that, and always crashes when I don't close the door. :\

TheOthin

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2011-08-28 04:37:50 am

I didn't check the first two times, but it was definitely invisible the third time. Regarding the third time, is that ever known to happen, with the game seeming to load a room, even moving the map to that room, but then crashing right afterward?

I suppose I'll just keep trying. I'll record it in case it happens again, unless that seems unnecessary.

Edit: Crashed the fourth time, too, and again after displaying Temple Assembly Site, although I didn't move the map properly so it disappeared a moment later; the game crashed right after it disappeared. Just got through on the fifth attempt, though.

Edit2: Fifth attempt was able to reach the Power Bomb Expansion, but crashed going back into Collapsed Tunnel. I think that door hates me. Sixth attempt, somehow managed to fall into Dynamo Chamber while collecting the Power Bomb Expansion, with the map still on Temple Assembly Site. Decided to keep it rather than resetting to get the wallcrawl back to Agon, so whatever was going on, I'm past it.

I didn't check the first two times, but it was definitely invisible the third time. Regarding the third time, is that ever known to happen, with the game seeming to load a room, even moving the map to that room, but then crashing right afterward?

I suppose I'll just keep trying. I'll record it in case it happens again, unless that seems unnecessary.

Edit: Crashed the fourth time, too, and again after displaying Temple Assembly Site, although I didn't move the map properly so it disappeared a moment later; the game crashed right after it disappeared. Just got through on the fifth attempt, though.

Edit2: Fifth attempt was able to reach the Power Bomb Expansion, but crashed going back into Collapsed Tunnel. I think that door hates me. Sixth attempt, somehow managed to fall into Dynamo Chamber while collecting the Power Bomb Expansion, with the map still on Temple Assembly Site. Decided to keep it rather than resetting to get the wallcrawl back to Agon, so whatever was going on, I'm past it.

Lurker 29

2011-09-01 08:59:40 pm

What's the fastest route, without using secret worlds, that I can take to get (fake) 100% if I skipped losing my items? (after 4 months of trying and 20 minutes later)

Also, how can I grab the missile from the Dark Missile Trooper later on without triggering the loss of items?

MilesSMB

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MilesSMB: 2011-09-01 09:01:58 pm

2011-09-01 09:01:47 pm

Quote from Lurker 29:

What's the fastest route, without using secret worlds, that I can take to get (fake) 100% if I skipped losing my items? (after 4 months of trying and 20 minutes later)

Well, you kind of have to use SWs to skip the item loss in the first place...

>_> <_<

Seriously though, no idea, I've never cared about fake 100%.

Quote:

Also, how can I grab the missile from the Dark Missile Trooper later on without triggering the loss of items?

Do ILS again.

Lurker 29

2011-09-03 01:57:58 pm

I see. Ok, thanks.

Just one more question. How do I get out of the secret world if the elevator post has already been scanned (after using it the first time to get out)?