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Who do people always give me a link to something that I've read before/ tell me something I already know. And I'm a good wallcrawler, it wouldn't take me an hour.
I run this here hotel of an evening
Quote from Razorflame:
Quote from Odylg:
that's not what i was missing

You said you couldn't get Crossway door open.
Read next couple of paragraphs on next page for more info then.

Here:
Once you're on the lower roof ok, L-Jump over to the top of the door itself. Now, plesae note you WILL encounter a VERY VERY annoying graphic (a part of the roof) that is sticking in your face and obscuring the screen completely. You can overcome this by moving backwards on the door (making sure that the door itself is on YOUR left. Once the graphic is out of the way, unlock the door with a missile and then grey it out as per normal. Now, we need to secretize Elder's Access as it's not possible to door warp into Crossway (there's strangely a gap before the door)... so to secretize the next room, once the door is grey, do a door dump on that door.
As copied and pasted from samus.co.uk

THAT is the right part I know it is.

wrong again. that's ahead of where i am. well, where i was. i'm at that point now, but that's not what i was talking about

"Make sure you hit the floor of the room with your head and listen to the GC to see if it makes the whirring sound. If not, keep trying. If it HAS made that whirring sound, that's Crossway now secertized!"

that's what i needed. thanks for trying though
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Who do people always give me a link to something that I've read before/ tell me something I already know. And I'm a good wallcrawler, it wouldn't take me an hour.
It would still take you 30 minutes.

And have you ever done a 4VMA?

I haven't, though I am about to attempt it after going through the whole secret world crap to get the ice beam before wave and Flaagra.  Then, I was thinking about making a PBBF after going through the 4VMA, because I would have the wave beam then.

Anyways......
I run this here hotel of an evening
do i have to come out in hall of the elders and do that 3bj to the tunnel, or can i just door warp into the next room instead? i kinda already secretized HOTE.....is there any way to un-secretize it?

EDIT: killing the ghost from the sw sets you in the room, as i just found out. which brings me to this:

*dances wildly for 176 hours straight* I FINALLY DID IBBF!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

and, in addition, i did the 3bj to skip the wave slot thingie in HOTE for the first time as well.

i'm so happy!

list of stuffs to do now
1. pwn flaahgra with ice beam
2. reset, then do 4 tank VMR
3. attempt skipping flaaghra completely
4. dance some more
Nice!  Good job.  I am preparing to do Skipping the Frigate because I completed Plasma Early and Power Bomb Early (Phendrana Edge one) and now I want to go get the Phazon Suit before I get the Gravity Suit to see what happens.

IBBF and 4VMR are next after that.

Yeah!
I run this here hotel of an evening
good luck on both IBBF and 4VMR. i can't seem to get the 4VMR myself yet, but i haven't had much practice. i got almost to the elevator door before dying, that's the farthest i got. i was trying this for a few hours this morning, before i gave up on it. and by give up i mean say "screw this, i'll try it again later" and then played echoes. now i'm sick of echoes
Heh....I don't even own Echoes myself, but I will soon.  As for the IBBF and 4VMR, that will wait until I complete my current SBing game: I screwed up on the Sun Tower without Spider, so I now HAVE to get the spider ball, but I told myself that I would wait to do that until after I had done Geo Core w/o it.  And I did.  So now, I am skipping the frigate, but before that, I have to go get the damn spider ball from Thardus.

I got my first power bomb expansion early in Phendrana's Edge, the hardest of all the early pb's.  While there, I also got Artifact of Spirit, since I was right there and had the Plasma Beam early.

XD

I also am attempting to learn how to wallcrawl.  I don't know how to do it, but I got Flamy's wallcrawling guide with me printed out, so I am good for that.  I also printed out the instructions for IBBF and 4VMR as well.

Later in my SBing career, I will try to get a 3VMR run done,
I run this here hotel of an evening
good luck with any and all sbing, it's really quite fun. i never go through the frigate anymore. ever. i hates it. to tell you the truth, i'm not completely sure when i'm actually supposed to go there.
as for wallcrawling, it takes a lot of patience. my time before starting IBBF was 25 min. after i saved just after getting the ice beam, it was 7hrs and 55 minutes. i did a LOT of floating. screw resetting i say! also, watch out for actually getting stuck, as in where you can't even move by bombs, and can't unmorph. the only plus to this, is if you hold the control stick at a certain angle, the ball wigs out and spins like crazy, which looks cool. i'd rather be wallcrawling, than spinning like that, however
Graah... I can't do Space Jump first. I keep ending up right below where I need to be.

~Ki'rin
I run this here hotel of an evening
which version are you using?
red chamber dream
Cuma, you might want to read this topic, as well, for more help.
Whew......Two straight days of SBing and/or wallcrawling and I failed to get the IBBF as well as the 4VMR.  I just didn't have the patience, plus, I couldn't get into SW17.  But I attempted to get the Artifact of Wild before Flagraa using SW9 and that failed horribly.  Almost made it to the North Atrium going through Eyon Tunnel>Ruined Nursery>Hive Totem> Sun Tower.  Man.....wish I COULD have done that at least.
I have made it to OP in my main SBing game and I was wondering:

Can OP be beaten without the X-Ray Visor?
always move fast
nope.  if you dont turn it on, he cant be damaged.
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nope.  if you dont turn it on, he cant be damaged.

Well that just sucks.  I am all the way down there, and I can't even beat him!!!

That makes me mad!!!  Now I have to go all the way back up to get the X-Ray visor!

So does that mean that the X Ray Visor is one of the items required to beat the game?
always move fast
yup.
I forgot where you get it.  Could you tell me. ;)
always move fast
great tree hall (the place before the main entrance to phazon mines).  climb to the top of the room, and follow the paths.  dont forget to get the artifact over there.
I run this here hotel of an evening
it's in Lifegrove, which is accessed through the Great Tree Hall, the room with the uber evil bars. you "need" spider to get it. that means you can sj to the spider column, and whatnots
Is it that ice door in the upper part of the GTH past the spider tracks?

I also got boost because Geo Core without Boost is  Evil or Very Mad .

I had to get spider because of the Artifact of Wild STUPID ME HAD TO FAIL TO GET IT right after Flagraa, but I recently found out that I could use SW9 to reach it without it.
always move fast
yes.
Ok.  Next question:  Does the Phazon Suit look any different if you got it before you got Gravity?  And what would happen if you got Gravity AFTER you got the Phazon Suit?
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Ok.  Next question:  Does the Phazon Suit look any different if you got it before you got Gravity?


No.

If you get gravity after phason suit, nothing happen: you see the phason suit during all the cutscene.
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Quote from Razorflame:
Ok.  Next question:  Does the Phazon Suit look any different if you got it before you got Gravity?


No.

If you get gravity after phason suit, nothing happen: you see the phason suit during all the cutscene.

Ah......Phazon Suit doesn't count as an item.....so you can get it and complete a 22% run.

How many people have completed a 22% run?
23%?
everybody knows it's true
It sure does
I didn't think it did count as an item seeing as you didn't actually 'acquire' it.  You basically got FORCED into it.