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I run this here hotel of an evening
I'm using the standard controller that came with my cube. it seems to work fine sometimes. Other times i'll go for a scan dash and end up completely scanning it. It's just this game i notice it on but I haven't played many others recently. Other than RE4 which doesn't appear to have the problem. I tried recalibrating with holding L slightly, almost fully holding L without clicking the button, holding it fully with the button click, and without holding L at all. No dice. Didn't really expect it to work though.

Thanks for letting me know about the new controllers sucking and the leftover input you had.
my umbrella goes directly to Bankai
i use one of the new controllers now and it works fine. maybe you got a defective one?
I run this here hotel of an evening
Well ive had it for years and it never gave me any trouble. Unless that wasn't directed at me.

Also, what is this new controller? I hadn't actually heard of them before
He's talking about the new line of smash-branded gamecube controllers
I run this here hotel of an evening
Ah, saw some pictures of those. I kinda just assumed they were really cheap knockoffs.

Mine seems a lot better now. Not sure why though (Also yay! Infinite bombs works properly now! Kinda!)


OK, so I've been meaning to ask this: what's a good, or at least decent, time for an any% natural route run?
Zoid did one. I think he got a 1:3x.
"WHAT!?" -Alucard
I cannot for the life of me load elite control access from oob in elite control. I saw a video showing loading zones but Im playing on console (0-00 version) and am not sure Its possible. Ive touched where it should load EVERYWHERE for a good half hour now.
I've done that in the past, can't remember where it is though I'm afraid. I find it helpful to move through the rooms inbounds and listen for when the consoles  spins the disc/loads the data for the next room - and trying to walk above that point. If above doesn't work, then also bumping my head underneath sometimes does too!
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TheSilverBanjo: I've spent several hours with and without Action Replay/ Moonjump and I couldn't do it either! It would help so much for a "wavebeamless max%"!!!  I don't understand how it's possible that we both haven't got it even once!
It was done in bartendor sparky's 1:01.
Unless I am mistaken he loaded that room jumping on top of the door after opening it with wave?
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TheMG2: 2015-12-06 04:30:43 pm
Oh whoops, I didn't read properly

EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's been done though.
"WHAT!?" -Alucard
I guess Ill get all of my questions out of the way so I dont have to ask things one at a time.

1: Is it possible to get oob in phendranas edge by ghettoing on top of the glider? (I dont have grapple) And if so, vid please?

2: How (if possible) would I go about getting the e-tank in magmoor workstation without wave? (Not just getting stuck forever)

3: Is it possible to get the Missile in Metroid Quarantine B without supers? (Using IS or whatever need be and then using the save room as a way to negate the effects of IS if )

4: Is the e-tank in freight lift to deck gamma (or whatever the name is underwater) acquirable without wave? (And again, without getting stuck forever...)

5: Off topic... What do 0-00 copies usually go for? I have the oppurtunity to pick up two more (One for free and one for maybe 5-10 bucks. Are they worth hoarding? Could I turn a profit? (Now or someday if they become scarce)
Don't think there is much of a separate market for 0-00 copies. I'm pretty sure the market for 0-00 specifically is speedrunners and that's pretty much it. Everybody else would probably either not care what gamecube version or want specifically trilogy for the collectibles like the art book and stuff.
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I cannot for the life of me load elite control access from oob in elite control. I saw a video showing loading zones but Im playing on console (0-00 version) and am not sure Its possible. Ive touched where it should load EVERYWHERE for a good half hour now.

if you've killed the elite pirate then that load trigger has disappeared permanently. otherwise you can activate it by dropping down the wall next to the elite pirate trigger.

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1: Is it possible to get oob in phendranas edge by ghettoing on top of the glider? (I dont have grapple) And if so, vid please?

no, but you could potentially get back oob using the storage cave sw.

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2: How (if possible) would I go about getting the e-tank in magmoor workstation without wave? (Not just getting stuck forever)

i don't think that's possible.

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3: Is it possible to get the Missile in Metroid Quarantine B without supers? (Using IS or whatever need be and then using the save room as a way to negate the effects of IS if )

if it's not obtainable with IS then no.

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4: Is the e-tank in freight lift to deck gamma (or whatever the name is underwater) acquirable without wave? (And again, without getting stuck forever...)

i'm pretty sure yes. you could reach the e-tank by going in through the back assuming there aren't any wave doors along the way (otherwise just wallcrawl there), then exit out the front by getting oob in one of the tunnels.
"WHAT!?" -Alucard
Thank you VERY much T3! So... it sppears I have to redo this run then... I need to get to the top floor of the mines and such because I know how to get grapple and several expansions without wave up there. And also regarding the freight lift e-tank, I know I can get there backwards but the only issue would be the big square doors from what I remember. I don't think they open backwards without power like the regular doors do. Ill check it out once I get there again. Oh man I am NOT looking forward to getting back inbounds in the room with the energy tank after Omega pirate. That was ANNOYING. One final question though for anyone who can answer. Can the scan icon for the barrier in front of the flamethrower door be scanned while oob? If so Flamethrower is possible without wave. Giving another %
"WHAT!?" -Alucard
Well I mean the Icon on thentop floor that lowers the barrier doen below of course. 0____0
"WHAT!?" -Alucard
Got the deck gamma tank! Every door but one opens backwards, I just got oob in the shaft went around it and got back in. So happy to get this ine!
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
You could always edit posts if it's just a small thing you want to add on.

Also Workstation e-tank is possible, you just do the SW and infinite boost into the area with the final scan point for the puzzle.
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Also Workstation e-tank is possible, you just do the SW and infinite boost into the area with the final scan point for the puzzle.


Wait, would there be a safe return to a savestation afterwards? I don't think so but feel free to prove me wrong. If I understand you correctly, you would be inside the little sub-room containing the Energy Tank but how can you escape via the little tunnel afterwards? Are they gonna be open and stay open as soon as you collect the Energy Tank, even though you never did the puzzle (which requires Wave Beam)? I guess there's a list of many single items we could get but are stuck afterwards.
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with the final scan point for the puzzle.
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Jup, I got it in the meantime. Thx tho, Justin. ;)
I run this here hotel of an evening
How does R-Hopping to gain speed work? I know there's no speed cap for those jumps (iirc), i just don't get how the speed is gained. Is it like dash hopping without the dash? Or something else?

It's kinda hard to tell from the videos I've seen it used in
You do an R jump and turn to one side (it doesn't matter which). When you come in contact with the ground, you need to be holding R and L and press B within 2 frames.

1st frame: you gain speed
2nd frame: you maintain speed
3+ frames: you start to lose speed

If you're holding a direction on the control stick, then releasing L helps gain speed. If not, I don't know if it affects the jump.

Side note: a good place to practice this is sunchamber (flaahgra's room).
Could someone explain how to get floaty on Tallon by unloading a room? I remember seeing M177 do it but I don't even remember which room of the crashed frigate he used...