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Hazel
2011-04-17 10:03:06 am
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
how is the dash methed of SJE done in the trilogy?
T3
2011-04-17 08:45:00 pm
Freez dash off the back of the ship by using a seedling as your lock on. I've never actually managed the dash but apparently it's been done twice before.

Hazel
2011-04-17 09:16:39 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
ok so how is a freez dash done?
T3
2011-04-17 09:28:21 pm
Lock-on to an enemy, stand at the edge of a ledge, strafe either directly left or right off the ledge, jump right as you go over the ledge, release the lock-on.

You'll realize that when you strafe off the ledge in this way you'll get a huge speed boost. The idea is to jump right when you get this speed boost and it will carry you quite far.
Hazel
2011-04-17 09:29:43 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
so just like a dash in the GC prime?
T3
2011-04-17 09:31:42 pm
Not really, you abuse the speed you attain from strafing off ledges.
Hazel
Hazel
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Hazel: 2011-04-17 09:35:30 pm
2011-04-17 09:35:10 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
ok i think i get it
so as you fall of the ledge you get speed but you get more with a lock on so you have to kinda like ather "dash" but not really in ather just the timeing is some what like an ather jump but with a well timed.. everything
T3
2011-04-17 09:37:48 pm
Yeah, that's basically it.
Hazel
2011-04-17 09:38:01 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
also does the spin help?
T3
2011-04-17 09:39:21 pm
I highly doubt it, although it was said to give a bit of a boost.
BioSpark
2011-04-17 09:53:54 pm
it at least lets you see where you're going.
T3
2011-04-17 09:59:10 pm
i would say having samus land sideways is likely better because that's where her feet are. it may just give that extra distance to make the jump.
Hazel
2011-04-18 04:54:38 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
Quote from T3:
but apparently it's been done twice before.



soon to be three... XD
playe
2011-04-18 05:09:22 pm
Well good luck with it, I eventually gave up on it and tried attempting SJE (both bomb jump methods) but I never managed to get it, I can never seem to get enough height.
Hazel
2011-04-18 05:34:51 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
Quote from playe:
Well good luck with it, I eventually gave up on it and tried attempting SJE (both bomb jump methods) but I never managed to get it, I can never seem to get enough height.

the unmorph has to be perfectly timed i've made it 3 or 4 times and it takes me a good half hour ever time
Hazel
Hazel
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Hazel: 2011-04-19 07:38:52 pm
2011-04-19 07:14:49 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
ok well now that i've asked 8000 questions about the trilogy i think i know almost all i need when it comes to tricks and what not

TIME FOR A SPEED RUN

i have basic route planed and will be starting soon and unlike my GC version runs this ones gonna be a full out speed run in other words im going for the WR (one last queston ummm what is the WR) i'm doing a test run now looks good so far and when i get another SD card for back up saving im starting (should be this weekend)

so heres the route i have plaese give feed back but only if you know what your talking about:
fragate part 1: 0:02

part 2 : 0:05

SJF : 0:05 (this will be a living hell!!!!)

missle, ball, missle, charge, bombs : 0:11

varia (and from here on where i dont know what times to aim for)

artifact, artifact, boost, maybe save, wave

heres where i need help should i get lifegiver then wall crawl to ice or get SuperM's and spider the go get lifegiver and ice

i have both route planed out after that point but i dont know witch i should do so imma wait till i know witch is better (i can to wall crawls pritty fast if i have to)
T3
2011-04-19 07:49:16 pm
World Record for japanese version is 1:37 which is the far more broken version of the game. Ntsc record is like 1:24 or 1:05? (apparently)



I find those records extremely hard to believe but what i managed to get way back was 1:39. This featured every major sequence break except SJF (i did SJE).

As for the route, I'd go for the wallcrawl but you should pick up Wild on the way.
Hazel
2011-04-19 07:56:13 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
WILD!!!!

you mean i need to do the wall crwal the WILD!!!

1:05 no thats not ever, no ,that cant, nooo ,thats fake, thats gotta be fake
T3
2011-04-19 08:00:39 pm
You've got to wallcrawl to wild if you don't wanna have to pick up spider, which wastes like 5 or so minutes.
Hazel
2011-04-19 08:05:34 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
damn i cant atehr jump that well it the trilogy well im ok at it but i cant go all the way up the suntower (i think its called the suntower)

would it waste more time if when i get plasma i fight go Thardus right after or just before then go get wild later?
T3
2011-04-19 08:20:40 pm
You wallcrawl up Arboretum iirc not suntower.

Remember, if you're getting Wild in bounds you'll also need to go out of your way to get super missiles. It's almost certainly faster to get Wild through secret worlds.
Hazel
2011-04-20 04:49:03 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks
Quote from T3:
You wallcrawl up Arboretum iirc not suntower.

Remember, if you're getting Wild in bounds you'll also need to go out of your way to get super missiles. It's almost certainly faster to get Wild through secret worlds.

so am i using the GH SW or the main plaza? (im guessing GH?)
T3
2011-04-20 06:26:50 pm
GH, although main plaza may actually be slightly faster but it's a longer wallcrawl and way harder.
playe
2011-04-20 06:42:35 pm
If he's doing segmented he should use the Main Plaza SW since he can reset a segment over and over again.
Hazel
2011-04-21 05:04:25 pm
rocks, locks, and invisible blocks


was the 3rd one a freez dash?