The "I need help" Topic

2011-01-21 04:50:12 pm

Okay I'm having a problem with IBBF (it really kills my speed-runs), my problem is getting one certain room to load (the one after the first tunnel). So my question is, how can I get that room to load? the only way I know how to load rooms in a SW is to stand to the left of them and then jump and the rooms loads, but this room I can't seem to get to load.

Jerry9

2011-01-22 01:42:26 am

not evil,just hungry

there are a few tunnels in that area. what is the name of the room you are having trouble with?

playe

2011-01-22 05:10:18 am

The one before Furnace. (The very first tunnel that you encounter)

bartendorsparky

2011-01-22 10:16:02 am

always move fast

that little section is also part of furnace. if you try to load it the easy way, it won't dump energy core and the game will freeze. so, you have to manually dump energy core. to do that, you have to morph into a little section of the ceiling where the trigger is (see: it's pretty finicky if you're not sure where it is, but you'll know you did it right if you shoot at energy core and can't hit anything. once you do that you can walk over to the door and furnace will load.

Hazel

2011-01-23 04:31:43 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

there's also the old way where you fall in front of the door shoot it then fall beside the tunnel and jump back onto the door

Schattendolch

2011-01-29 05:41:10 am

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Hey, can someone explain r-jumping to me and how I know if I've done it successfully?

I don't think there's a page on it, and in zoid's run I see him jerk his view upwards while he's jumping occasionally, I'm assuming that's r-jumping

playe

2011-01-29 09:25:29 am

Yes that is R-jumping.

Really the only difference between an R-jump and an L-jump is that you press the R button instead. (it also makes some jumps easier but there's very few where you need to use one)

Oh and if you do an R-jump remember that you can't stop once you press the R-button in mid-air as it "locks" you in the direction you're going in. As for how you know you've done it correctly... I would guess you make the jump you're attempting?

T3

2011-01-29 04:50:45 pm

To R-jump you have to l jump, press r, tilt left or right and then lock it with l before peforming your second jump. Although, there are many variations of this jump and you'll eventually come up with a slightly different way of perfoming it.

Hazel

2011-01-30 09:22:49 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

in the trilogy, can spider ball be skiped or do you need it for plasma, phazon suit and geting to ice beam?

sabata2

2011-01-30 02:26:48 pm

ANKOKU

IIRC Sheegoth managed to get SJF, IBBF, and Early Plasma in Trilogy.

So... my guess is yes. But you have to put up with the hell that is Trilogy's SJF.

UchihaSasuke

2011-01-30 03:34:45 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

there's also MQA to consider.

playe

2011-01-30 05:09:31 pm

I would assume yes, but you'd probably need to use the BSJ or Ghetto jump methods.

Hazel

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2011-01-30 06:09:33 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

ok now im more lost

you can get IBBF and SJF wtf how D: i tryed IBBF (but after boost and all) and im like a foot low of the hole you need you get in the SW with my best ghetto, im thinking that one in main plaza could get me to ice beam but i died getting in to that for early wild and never what to use that SW again...

also what's MQA?

and how do you do the SJF dash?

more stuff i need help with is getting out of main plaza the bombs before ball way theres a large like floor around the tree and i can get under it

T3

2011-01-30 06:16:56 pm

it is possible to skip spider ball in the trilogy although it's extremely hard.

MQA = metroid quarantine A. you have to do a crazy metroid jump to skip spider ball here.

SJF can be done using a freez dash. the beetle dash method as well as the dash off the ship are both possible.

You can do IBBF by entering the gathering hall secret world.

Hazel

2011-01-30 06:30:04 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

do you need to lock onto a scan target or somthing to get the ghetto to work in gathering hall? like the 101% in mp2 trilogy

T3

2011-01-30 08:34:00 pm

It certainly would help but iirc it's not necessary.

Hazel

2011-01-30 08:56:23 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

ok good to know imma try that some time after my IBBMB (ice beam before morph ball) witch is almost done just 2 more rooms of wall crawling

playe

2011-01-31 12:21:47 am

No it isn't necesarry to lock onto a scan point to get into the Gathering Hall SW in Trilogy, I've done it several times in the past. Actaully it may be easier but idk, I'd have to play up to that point again. (meaning get Boost, then SJ and then test it out but I don't feel like it atm.

petrie911

2011-02-03 05:34:28 pm

OK, I'm trying to get the energy tank in Training Chamber before Varia. So, I can wallcrawl to training chamber just fine, but I run into two problems. The first is that I don't know how to get into that little area where the tank is. I remember seeing something about ceiling warping, but I have no idea how to do that. The second problem is training chamber's SW. I can't seem to get the last jump. Is there a vid of that SW somewhere?

Hazel

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2011-02-03 05:50:10 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

ha its funny cuz i did that the other day

umm unless your doning a varialess run (and want to go back and fight flaahgra) floaty jump really helps with this for 2 reasons
1. you need flosty jump to get back into a SW
2. theres a hole in the roof that you can fall in then IBJ (3 bombs) into the ball slot thing then get the energy tank then go back into the SW or just IBJ into the bomb slot and leave the intended way

Jerry9

2011-02-03 07:16:46 pm

not evil,just hungry

it's been a long time since I last SW'd back there. iirc, you can ceiling warp directly into the energy tank section. to do the ceiling warp, load training chamber and then move the map back to the adjacent room. with the map on the other room, go over to the energy tank, morph, and then unmorph. the unmorph should drop you through the ceiling.

fj isn't needed for this SW, but only a few people have claimed to do it without. I am not one of them. as far as I know, there has never been a video.

Hazel

2011-02-03 08:42:30 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

people also say they did bambs before ball but its never been done

if someone has done it tho a video wouold be nice (hint hint)

Aruki

2011-02-03 11:02:01 pm

i'm pretty sure you can't ceiling warp through to the energy tank because ceiling warping requires the ceiling to be sloped/uneven, and the ceiling over the energy tank is flat. getting that tank for VMR is impossible without floaty jump.

Hazel

2011-02-04 01:35:35 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

you know what just cuz you said that imma go spend hours trying fail then get mad.
thank you paraxade

Hazel

2011-02-11 03:56:58 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

i was hoping someone could tell me the longist anyone has ever goon without MBB? (and not get traped)