[SM] Super Metroid Second Quest

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arkarian: 2009-06-09 09:09:10 pm

2009-03-10 12:36:01 pm

Here's a half hack that I found while surfin' the web. I've only played a few minutes of it. Looks like you can only walljump once in this game, that is unless the ability is unlocked via an item later on. The creator says there are 'door warps', not sure if he/she means some of the pointers were changed? He says there are 'special' beams too - but what's most exciting to me is the 'Rocket Ball' he described. So far it appears there are practically no changes made at all to the rooms except for a couple blocks here and there. Haven't heard anyone mention this so I thought I would post the link:

http://acmlm.kafuka.org/board/thread.php?id=4494

PS-works on headered

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DMantra

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2009-03-10 02:36:33 pm

Breathe in the Future, Breathe out the Past

I'm already stuck after bombs lol.
Having no wall jump ability makes me feel like I'm 8 again going up the crat shaft.

Cpadolf

2009-03-10 03:01:30 pm

Almost happy

While I don't entirely think that gimping walljump is a bad idea (at least it makes for a different experience), I don't like the execution of it. That is, if you make a walljump on a wall to the right of samus, you will continually rise through the air until your momentum goes down to 0. Also, you can actually walljump multiple times, but it is almost impossible to do, as you have to push back to the wall instantly after walljumping to not unspin (that is, the next frame, two frames and you unspin).

I've played for a while now, and the hack is more different from the original than it seems at first. Oh, and getting up to the gauntlet sucked hard, what with the changed timing in bombjumps and all.

DMantra

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2009-03-10 03:15:43 pm

Breathe in the Future, Breathe out the Past

I had a feeling that's where I needed to go, I just realized how easy ibj is with these physics.

Sturmvogel Prime

2009-03-10 04:01:50 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

Quote from DMantra:

I'm already stuck after bombs lol.
Having no wall jump ability makes me feel like I'm 8 again going up the crat shaft.

I'm also stucked there too Evil or Very Mad

and for worse the bomb jumping is impossible in this hack (and i tought Redesign's controls are the worst.)

Opium

2009-03-10 04:05:24 pm

Quote from Sturmvogel Prime:

Quote from DMantra:

I'm already stuck after bombs lol.
Having no wall jump ability makes me feel like I'm 8 again going up the crat shaft.

I'm also stucked there too Evil or Very Mad

and for worse the bomb jumping is impossible in this hack (and i tought Redesign's controls are the worst.)

You do realize that the inability to do a continuous wall-jump is intentional, right? I think you need to go to the gauntlet next using IBJ which from what I'm hearing is much easier with the new bombs.

PS - RD's physics are the best, imo

FirePhoenix

2009-03-10 05:15:44 pm

I'm teaching myself how to bombjump... I wish he hadn't changed the physics and then forced ibj on us. ibj is one thing but forced is another, and changed bomb timing plus forced ibj is yet another thing. I know the timings but there's so little room for error I find.

Crys

2009-03-10 05:51:01 pm

Green-Kirby, ROAR!

I changed the bomb timer for my self. ;<D

So far it's "meh" nothing new half hack wise. I got ice and wave beam and I see no changes so far. I want to see this rocket ball he claims to have made though.

Obsy

2009-03-10 06:10:44 pm

Mistic Eyes Of Death Perception! Chibi Style!

Quote from Crys:

I changed the bomb timer for my self. ;<D

So far it's "meh" nothing new half hack wise. I got ice and wave beam and I see no changes so far. I want to see this rocket ball he claims to have made though.

I used smile to check it out. Embarassed

Nothing special. Though may have been difficult to make for all I know...

It is very difficult to pull off, and causes you to spineshark upwards.
Your not even in the morphball. Rolling Eyes

Xaggoth

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Xaggoth: 2009-03-10 07:52:46 pm

2009-03-10 07:11:03 pm

Quote from Crys:

I changed the bomb timer for my self. ;<D

So far it's "meh" nothing new half hack wise. I got ice and wave beam and I see no changes so far. I want to see this rocket ball he claims to have made though.

I ended up using slowdown to ibj, it was too frustrating since I kept failing halfway up to the gauntlet.

I've beaten Kraid, Phantoon, and Croc. I'm enjoying the lack of walljumps and easy ibj, it's making me go through a lot of rooms differently.

Sturmvogel Prime

2009-03-10 07:12:04 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

How i can get the super missiles and power bombs?

Crys

2009-03-10 08:48:35 pm

Green-Kirby, ROAR!

Quote from Sturmvogel Prime:

How i can get the super missiles and power bombs?

Supers are after kraid.

Xaggoth

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Xaggoth: 2009-03-11 12:40:51 am

2009-03-11 12:24:47 am

Unsure of where to proceed, Kraid and Phantoon are dead, but I can't find a gravity suit. I don't know if I'm supposed to do gravityless maridia or if I'm missing something...

Edit: The regular mochtroid freeze room is too changed to bypass without gravity.

FirePhoenix

2009-03-11 01:33:10 am

I'm stuck at the same place as Xaggoth. Can't find Gravity anywhere, but Lower Norfair is inaccessible with the walljump restrictions as they are and I can't get into Maridia via crateria because of the water. I'm really hoping that I don't have to do suitless maridia because I don't think I've ever successfully pulled it off.

Xaggoth

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Xaggoth: 2009-03-11 02:05:30 am

2009-03-11 01:48:40 am

Bleh, I feel kinda bad, but i opened this up with smile to find out if gravityless maridia is necessary and it totally is.
I sorta feel like hacks need to tell you when they have heated runs and unsuited water parts, especially when it's vanilla's map.

What I was missing:

You need to traverse maridia without gravity to the turtle room

Edit: Can anyone give me an in-depth explanation of how the rocketball works? I can't seem to do anything with it.

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Xaggoth

2009-03-11 02:14:16 am

I think I may have borked the page when I tried to upload a screen of a broken door, at least the page won't show up for me any more. It's the lower right door at the top of the vertical maridia pipe room.

Xaggoth

2009-03-11 03:29:33 am

Currently stuck in the pre-Botwoon room, I do not see a way past without a super short charge. Anyone else stuck here?

FirePhoenix

2009-03-12 03:16:38 am

I'm stuck there as well. And yeah, the thread got broken. That seems to be happening a lot recently...

Anima Zero

2009-03-13 11:46:17 am

Pre-Botwoon room... you'll need to rocket ball through a couple blocks. Just keep going right once you enter this room until it seems like you hit a dead end, then bomb above you to reveal a speed booster block. Rocket Ball through and keep going on forwards, bombing whenever you think the original path through the room is now a solid wall of blocks. It's a good bet to assume there's a speed booster block right above you whenever this happens.

Finished up just a little while ago. 2:02, 87%. Different item collection order...shakes things up a bit indeed. New bomb physics+being forced to IBJ at the landing site to get to the gauntlet= Ouch.

Crys

2009-03-13 12:46:57 pm

Green-Kirby, ROAR!

FP and Xaggoth:
After phantoon you should head for croc. :<

DMantra

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2009-03-13 01:11:07 pm

Breathe in the Future, Breathe out the Past

3:06 99%

shinesparking anywhere was fun but glitchy.
http://www.digital-mantra.com/motherbrainlol.wmv
http://www.digital-mantra.com/draygonlul.avi

FirePhoenix

2009-03-13 03:51:42 pm

I actually finished this two nights ago but didn't bother posting since the thread was borked. 3:00, 100%. I think I finished first but since I couldn't post it very well we'll never know.

Xaggoth

2009-03-13 08:50:14 pm

There must be something I'm missing, I'm still stuck in the pre-botwoon room. I see the first speedblock that I can rocketball through, but that only gets me halfway through the room? I see no way of clearing the speedblocks along the bottom.

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danidub

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danidub: 2009-03-13 10:44:08 pm

2009-03-13 09:57:39 pm

I'm in Maridia but have no idea how to progress without Gravity Suit.
How do you pass the sand falls to get the Spring Ball?
If it's there. Eh?

Xaggoth

2009-03-13 10:50:52 pm

Quote from danidub:

How do you pass the sand falls to get the Spring Ball?

You don't, come back with gravity, you'll need to climb up the room above the tube without gravity.