[SM] Super Metroid: Redesign

2007-11-22 09:56:59 am

Krog, I also sent you like 5 PM's thanking you for your comments on the hack, did you get any of them? M2K2's PM service has been terrible since the update

DMantra

(user is banned)

2007-11-23 07:08:46 pm

Breathe in the Future, Breathe out the Past

Can't remember what forum I posted in, but I remember a thread on redesign where I professed my adoration for it. So yeah.. Best hack yet. I've played it three times now.

Krosigrim

2007-11-25 12:55:45 am

"Combustion Hands"

Yes Sigfriedxx, I got 2 of them. I appreciate your efforts in thanking me. It's good to know that you still care so much about your project.

I sent you a message, so let me know if you didn't get it. Perhaps we can talk shop.

FirePhoenix

2007-12-09 11:09:53 pm

So I've been playing through this again just to do so and I'm noticing so many things that I didn't notice before. For instance, I never realized just how many graphical changes you did, such as the piping pieces and (I think) the rocks in Crateria. I also never noticed the palette changes that you did to Crateria and a bit of Brinstar.

I have a couple questions about some of the things you did.

1. I know you must have added rooms to the hack but some of the rooms are massive. How did you manage to create such massive rooms without crashing the game? I haven't expanded any rooms in my hack so far, but I probably will and I want to know how I can get large rooms
2. What graphics did you overwrite to create the graphics for the piping and stuff? Taking a guess, I think you overwrote the graphics for the ocean background in Crateria. I'd like to create some of my own and was thinking about what I should use.
3. What is the timing for Infinite Bomb Jumping now? I can't get it at all.
4. Why did you make such complex Shinespark puzzles??? They're killers! :P

It's awesome to play through this game over. I've gotten a higher percentage than previously. Mostly the only items left are the ones behind the dynamos and the ones requiring IBJ. Great job you did with this game. Bravo. =D>

So I've been playing through this again just to do so and I'm noticing so many things that I didn't notice before.  For instance, I never realized just how many graphical changes you did, such as the piping pieces and (I think) the rocks in Crateria.  I also never noticed the palette changes that you did to Crateria and a bit of Brinstar.

I have a couple questions about some of the things you did.

1.  I know you must have added rooms to the hack but some of the rooms are massive.  How did you manage to create such massive rooms without crashing the game?  I haven't expanded any rooms in my hack so far, but I probably will and I want to know how I can get large rooms
2.  What graphics did you overwrite to create the graphics for the piping and stuff?  Taking a guess, I think you overwrote the graphics for the ocean background in Crateria.  I'd like to create some of my own and was thinking about what I should use.
3.  What is the timing for Infinite Bomb Jumping now?  I can't get it at all.
4.  Why did you make such complex Shinespark puzzles??? They're killers! :P

It's awesome to play through this game over.  I've gotten a higher percentage than previously.  Mostly the only items left are the ones behind the dynamos and the ones requiring IBJ.  Great job you did with this game.  Bravo. =D&gt;

Fano7

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Fano7: 2007-12-10 06:57:26 pm

2007-12-10 04:23:42 pm

Every Bit Counts

YAY! I finally found Botween (after a few weeks of searching). :D :D Very Happy

This is a nice hack again.

Edit: I think I found a glitch. I started a spark to the right from the first pic, while holding right and run, so I can recharge on the slope. But I went inside it. aiwebs_016

But, while trying to reproduce it, I found that it olny works if you start the spark in the area around the first pic.

attachments:

Super Metroid Redesgin003.png

Super Metroid Redesgin004.png

Sigfriedxx

2007-12-10 08:11:18 pm

Thanks for pointing that out Fano, but its been a known issue since before the game was released =)

However good work on finding a slope to get the result on. I have struggled to recreate that error on any other slope except for the 5 or so I found during pre-beta.
I'll be sure to fix that for Axeil Edition.

Bolognab

2007-12-10 09:18:30 pm

Axiel Edition?

kwinse

2007-12-10 09:28:04 pm

If I'm getting it right, it's supposed to be a much easier version. It's named after the poor sap over at Something Awful that did a playthrough of this fun (but sometimes challenging) game. Drew even got in on the commentary, and got to see just how bad Axeil is at playing SM. :P

Fano7

2007-12-11 05:45:47 am

Every Bit Counts

your welcome Drewseph. Now to find Lower Norfair :P(not asking for help). BTW, was I suppost to shine-spark to the

Beam Combo?

And is it just me, or does

Screw Attack

increase your horizantal speed and distance?

Cardweaver

2007-12-11 05:56:48 am

Quote from Fano7:

And is it just me, or does

Screw Attack

increase your horizantal speed and distance?

I don't think its just you.

I think screw attack is like a jumping speedbooster in redesign. You'll notice that you only screw attack while holding the dash button.

Fano7

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Fano7: 2007-12-11 06:09:46 am

2007-12-11 06:00:23 am

Every Bit Counts

I've noticed that to.

Edit: This has been bugging be for awhile. Is it possible to Space Jump up here?

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Cardweaver

2007-12-11 06:17:45 am

I'm fairly certain it is, but it's really hard because the gap between the sand is tiny. I seem to remember jumping up through there though... I think you have to move in and out of the sand for it to work.

FirePhoenix

2007-12-11 06:44:40 am

Actually, there's a way around that drops you out about halfway up that shaft. Then you have to Screw Attack up the rest of it.

The way around starts near the northeast elevator.

Sigfriedxx

2007-12-11 08:22:47 am

Normally you're not suppused to be able to space jump at all through any sort of sand falls. hence why its not doable without slowdowns. I don't get why everyone gets stuck thinking thats the way when there is a very clear green door on the right side of the room to go through

Fano7

2007-12-11 03:46:32 pm

Every Bit Counts

I know the way, but its annoying to go all the way around just because I can't SJ up that. Also, was I suppost to Shine-Spark to the Beam Combo?

FirePhoenix

2007-12-11 04:27:20 pm

I've never tried to Shinespark to it before. The way i just did it was by using Spring Ball in the sand and laying bombs like crazy to boost myself enough to get up and onto a platform.

Sigfriedxx

2007-12-11 07:54:45 pm

fire phoenix has it right, you were supposed to springball to beam combo. I didn't even think you could have enough time t shine spark to beam combo

Fano7

2007-12-11 07:57:04 pm

Every Bit Counts

I made an smv. Also, I found another place for the stuck in slope glitch.

attachments:

Beam Combo Spark.smv

Super Metroid Redesgin006.png

kwinse

2007-12-12 02:02:38 am

Springball never occurred to me, quite honestly. What I did was just jump repeatedly while holding diagonal. It's what I do for all sand. >_>

Fano7

2007-12-12 06:55:30 am

Every Bit Counts

My game glitches up. I can't go through the door. :( Does it have anything to do with springballing past this shutter?

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Super Metroid Redesgin008.png

Sigfriedxx

2007-12-12 09:55:23 am

that doesn't make any sense, since its a blue door. theres no reason fir it to not be shootable. I suggest you re-patch the rom

Fano7

2007-12-12 03:22:19 pm

Every Bit Counts

I can shoot it, but it glitches near the end of the transation. It just turns to a black screen near the time you would start to see Samus's head.

Kriole

2007-12-12 03:31:44 pm

Meri Kurisumasu! ^_^

Quote from Fano7:

I can shoot it, but it glitches near the end of the transation. It just turns to a black screen near the time you would start to see Samus's head.

While you are in tourian. Could you send me a savestate/smv there, so I can show Drewseph where I got stuck? Don't want to replay the whole hack just to show him a minor glitch ;/

Fano7

2007-12-12 03:59:50 pm

Every Bit Counts

You got mail. Also, it works now for some reason. Mabey it was because I killed more metroids? Mabey not. I killed 3 more and tried again.

Kriole

2007-12-12 04:13:01 pm

Meri Kurisumasu! ^_^

Allright. So, I came from the YELLOW area and demorphed in the RED area.

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