[SM] Super Metroid: Cliffhanger [E]

2009-04-11 05:58:30 pm

Go ahead. Stare.

You have to grapple out of there. You must do a pixel-perfect grapple right after the crumble block lets go, which will barely attach to the block above and pull you through.

horscht(i)

2009-04-12 08:26:09 am

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Oh man, so easy...
I always tried to let one block crack, meanwhile grapple the other, swing around to build up enough momentum and then swinging out pixel-perfect through the short-time hole...me dumb.

reaper901

2009-04-12 03:24:00 pm

the metroid is a lie !

as if i haven't got round to playing this all the way through yet, i might well do soon, last save got lost during pc swaps Evil or Very Mad

Gaius_4

2009-04-13 01:46:57 am

Quote from horscht(i):

Oh man, so easy...
I always tried to let one block crack, meanwhile grapple the other, swing around to build up enough momentum and then swinging out pixel-perfect through the short-time hole...me dumb.

If you're at the spot I think you are... I always did a -sort of- rapid fire with the grapple beam. That way the instant it disappears I can catch the one above it.

Quietus

2009-04-13 08:54:10 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

There is some margin for error there. If you're dangling straight down on a short beam, and fire upward as soon as the block crumbles, you should make it fairly easily.

horscht(i)

2009-04-14 08:54:32 am

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Quote from Gaius_4:

Quote from horscht(i):

Oh man, so easy...
I always tried to let one block crack, meanwhile grapple the other, swing around to build up enough momentum and then swinging out pixel-perfect through the short-time hole...me dumb.

If you're at the spot I think you are... I always did a -sort of- rapid fire with the grapple beam. That way the instant it disappears I can catch the one above it.

It worked instantly after your post. Three trials and out.
Haven`t played much further, though, but the speed booster part afterwards was kind fun.
Nice idea DMantra!

Natus

2009-04-14 04:51:28 pm

Hey, great hack so far - very clever and unique. One slight issue - I seem to have managed to get Samus stuck inside a speed booster block in the easy version. I already reloaded from a save state WAY back, but I wanted to point this out.

**Possible slight spoiler**
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m121/Knarvice/Stuck.gif
**Possible slight spoiler**

Quietus

2009-04-15 04:18:13 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

If you're in the part I think you're in, you aren't supposed to move around in there, but fly straight across it with a shinespark. Eh?

horscht(i)

2009-04-17 02:41:31 pm

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I give up. Last major item was grapple. I inspected all places so far, but there`re no grapple blocks or anything like that.
All unexplored ways need wave, supers or power bombs. Found a lot of single power bomb blocks, though. Guess there`re some missile packs behind.

Anyway, I don`t know where to go now.

MetroidMst

2009-04-17 10:47:51 pm

Go ahead. Stare.

Grapple... I don't quite remember where to go after that... Maybe Speed Booster or you might need to head for the Wrecked Ship. Refresh my memory and tell me what other items you have and I should have a good idea of what you need to do.

Opium

2009-04-17 11:51:10 pm

You need to find a way into Eldridge (wrecked ship)

Super KB

2009-04-18 12:07:45 am

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isnt there another way to kill the golden chozo statue after i get the gravity suit? my beam weapon has no effect however and so far i can only damage him with super missles for some reason

Steyiak

2009-04-18 12:45:01 am

Quote from SuperKeenenBell:

isnt there another way to kill the golden chozo statue after i get the gravity suit? my beam weapon has no effect however and so far i can only damage him with super missles for some reason

If I remember right you get the gravity a few rooms after golden torizo (I think it was impossible to fight him without it).
You are supposed to kill him only with super missiles

horscht(i)

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horscht(i): 2009-04-18 07:32:06 am

2009-04-18 04:08:37 am

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Quote from Opium:

You need to find a way into Eldridge (wrecked ship)

Yeah, I kinda figured that after reading some pages in this thread, but only way, I find is through a backwards blue gate east of the ship.

/E: Forget about it. Got it.

/E²: So, beat Phantoon, got supers and just left the wrecked ship part. Back in Red Brinstar again. From the map I know that somwhere below this long hall an energy tank an couple missiles are waiting. I would like to grab both before I proceed. Anyone thoughts on that?

What you see in the pic is the red brinstar elevator to the left. If you compare DMantra`s map with the ingame mini-map, somwhere to the right have to be breaking blocks in the ground.

attachments:

Clipboard01.png

map.png

horscht(i)

2009-04-18 02:16:23 pm

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Sorry for double post, but I might have a bug to report. In the easy version you can get stuck in the ceiling next to your ship.
Movie recorded with ZSNES 1.51. I had some trouble with patching, so might be related to that, but I`m not sure.

attachment:

Super_Metroid_Cliffhanger.zmv

Opium

2009-04-18 03:17:56 pm

Those items are unattainable from that hall. The area where those items are has can only be entered through

the area where you got the charge beam.

The glitch near the ship was reported on the few first pages of this thread I think.

horscht(i)

2009-04-19 05:34:50 am

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Thanks! I played along yesterday and found that way already, but I could not get the energy tank, only the two missile packs.
Meanwhile I increased my ammo a lot and eventually found the Spazer.
I`ve spotted at least three energy tanks, but I`m not able to reach them (this one, the room before the wrecked ship and in that very big red brinstar room).

I guess Norfair is the way to go? If so, how? The (normal) way to wrecked ship is blocked by a grey door and the brinstar elevator only leads to speed boosters...

It`s interesting! Every time I ask something in this thread I somehow manage to get along on my own. Maybe I`m still lucky today.

Opium

2009-04-19 09:28:17 am

You cannot re-enter the upper part of Eldridge again, but don't worry because that e-tank will present itself in a different location later on in the game. The one in the big brinstar room I can only get after space jump, but I'm sure you could IBJ up there if you feel up to it.

Take the elevator to Norfair and go EAST.

horscht(i)

2009-04-19 10:47:53 am

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I tried a diagonal shinespark + instant morphing, but doesn`t work. To less space.

I visited Norfair already, but as said, east of this elevator is only the speed booster room...

Super KB

2009-04-20 01:27:37 am

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i cant play original no more..... khaaaan

its too impossible for me to get in the room where the bomb room is. (i even tried slow)

DMantra you're too cruel...

Gaius_4

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Gaius_4: 2009-04-20 02:16:14 am

2009-04-20 01:47:34 am

Quote from SuperKeenenBell:

i cant play original no more..... khaaaan

its too impossible for me to get in the room where the bomb room is. (i even tried slow)

DMantra you're too cruel...

That is a very tight spot to get in to.

Try wall jumping from as low as you can, (I'm talking in pixels here) and press back towards the wall you just jumped off of. You might not want to jump right at the edge of the (platform), but have the arc of the jump near the middle. This will help you touch the wall at a lower spot.

That's all I can suggest.

Edit: No. I can suggest, keep trying. Another thing to think of doing is; jump towards one of the platforms, press away and jump and immediately roll the D-Pad 180 degrees back towards the wall.

It's easier to explain than actually do. Embarassed

Super KB

2009-04-20 02:09:11 am

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whew! i made finally...thanks, your advice kinda helped

Opium

2009-04-20 02:40:06 am

Quote from horscht(i):

I tried a diagonal shinespark + instant morphing, but doesn`t work. To less space.

I visited Norfair already, but as said, east of this elevator is only the speed booster room...

you need to not go into the door directly east of the elevator, but go into the door ABOVE that one. Continue east and you should see an unlocked grey door.

horscht(i)

2009-04-20 03:03:22 pm

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Arrrr...super missile blocks...alright Croco is history, found power bombs, another energy tank and looks like I`m stuck again.
But I`ll try some more, before I ask.

Super KB

2009-04-21 12:28:19 am

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has anybody got to this point in norfair? im having trouble reaching the map room behind this.
i cant stand up and blast through this for some reason (it wont let me)
do i have to boost in ball form?