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TBH I would release in both MIDI and MP3 or MP3 only. There is a slight and sometimes great difference in how midis sound from one computer to another due to the library of sounds being different for different computers/sound cards. So something that sounds great to you on your comp may not sound so great on someone else's. I used to dl a lot of vidya game midis and I've swapped comps a couple times since then so I know this firsthand. Each comp has its own 'take' on the same midi.

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You would in general not ever download and listen to an SPC unless you were really into ripping soundtracks directly from SNES games.


I do it =3 It's superior to mp3s of the game's music in that it sounds basically the same as the song ingame and doesn't take up 70+megs for an OST. More like 200KB or something.
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Ok, wait. I remember Zhs saying
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ZSNES makes an SPC rip from the rom
How would one do this? I looked at the Zsnes menus and minimenus, and I couldn't find where to make the SPC file separate. Any help here?
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Zhs2: 2008-10-17 09:46:32 pm
Yo.
Glad you asked, BionicleGenius! Press F1 to bring up a menu about yea big in your ZSNES:



See the third option there? That's the one you're looking for. Arrow down twice, and press Enter. Simple as that. Of course, finding a player to use it with is entirely up to you. ;)

Of course, this is an acceptable method for ripping single SPCs. If you wanted an entire game's soundtrack collection (in SPC format, of course) you would most likely want to look at a website such as www.zophar.net, since ripping an entire soundtrack means playing the entire game (if the game has a sound test, then your job is slightly less arduous, but still a chore. <_>; )

EDIT: Ohhhhhh right right. I think I'll be more specific here... The SPC file will save to where ever you told it to. If you haven't defined a preset directory (or don't know what I"m talking about when I say define a directory,) the SPC file will save to the same directory as your roms.
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Ok, I did what you said, but where is it saved?
Nvm. I found it, I think. Is it the file that's the type PKCS #7 Certificates?
Yes it is. Also, I found a good SPC player. I'm going to try converting the file to MIDI, which I can then convert to NWC, so I can actually look at the staffs and music that way in Noteworthy. Any file converter recommended?

ARG! I went through all the converters at Zophar.net, and still didn't find one that worked! The only one that actually converted them to midi only used the acoustic drums and acoustic piano, meaning I didn't find the actual instrumentation I wanted. Still doing my best to convert one to midi... Can anyone help please?
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Did you check romhacking.net yet?
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Yup. There's nothing there. I just looked under utilities, searched for sound, Super Nintendo, Windows, and everything else was any. Got three results, and none of them were what I was looking for. I have the music; I just don't have the instrumentation, which is annoying.
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ARG! I went through all the converters at Zophar.net, and still didn't find one that worked! The only one that actually converted them to midi only used the acoustic drums and acoustic piano, meaning I didn't find the actual instrumentation I wanted.

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midi, N-SPC, and tracker files are decently close to eachother and could be translated freely from one to the other (although translating to midi will lose the instrument sampling in N-SPC and tracker files).

Also unless you're really good at working with music you're not going to get far in converting it to sheet music anyways, as there's no time signature. You have to empirically figure the tempo, multiply the starting position/length by the right amount, and then fix the tempo. And all the accelerandos and ritardandos if the song has them.
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And all the accelerandos and ritardandos if the song has them.


lol @ ritardandos.  It's the word of the day!
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Tempos and volume I can handle. I'd just like the instrumentation and the notes! That's what really counts with this. I found an SPC player fairly easily, but the converter - every website I've found, I did an in-depth search through it, and turned up nothing that actually worked. Closest was SPC Tool, except that it couldn't find the file I specified. I specified all the folders from C:\Documents_and_Settings to the \Desktop, and tried with out any of the folders - it never was able to actually find it. Any help, people?
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Tempos and volume I can handle. I'd just like the instrumentation and the notes! That's what really counts with this. I found an SPC player fairly easily, but the converter - every website I've found, I did an in-depth search through it, and turned up nothing that actually worked. Closest was SPC Tool, except that it couldn't find the file I specified. I specified all the folders from C:\Documents_and_Settings to the \Desktop, and tried with out any of the folders - it never was able to actually find it. Any help, people?
Give up? This has nothing to do with SM:Aegis.
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Kind of mini-moddish there, Bloodsonic. However, you're right that this discussion doesn't really belong here.
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Sorry. I had brought it out into PMs, and some other people continued it. Ignore it!
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Superb work with the map :) , more rooms = more fun ^^

This hack will be the best SM Hack in the net :)
Mind if I ask how the teleporters work? Are they just save points, or are they just fancy looking doors?

Or perhaps a wonderfully custom made PLM?
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Superb work with the map :) , more rooms = more fun ^^

This hack will be the best SM Hack in the net :)


Indeed, looks really promising! Diggin the Ice world.
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a.k.a. "why Aegis isn't out yet"


I have no problem with this.

Whenever I see a hack that shows this much promise, I tend to always think of Redesign, and the fact that we ended up waiting over two years (I think it was this long in the end  :-s) for it, so I don't often find the wait that difficult.  This is also why when it was released (even pre-patches), it was very polished.

It also looks like you're very focused on detail, which is nice, as it hopefully means that you're not just adding more rooms, but adding more worthwhile / good rooms.

Now get back to work and release Aegis, already!  Wink
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a.k.a. "why Aegis isn't out yet"


I have no problem with this.

Whenever I see a hack that shows this much promise, I tend to always think of Redesign, and the fact that we ended up waiting over two years (I think it was this long in the end  :-s) for it, so I don't often find the wait that difficult.  This is also why when it was released (even pre-patches), it was very polished.

It also looks like you're very focused on detail, which is nice, as it hopefully means that you're not just adding more rooms, but adding more worthwhile / good rooms.

Now get back to work and release Aegis, already!  Wink


Indeed, you cant rush art. Or is that you can..... I alwayz get confused :-s
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I expect that you can rush art, as some people do speed sketching and the like, but I think that's an art within art.

Also, see: This stuff is proof, y'all!

As long as Aegis isn't rushed, I'll be happy.  Speaking of which, how long would you say you have been working on this hack now, Acheron?  It must be a fair few months.
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I'd say I'm more than halfway done at this point. Pretty good, since I started it in late January.

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Updated! Gettin' there.


Actually, Acheron86 already has mentioned how long he's been working on Aegis.  So far two months shy of a year....  8-)  grin new
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El oh el, "halfway done". It was totally true back then, but then again my original Aegis map was about half as big, and I wasn't planning on any ASM...
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How'd you do the teleporters? They look really cool. Also, the rest of the notes from this post:
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Mind if I ask how the teleporters work? Are they just save points, or are they just fancy looking doors?

Or perhaps a wonderfully custom made PLM?

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How'd you do the teleporters? They look really cool. Also, the rest of the notes from this post:


You mean you don't already know??  Acheron86 just waves his moderating wand and *poof* the teleporters work, as only his wand can possibly make them work in Aegis.

Sorry to spoil your secret, Acheron86....
Yo.
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Acheron86 just waves his moderating wand and *poof* the teleporters work, as only his wand can possibly make them work in Aegis.

*Whacks Schnoz on the head* You dolt. That only works when he's on M2K2. I swear, the way he ninja posts...

But srsly. ASM is an entirely different island, compared to the wonders of SMF.
Teleporters sounds like a bad idea IMO.
How do you have, like, 15 different areas?
He can have 15 different areas the same way that there's "Lower Norfair", "Red Brinstar", etc. Several areas will appear on one map, just different tilesets and stuff from the rest of the area.