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That is without a doubt a very very VERY bad idea. Exploration is severely limited. It wouldn't even be a real metroid game anymore if you did that. Is that even possible? sounds kejardon-level.
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Really? It seems kind of easy to me. It'd just be one variable - the one hour thing - wouldn't it? That should be easy to change, if you find it. I was just thinking, if this game is a lot longer, then give the experts and hour and a half instead of just an hour. Just thinking about that. Never mind if Acheron think's it's a stupid idea.
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ICheatAtGolf: 2008-08-25 06:40:22 pm
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Unfortunately when this comes out i'll have to wait even longer for Cpa's 100% TAS


Nu uh, that one will most likely be done in less than a month  :D


Ah, thanks for the good news!   :)

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Really? It seems kind of easy to me. It'd just be one variable - the one hour thing - wouldn't it? That should be easy to change, if you find it. I was just thinking, if this game is a lot longer, then give the experts and hour and a half instead of just an hour. Just thinking about that. Never mind if Acheron think's it's a stupid idea.


Edit:  I'm assuming you're talking about a one hour timer that would count down from the beginning of the hack. 

This wouldn't work if Acheron were to insert a preset time for EVERYONE, however, it might in theory be possible to add a new game+ mode in which a timer was included based on the performance of the last playthrough.  I'm not sure how much effort this would take but its probably tedious and would further delay the release which I don't want  Wink
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Could you change the time at the end that you have to beat the game in ... ?


Wait, are you just talking about the escape timer?  That's just in SMILE.  I have no idea why you keep saying an hour or an hour and a half.  A hack that had a time limit from the beginning would be somewhat interesting I guess... but that's something you'd have to build the entire hack around. 
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No, no, I mean at the end. After you escape Zebes. It tells you how long it took you to beat the game. The ending changes depending on your time. In SM, you trigger the special ending by beating the game in under an hour. I'm asking that he changes that for this one. Just a thought. Also, will you be locking this rom when you release it? B/c that'd be nice, and make it more like the original in that you can't really cheat except by looking up a walkthrough or something.
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No, no, I mean at the end. After you escape Zebes. It tells you how long it took you to beat the game. The ending changes depending on your time. In SM, you trigger the special ending by beating the game in under an hour. I'm asking that he changes that for this one. Just a thought. Also, will you be locking this rom when you release it? B/c that'd be nice, and make it more like the original in that you can't really cheat except by looking up a walkthrough or something.


Now that I understand, that's actually a good idea in my opinion.

Also, i'm pretty positive he'll make it so none of us can open it with SMILE, kind of like how Saturn did with Impossible.

Edit:  At least I hope he does. 
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Acheron: 2008-08-26 12:38:07 am
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In SM, you trigger the special ending by beating the game in under an hour.


Three hours actually. Not sure how hard this would be to change or if it's worth changing. I hadn't thought about it to be honest. Maybe I'll mess with it later on.

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will you be locking this rom when you release it? B/c that'd be nice, and make it more like the original in that you can't really cheat except by looking up a walkthrough or something.


Absolutely not, for two reasons:
-It's not my job to tell someone how to play. If someone decides to "cheat" and look at the game, it's because they're not having enough fun exploring on their own and I've already done something wrong, or it's because they want 100% and are tired of looking. Either way there's no reason to keep players from doing that if they want to.
-I really would love to see people start making half-hacks or full-hacks using, if nothing else, new music/tilesets. I don't care if I have credit for that kind of thing, and I'm tired of halfhack Zebes unless it's Cardweaver's work, so any way to encourage an alternative for halfhackers is good in my eyes.

As long as I'm thinking about it I should mention I'm not gullible, or even a gullicalf, so when the contest is go I will expect ZMV/SMV proof of completion of the contest requirements (which I will make clear after release).
Bioniclegenius, why are you obsessed with locking the rom?  laugh new
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Because he doesn't want to see Aegis spoiled, cheated. They're going to exploit every ounce of awesomeness.
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Because he doesn't want to see Aegis spoiled, cheated. They're going to exploit every ounce of awesomeness.


Who? How? Why would this be a problem? I don't understand.
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This is a suggestion that may or may not already be in use in Aegis.  In game play there's platforms that if you just stand there you slip to the left or right, as if it's a slippery surface.  In my opinion, that would be cool to see in areas like Glacia or other potentially slippery surfaces like where there's water, ice, etc.  Obviously not a feature to be overused by the creator, of course.  Just a suggestion.  :-)
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This is a suggestion that may or may not already be in use in Aegis.  In game play there's platforms that if you just stand there you slip to the left or right, as if it's a slippery surface.  In my opinion, that would be cool to see in areas like Glacia or other potentially slippery surfaces like where there's water, ice, etc.  Obviously not a feature to be overused by the creator, of course.  Just a suggestion.  :-)


You're talking about conveyors but they can only move the player one way, so it would be kind of weird to be moving left and get pushed to the right for no reason when you already have leftward momentum. Thanks for the idea though.
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will you be locking this rom when you release it? B/c that'd be nice, and make it more like the original in that you can't really cheat except by looking up a walkthrough or something.


Absolutely not,
-I really would love to see people start making half-hacks or full-hacks using, if nothing else, new music/tilesets. I don't care if I have credit for that kind of thing, and I'm tired of halfhack Zebes, so any way to encourage an alternative for halfhackers is good in my eyes.

This makes a hell of a lot of sense. Way to sway me in the right direction Acheron. Also, the bolded-underlined part hurts my soulz.
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This makes a hell of a lot of sense. Way to sway me in the right direction Acheron. Also, the bolded-underlined part hurts my soulz.


You should check my post again.
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How's the game progess at this point?
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How's the game progess at this point?


Mostly done, have to do music and a few other things. Still not in beta yet so release isn't imminent but I can completely and confidently say "sometime this year" now. :P
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I'm tired of halfhack Zebes unless it's Cardweaver's work, so any way to encourage an alternative for halfhackers is good in my eyes.


lol, this could be start a generation of aegis half hacks.

btw this is looking really good!
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Sorry for being a bumperton that might make no sense, but...

If people beg you to make a new hack after Aegis has had all its fun, will you do that? Pretty much, I hope this might be another advent in the SM Hacking Community as much as Redesign.
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Sorry for being a bumperton that might make no sense, but...

If people beg you to make a new hack after Aegis has had all its fun, will you do that? Pretty much, I hope this might be another advent in the SM Hacking Community as much as Redesign.


Immediately after Aegis is finished I will be doing a few side projects. Beyond that depends on how well-received the hack is and how busy my life is. If I do another hack it would have to blow Aegis out of the water though.
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Beyond that depends on how well-received the hack is


HAHAHAHAHA! Like it won't be well received. You so funny.

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blow Aegis out of the water.


Could be impossible. Or at least very improbable unless Drewseph picks up the haxxzors again.
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HAHAHAHAHA! Like it won't be well received. You so funny.


I never count my chickens sir. :)

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Could be impossible. Or at least very improbable unless Drewseph picks up the haxxzors again.


Honestly I would aim to beat Redesign with my next hack.
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I was hoping you'd do some more mini-hacks after Aegis comes out, then beat Redesign with your next major hack.

By the way, I'm really horrible at Hangtime, I can't make it past the first room but it's really fun and good for practice.
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I was hoping you'd do some more mini-hacks after Aegis comes out, then beat Redesign with your next major hack.

By the way, I'm really horrible at Hangtime, I can't make it past the first room but it's really fun and good for practice.


I might, we'll see. I have a tileset to draw and a speedrun I want to do. Don't know what will happen or when.

Hangtime is sort of cruel in retrospect. I'm a grappleholic so I didn't really take average skill into consideration. Savestates are your friend.
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HAHAHAHAHA! Like it won't be well received. You so funny.


I never count my chickens sir. :)


That's just silliness. You have to count them sometime!

I suppose it's almost unnecessary to say, but anything that you make, I will force myself to play it. Even if for some twisted reason it sucks.
I predict it'll be anywhere from 3 to 7 days till we get this.  :o

Well...  I can dream can't I?  Wink