Story Analysis

DaveBatista

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2011-02-27 06:57:51 pm

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Quote from tomatobob:

It's better than Super too.

Oh really? I think not :P You can't hack M2 like you can SM.

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Quote from arkarian:

mii is one of my favorites ;(

This guys knows things, be more like him.

And whose "This guy?"

tomatobob

2011-02-27 07:10:21 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

M2 is so good it doesn't need to be hacked or even remade, SM is so boring people feel the need to hack it to pieces and change everything to make it unboring. And they still can't make it fun, that's how bad Super is.

DaveBatista

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2011-02-27 07:16:44 pm

Yoshi is back

tbob is exclaiming something that doesn't need to be. I don't think thats why people hack it. I think they hack it because its hackable and they want to display a fun little thing for others.

sabata2

2011-02-27 07:18:05 pm

ANKOKU

Dave, you're the one that brought up "You can't hack it" as a reason for one being better than the other.

Also, you're replying to Tbob wrong. There's one and only one response, at any time that deems a response, to any comment Tbob makes.

UchihaSasuke

2011-02-27 08:39:47 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

Quote from arkarian:

nah i like corruption less than echoze.

that's news to me. i always thought mp2 was at the bottom of the barrel going by how much you make fun of it.
but there's also the fact mp2 gets a lot more discussion than mp3, especially lately.

tomatobob

2011-02-27 09:19:50 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Well, Echoes was easily he bigger letdown, we wanted something of Prime's caliber and got a poorly made, rushed, sort of Metroid game with a lame SA-X clone and dumb light world/dark world mechanic. There's more there to make fun of or hate on, and the bitterness from the letdown helps. Corruption has plenty of issues but its failures were sort of expected at this point given its predecessor, and it just happens to be bad in less interesting ways than Echoes, it was more generic FPS kind of bad than the Echoes style, "What is this bullshit?" kind of bad.

arkarian

2011-02-27 09:23:42 pm

red chamber dream

yeah i'd agree with that. corruption just had nothing noteworthy at all and looked fucking awful like every other wii game. lots of solid flat colors, boring linear gameplay, horrible level design, and shitty wii controls. echoes at least felt like a metroid game (albeit not a great one).

Turtle

2011-02-27 11:29:40 pm

I like turtles.

Echoes was fine. Finite Beam Ammo sucked but I liked the Light/Dark world mechanic. Also it had better graphics and visuals. It also helps that I wasn't expecting another Prime going into it, I suppose. Corruption was okay but yuck, Hypermode.

tomatobob

2011-02-27 11:39:11 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Echoes was like the most visually boring game I've ever played. The Dark World was halfway to interesting except instead of doing something good they just made everything purple and sort of worm-like. Bleh.

Aruki

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Aruki: 2011-02-28 08:02:23 am

2011-02-28 08:02:07 am

wow... that article brought up some pretty good points, lol. never thought of the story that way, but it definitely fits.

sorry for the off-topicness, let's go back to discussing how much echoes and corruption suck now.

Prime Hunter

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Prime Hunter: 2011-02-28 09:49:00 am

2011-02-28 09:47:45 am

And here I was beginning to think that Ark only liked Prime out of the entire series these days. Guess I'm slightly wrong, because he was giving ROS a little bit of praise which is more than he's giving most of them.

I still think that most of them have something worth playing them for, but obviously I'm biased with some of them and there is definitely a difference between the games as far as which ones I like more. But to me, the Metroid series is still A LOT better than a good majority of games out there, and that includes the games in the series I'd put on the bottom of my list. Hunters may be my only real exception to this rule, but when I last played it before Other M came out it was still fun. Just not as fun as the others were.

Oh, and the reason I personally started hacking Super last year was because I love the original game and wanted to put my own spin on it. Not because I wanted to make it "unboring" or more fun, but that's just Tomatobob's opinion of it. (Sure, with my own version I may be wanting to make is as fun as I can for myself, but that doesn't mean I think the original game isn't fun.) To be honest, if the other games in the series either had a bigger fanbase in the hacking world or had tools that were as easy to use as SMILE is, I might be hacking those too if I wanted to.

And here I was beginning to think that Ark only liked Prime out of the entire series these days. Guess I'm [i]slightly[/i] wrong, because he was giving ROS a little bit of praise which is more than he's giving most of them.

I still think that most of them have something worth playing them for, but obviously I'm biased with some of them and there is definitely a difference between the games as far as which ones I like more. But to me, the Metroid series is still A LOT better than a good majority of games out there, and that includes the games in the series I'd put on the bottom of my list. Hunters may be my only real exception to this rule, but when I last played it before Other M came out it was still fun. Just not as fun as the others were.

Oh, and the reason I personally started hacking Super last year was because I love the original game and wanted to put my own spin on it. Not because I wanted to make it "unboring" or more fun, but that's just Tomatobob's opinion of it. (Sure, with my own version I may be wanting to make is as fun as I can for myself, but that doesn't mean I think the original game isn't fun.) To be honest, if the other games in the series either had a bigger fanbase in the hacking world or had tools that were as easy to use as SMILE is, I might be hacking those too if I wanted to.

DaveBatista

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2011-02-28 12:03:58 pm

Yoshi is back

Quote from sabata2:

Also, you're replying to Tbob wrong. There's one and only one response, at any time that deems a response, to any comment Tbob makes.

Yes I know, its Dammit tbob, but I could care less. I'm not one of those people you can just make say that.

Quote from sabata2:

Dave, you're the one that brought up "You can't hack it" as a reason for one being better than the other.

I said you can hack SM but you can't hack M2 like you can with SM, dude you need to learn stuff. Go back to Grade 1.

On-topic: Why are people hating the prime? I like mainly all the series. To me NOTHING was really THAT wrong... aiwebs_016

sabata2

2011-02-28 03:30:55 pm

ANKOKU

Yes, you said that... In response to "Metroid 2 is better". Which means that "You can't hack M2 like SM" is your defense for why SM is a better game. Which means you brought "Hacking" into this discussion. Which is what I said.

And please do try next time to debate without having to rely on Ad Hominem attacks, okay?

On THIS topic, I read that thread in another topic here. And I'm not reading it again because I eventually hope to play Other M and Fusion again without cringing at the thought of Adam and Samus.

On the topic of Echoes and Corruption. The ammo system actually made the game unplayable for me back on the gamecube, but I enjoyed it. It wasn't as colorful as Prime or as memorable, but it was still good.
Corruption, admittedly, was the first of the series for me to actually complete. But that's because it was so damn linear and had so few puzzles it's hard NOT to beat it.

TheGreenManalishi

2011-02-28 04:09:55 pm

Let's agree that they were all better than Other M.

DaveBatista

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2011-02-28 06:22:32 pm

Yoshi is back

Quote from sabata2:

Yes, you said that... In response to "Metroid 2 is better". Which means that "You can't hack M2 like SM" is your defense for why SM is a better game. Which means you brought "Hacking" into this discussion. Which is what I said.

And please do try next time to debate without having to rely on Ad Hominem attacks, okay?

On THIS topic, I read that thread in another topic here. And I'm not reading it again because I eventually hope to play Other M and Fusion again without cringing at the thought of Adam and Samus.

On the topic of Echoes and Corruption. The ammo system actually made the game unplayable for me back on the gamecube, but I enjoyed it. It wasn't as colorful as Prime or as memorable, but it was still good.
Corruption, admittedly, was the first of the series for me to actually complete. But that's because it was so damn linear and had so few puzzles it's hard NOT to beat it.

You just want Samus for yourself. Typical male Rolling Eyes

(unlike me, I like boobs and thats it.)
Even if she is fake, somewhere in the world there IS a look alike, and you just want "A peice a' ass"
:P, I know, I'm not stupid...Altought saying what I just did needs to make me think. Think

[quote="sabata2"]Yes, you said that... In response to "Metroid 2 is better". Which means that "You can't hack M2 like SM" is your defense for why SM is a better game. Which means you brought "Hacking" into this discussion. [u]Which is what I said.[/u]

And please do try next time to debate without having to rely on Ad Hominem attacks, okay?

On THIS topic, I read that thread in another topic here. And I'm not reading it again because I eventually hope to play Other M and Fusion again without cringing at the thought of Adam and Samus.

On the topic of Echoes and Corruption. The ammo system actually made the game unplayable for me back on the gamecube, but I enjoyed it. It wasn't as colorful as Prime or as memorable, but it was still good.
Corruption, admittedly, was the first of the series for me to actually complete. But that's because it was so damn linear and had so few puzzles it's hard NOT to beat it.[/quote]

You just want Samus for yourself. Typical male :roll: (unlike me, I like boobs and thats it.)
Even if she is fake, somewhere in the world there IS a look alike, and you just want "A peice a' ass"
:P, I know, I'm not stupid...Altought saying what I just did needs to make me think.:um_orig:

sabata2

2011-02-28 07:33:58 pm

ANKOKU

Quote from TheGreenManalishi:

Let's agree that they were all better than Other M.

ehh...

I liked the gameplay of Other M more than Corruption. And I've replayed Other M, but not Corruption.

tomatobob

2011-02-28 08:29:15 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

Having replayed both, I can say I like Corruption better than Other M, but its pretty close. Neither is great or maybe even good when you get down to it. other M is certainly better on a second playthrough, as pretending 99% of the plot does not exists allows you to pretend it isn't abominable. A replay of Corruption on the other hand just sort of reveals more of its faults, namely how half of the puzzles are worse than you thought now that the novelty of pushing buttons and twisting handles has worn off, which it probably did before the end of the first run. Pull, twist, push everything forever.

I'm still a little surprised sometimes that there were people who thought Other M's story was actually a good idea though. To maintain my sanity I have to believe several people were fired for pointing out that it was possibly the worst thing ever written into a videogame. I'm not proud of this fact.

Turtle

2011-02-28 09:13:38 pm

I like turtles.

Freakin' Japanese, man. They're the best at technical stuff, but they need to leave the writing to everyone else.

arkarian

2011-02-28 09:25:23 pm

red chamber dream

yeah clearly no japanese writers are ever any good

Turtle

2011-02-28 11:43:44 pm

I like turtles.

Nope. Never. Ever.

Ever.

DaveBatista

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2011-03-01 12:51:41 pm

Yoshi is back

Ok, Turtle. We get it. Japanese suck at writing, Geez.

rekameohs

2011-03-02 02:53:10 am

Anywhere, everywhere

Quote from arkarian:

nah i like corruption less than echoze.

Man, you're fickle.

DaveBatista

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2011-03-02 08:08:34 am

Yoshi is back

Quote from Turtle:

Freakin' Japanese, man. They're the best at technical stuff, but they need to leave the writing to everyone else.

So your saying they need to hire new writers for Events and stuff? Cause I'm trying to make atleast 5 hacks, By the end of January 2021. Super Metroid: Fusion, Super Metroid: ZM, Super Metroid: Prime. and a few others.

kesvalk

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kesvalk: 2011-03-03 07:33:04 pm

2011-03-03 07:32:48 pm

Indie Lover

only reason i never replayed corruption: Mogenar

i don't want to fight him again, everything else is easy, but this guy fight is so bad, i will prolly never fiight him again...

IMHO, i like other M more than echoes...

DaveBatista

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2011-03-03 07:35:40 pm

Yoshi is back

I like Other M more then anything.