[SM] Super Metroid: Golden Dawn

2007-10-20 07:22:55 pm

Quote from ZephyrZx:

yeah i went there, but there is 2 instant respawn grapple blocks and dunno what to do there 8(

Next to those grapple blocks to the right are super missile blocks.

2007-10-20 07:27:21 pm

rofl XD

dude, i hate those ninja super missile blocks >_>

im so writing a faq of this or something, but first gotta finish it xd

PS: do you have like, a map of the whole game?

Black Telomeres

2007-10-20 07:30:58 pm

Yes. Here it is, although it's naturally massive spoilers for anyone still playing:

http://www.freewebs.com/blacktelomeres/SMGDfullmap.png

ZephyrZx

2007-10-20 07:53:47 pm

Clear time 14:08 XDD

86%, awesome xd

Nice hack dude 10/10

Saturn

2007-10-20 08:13:04 pm

Quote from Black Telomeres:

It seems your technique is even more insane than the one my playtester suggested laugh new

Mind telling what tech he suggested there? Except of some abuse of this 2 Grapple blocks I can't see any other way to pass this barrier.

And thanks for the map. It might be useful especially for those who want to attempt a 100% run.

Black Telomeres

2007-10-20 08:44:26 pm

My playtester suggested that it might be possible to jump from the little platform on the left side, shoot out the SM blocks, then fall back to the platform, jump, midair morph and begin double infinite bomb jumping and get in there. He said he wasn't able to do it though, even with slowdown or frameadvance.

Another person has said he was able to get up there early by shooting out the SM blocks, then falling to the bottom, and doing a super-short charge to fly up there and through the SM blocks before they regenerate. But he also said the timing had to be perfect and it was rather hard to do. To me, this technique sounds a bit easier though.

Fano7

2007-10-20 09:15:27 pm

Every Bit Counts

Which was the fastest?

Black Telomeres

2007-10-21 01:48:31 am

Of those techniques for getting up there? I'd imagine Saturn's looks faster than both, although the super short charge one might be close.

CymicX

2007-10-21 11:22:46 am

Mission completed!
Play time 7:54, 63%

Escaping was a bitch until the recharge station. Evil or Very Mad

Great hack anyway, I mostly enjoyed it.

ducknerd

2007-10-21 01:23:29 pm

Eschews avatars

Hrrm, just beat

Kraid. Is the room right after him supposed to be passable through? I've been bombing everything for the past 45 minutes.

Electrometer Prime

2007-10-21 02:16:13 pm

Quote from ducknerd:

Hrrm, just beat

Kraid. Is the room right after him supposed to be passable through? I've been bombing everything for the past 45 minutes.

<BlackTelomeres> your reward for beating Kraid is...a horrible, painful death
In other words, go 2 rooms leftwards and look for a flashing hatch.

Black Telomeres

2007-10-21 03:05:31 pm

Alright guys, I have an interesting extra for anyone who may feel like replaying this game in the future.

http://www.freewebs.com/blacktelomeres/Super_Metroid_-_Golden_Dawn_Hardmode.rar

It's a hardmode version of the game. Here's some of the facts about it from the readme intro:

It was inspired by my little 'speed run' of said hack - where the later bosses were exquisitely difficult because of my lack of energy tanks and some other facts but still very beatable.

E-tanks are reduced to 7 max (what I had near the end of my 'speed run'), some boss difficulty is stepped up, the occasional level design bit is altered to increase challenge, some enemies take slightly more damage, some enemies are replaced in spots with higher level enemies, and the item order is remixed a bit, closer to my original intent in places. Early items aren't in too much of a different order, but there are some later items that are in signficantly different locations.

Although keep in mind that while it's definitely harder than the normal version of this hack, it still probably isn't a match for some of the expert players around here. Still, I figured it'd be an interesting diversion.

Alright guys, I have an interesting extra for anyone who may feel like replaying this game in the future.

http://www.freewebs.com/blacktelomeres/Super_Metroid_-_Golden_Dawn_Hardmode.rar

It's a hardmode version of the game. Here's some of the facts about it from the readme intro:

It was inspired by my little 'speed run' of said hack - where the later bosses were exquisitely difficult because of my lack of energy tanks and some other facts but still very beatable.

E-tanks are reduced to 7 max (what I had near the end of my 'speed run'), some boss difficulty is stepped up, the occasional level design bit is altered to increase challenge, some enemies take slightly more damage, some enemies are replaced in spots with higher level enemies, and the item order is remixed a bit, closer to my original intent in places. Early items aren't in too much of a different order, but there are some later items that are in signficantly different locations.

Although keep in mind that while it's definitely harder than the normal version of this hack, it still probably isn't a match for some of the expert players around here. Still, I figured it'd be an interesting diversion.

Electrometer Prime

2007-10-21 06:22:59 pm

Starting thi sright away. Should be fun!

Cardweaver

2007-10-22 01:00:29 am

maybe i'm just a noob, but even with all the hints outlined so far, i'm stuck. where in the world is this eternal hall!??!

I have ice, grapple, varia, 25 supers, 80 missles, 5 E tanks, charge, bombs, morph. I assume my next key item is pbs or speed booster, but have no idea where eternal hall is, nor do i know how to get there.

Black Telomeres

2007-10-22 01:13:41 am

A passage in the Underworld from the tall walljumping room (the one directly after the tall lavarise room) will lead you to it if you take the higher route. You'll need that ice beam to freeze some enemies to get up. You'll be back in the Dark Gardens, but in a unique location that'll allow you to run to Eternal Hall.

Cardweaver

2007-10-22 01:31:02 am

ok, ive gone thru the lava room, and took the upper left passage. I'm assuming thats the "Upper" door.

The next room has some water at the bottom and enemies from reg sm maridia that deal much damage. i go up thru that door, and then left. I go down, fight the two large hopper enemies and go left again. then in this room, if i run all the way to the left, I make it under the shutter. The next room is where im stuck. I cant get thru the speed booster blocks.

the solution is probably simple, but i just cant figure it out. and im still not entirely sure which room is the eternal hall...

Electrometer Prime

2007-10-22 01:37:26 am

Quote from Cardweaver:

ok, ive gone thru the lava room, and took the upper left passage. I'm assuming thats the "Upper" door.

The next room has some water at the bottom and enemies from reg sm maridia that deal much damage. i go up thru that door, and then left. I go down, fight the two large hopper enemies and go left again. then in this room, if i run all the way to the left, I make it under the shutter. The next room is where im stuck. I cant get thru the speed booster blocks.

the solution is probably simple, but i just cant figure it out. and im still not entirely sure which room is the eternal hall...

Congrats! You are in the first room of EH. Shoot the upper blocks in the room to try and ind a way around the speed blocks.

Cardweaver

2007-10-22 01:44:08 am

thanks. i actually just found those blocks when i went to edit my post, but decided to refresh first.

a side note to Black Telomeres...

your hack can be opened with SMILE. i just found this out in a desperate attempt for help. i was just wondering if you knew. All the other hacks are encrypted somehow.

cant believe i missed that block...

Lawrence Reyome

2007-10-22 01:47:50 am

Metroid Exp: Exploration - Great, Skills - Decent

Actually no, the only two that are encrypted are Redesign and Impossible, but thats not what this topic is for

Cardweaver

2007-10-22 04:24:17 pm

sorry. i just assumed that all of them were encrypted. the only other two i've played were impossible and redesign.

the real problem is that i cannot find the powerbombs!
[spoiler]I just found the hidden elevator, but im not entirely sure of where to go next. and, i think that its awesome that spore spawn was about 5 times harder than phantoon.

this hack is awesome!

Black Telomeres

2007-10-22 06:15:40 pm

Hm, did you find

Kraid? The PBs aren't too far away from him, but they're not in the direction you'd suspect. Or maybe you're still in the blue area? If so, go as high as you can. Actually, in both of these cases, looking to the ceiling is the key.

Cardweaver

2007-10-22 08:12:18 pm

yeah i found them.

also, the room after kraid, or, as i like to think of it, the room of misleading hazards, is a right pain. died thrice before i realized it wasn't the right way. just got the high jump boots and now im off to explore some more. oh, does the silver chozo in high command actually serve a purpose?

Lawrence Reyome

2007-10-22 08:16:12 pm

Metroid Exp: Exploration - Great, Skills - Decent

Quote from Cardweaver:

yeah i found them.

also, the room after kraid, or, as i like to think of it, the room of misleading hazards, is a right pain. died thrice before i realized it wasn't the right way. just got the high jump boots and now im off to explore some more. oh, does the silver chozo in high command actually serve a purpose?

Quote from Black Telomeres:

<BlackTelomeres> your reward for beating Kraid is...a horrible, painful death

ie, DO NOT GO RIGHT AFTER BEATING HIM

And the silver Chozo is not in High Command, that is a glitched up map. It is still part of Dark Gardens. You have to think back to WS in Super Metroid. To get there you have to

Get across the spikes, go in the top left door, turn and open it, go partway down the path, and SB through the door, causing the SB block to melt and you fall down. Use your grapple to get to the statue.

Do the same thing you do in the WS one in Super Metroid. Once that sequence is done and he drops you,

go back up top and fall through the hole again.

Get over to where the statue was, and bomb the wall to get the

Spazer.

[quote="Cardweaver"]yeah i found them.
[spoiler]also, the room after kraid, or, as i like to think of it, the room of misleading hazards, is a right pain. died thrice before i realized it wasn't the right way. just got the high jump boots and now im off to explore some more. oh, does the silver chozo in high command actually serve a purpose?[/spoiler][/quote]

[quote="Black Telomeres"]
<BlackTelomeres> your reward for beating Kraid is...a horrible, painful death[/quote]

ie, DO NOT GO RIGHT AFTER BEATING HIM

And the silver Chozo is not in High Command, that is a glitched up map. It is still part of Dark Gardens. You have to think back to WS in Super Metroid. To get there you have to

[spoiler]Get across the spikes, go in the top left door, turn and open it, go partway down the path, and SB through the door, causing the SB block to melt and you fall down. Use your grapple to get to the statue.[/spoiler] Do the same thing you do in the WS one in Super Metroid. Once that sequence is done and he drops you, [spoiler]go back up top and fall through the hole again.[/spoiler] Get over to where the statue was, and bomb the wall to get the [spoiler]Spazer.[/spoiler]

bulldog0246

2007-10-22 10:39:43 pm

hey black im stuck on the easy version of it

I have :

4 energy packs, 20 supers, 55 missiles, grapple beam,charge,ice varia, morph and bombs

i have no idea where to go now i have searched everywhere i can think of i have gone threw lower underworld like 4 times and tetra like 2 times er so can u help?

Lawrence Reyome

2007-10-22 10:57:55 pm

Metroid Exp: Exploration - Great, Skills - Decent

Quote from bulldog0246:

hey black im stuck on the easy version of it

I have :

4 energy packs, 20 supers, 55 missiles, grapple beam,charge,ice varia, morph and bombs

i have no idea where to go now i have searched everywhere i can think of i have gone threw lower underworld like 4 times and tetra like 2 times er so can u help?

Have you tried the

door on the top left of the large wall jump room after the semi-fast acid rise room. Going to the left in that then freezing the bugs and entering the door at the top should put you in an area you been in, but in a new path. Hit the barrier trigger and run across the bridge till you get to the next door facing left. This will bring you to Eternal Hall.