[SM] Super Metroid: Precision [E]

2008-09-20 02:40:09 pm

Glitch through ceiling? Isn't that like SJ into a 2 pixel high opening and pressing down just before you land? Because Samus' sprite is 3 pixels high so her head goes through the ceiling and you just jump? Everytime I try she just recrouches again...

@Opium:

It takes a VERY Precise wall jump with a running start next to the grey door. It can only be done so that when you do the walljump the water in the room is at it's lowest point. It's tough I know......

Cpadolf

2008-09-20 02:44:19 pm

Almost happy

Quote from TAxxOUTBR3AKxx :

Glitch through ceiling? Isn't that like SJ into a 2 pixel high opening and pressing down just before you land? Because Samus' sprite is 3 pixels high so her head goes through the ceiling and you just jump? Everytime I try she just recrouches again...

You have to be close to the roof when doing it, and press up L or R, not down (I think that should be better anyway).

Bolognab

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Bolognab: 2008-09-20 03:07:36 pm

2008-09-20 02:51:53 pm

I'm offended you guys are so quick to assume there's a perma-stuck. There are NO game crashing errors. I've tested the game extensively...

For the red brinstar shaft:

You charge a shinespark in the hidden passage to the right of the elevator and then ride the elevator with the shinespark charged.

The red brinstar shaft is not pixel perfect at all. Just use a quick charge and it's easily doable.

@Cpadolf: You need another etank/rtank
@taxx:6 etanks? uhhhh

Cpadolf

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Cpadolf: 2008-09-20 03:17:37 pm

2008-09-20 03:12:00 pm

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Quote from Bolognab:

@Cpadolf: You need another etank/rtank

Yay itemhunt :|

Also, SB?

EDIT: Yes! I knew I could get myeslf perma stuck if I just wanted to laugh new

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TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

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TAxxOUTBR3AKxx: 2008-09-20 04:13:39 pm

2008-09-20 03:43:07 pm

Yea, my brother jumped on it for a bit cause i was getting frustrated with the lava run before crocomire. So he decided to edit the save state I had and added either 1 or 2 e-tanks....i didn't appreciate that at all.

@Cpadolf: uh...ur stuck? i'm where u were with no Super Missiles? I have a feeling I'm digging myself into a deeper hole

Cpadolf

2008-09-20 04:18:34 pm

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I went back there after I got supers (you don't the first time), and opened the gate backwards. If you continiue onward you can get into places where you get stuck forever. You are just supposed to go to WS.

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

2008-09-20 04:22:43 pm

Wow, these pixel perfect jumps are driving me nuts Evil or Very Mad

i can't seem to retain SB speed through the booster blocks in the water room to the right of the LS

Bolognab

2008-09-20 04:31:57 pm

There's a process for every one of these jumps that makes them very easy after you practice a few times:

Start from the far left, quick charge, spinjump to the ledge before the door and spinjump through it. When you are in the water room you should be spinning in midair, and when you are right in front of the SB blocks, press up and then press jump & left arrow key.

It's painfully easy after a few tries.

Gaius_4

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Gaius_4: 2008-09-20 07:37:05 pm

2008-09-20 06:42:55 pm

I know you said it's not required to do horizontal bomb jumps... But I don't see any other way to get to Kraid -or

his area due to the water. Unless it involves a tricky machball maneuver.

Or am I missing an item?
I have missle and charge beam, bomb and morphball -of course.

edit: ~~Besides... I can't seem to get out of that water anyway.~~ edit2: Yes I can. extra_smug

Bolognab

2008-09-20 07:06:18 pm

Wall jump!

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

2008-09-20 10:38:16 pm

@Gaius_4:

You need to get a running start and like Bolognab said, walljump, but the water should be at it's lowest level when performing the walljump so there is a larger margin for error in your part.

Opium

2008-09-21 12:14:22 am

About this getting to Kraid business:

I've been trying this pixel perfect wall jump with the water at its lowest at least 200 times. When I hit the ledge that I need to do the wall jump on, I'm still touching the water even when its at its lowest point!

So basically I'm giving up on this hack. When I read that it wasn't quite as hard as CH original version I went ahead and started playing it, and really had no problems up until this Kraid entry. In my memory there are no places in original CH where I tried to do a move 200 times. So based on this one room, I'm turning this one off.

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

2008-09-21 01:11:03 am

Well, Opium, maybe he will make an easier version of this hack....i was afraid that some of these tough walljumping areas would turn players away...oh and the spikes as well.

I would highly suggest that if you want to get through it, with his permission, to edit a couple ledges into some places where these walljumping areas are giving you problems. The hack i've had issues with some spots, but I won't give up just because this is one of the best Half-hacks i've ever played. Don't give up and stick with it.

I finally got that water room SB part done.....thats what im starting to notice about this hack. Not only is it Precisive, but the puzzles with them you can approach from many different angles, but it's always the least noticeable angle that you can't figure out until you stop and think.

Thanks Bologna, for stepping it up a notch with the difficulty, but not getting us killed in the process.

Opium

2008-09-21 01:32:58 am

I think I need to affirm that I don't think this hack sucks, its just beyond my skill/patience level. As far as editing the ledge goes, I dont know how to do that. Im glad that I dont know how because I consider editing the ROM to be a level of cheating thats far beyond slow-down. (thats my opinion and only applies to myself, no flamage please) If Im going to beat a game then Im going to do it as the designer(s) intended.

I would definitely be interested in an easy version of this hack, one that requires less 'precision', but that might not really be what this hack is about. I see alot of newer hacks falling into an excessive difficulty level. This is understandable since they're being created by people who are very skilled at the game. For me personally I think that CH original version pushed the limits of my skill level. The level I much prefer is CH easy version or Redesign. The fun kind of stops for me when Ive reloaded a save state over & over & over.

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

2008-09-21 01:43:25 am

That's completely understandable......but the only thing that is going to keep me from finishing this game is breaking this $15 walmart controller.lol. Just take a breather, come back to it when you are ready and everything will be ok. Hell I thought that wall jump up to the room before Spore Spawn was harder.....if that says anything. you may be thinking too much into it. I know I'm worse at gaming when I get frustrated.

Gaius_4

2008-09-21 02:08:07 am

I'm in the exact same... "boat" with the water and ledge to Kraid.

I will say this. Very Happy

This hack is the first time I did a hbj from a wall jump -which was to get up to Spore Spawn. In CH I wasn't as good and always did an ibj.

And I've tried a LOT to sequence break the original SM to get to the Wrecked Ship by diagonal bomb jumping across the missile lake. Looks like I can practice that here for getting to Kraid. :P

Opium

2008-09-21 02:10:55 am

well im basically dashing all the way from the base of the vertical grey door right as the water reaches its apex. Then I jump at the end of the ledge, but not so high that I hit the ceiling and run into the overhanging block. When I spin-jump into the blue block that I need to wall jump off of, Im already touching the water even though its at its lowest point. So maybe someone can tell me what im doing wrong - im not sure if its the way im jumping or the way im timing the water. A video would be best - although not in .smv format because i don't use SNES9X.

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

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TAxxOUTBR3AKxx: 2008-09-21 04:23:29 am

2008-09-21 04:00:52 am

I've finally gotten

my Super Missiles in Wrecked Ship!! Made my way back down towards Maridia/Norfair.

Need some new beams and more missiles.lol.

Edit: @Opium: here ya go it's attached to this post. .Zm9 and I didn't have a recent so I just started fresh and save state hacked it so I could get down there to help you out. Hope this helps.

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Super Metroid Precision.zm9

Cpadolf

2008-09-21 09:50:28 am

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Okay:

Is LN supposed to be done suitless, and if not where is varia? Just got spazer and I have 7 E-tanks and 1 R-tank.

Bolognab

2008-09-21 10:57:17 am

Just go there Wink

your equipmentss are correct

Cpadolf

2008-09-21 11:37:30 am

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So then Im supposed to Crystal flahs... Because I only have 10 PB's <_<

Bolognab

2008-09-21 11:40:23 am

I probably should have made them out in the open, but:

the kihunter room in kraid's lair has one

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

2008-09-21 01:09:12 pm

Woot! Good thing I just picked that one up!! I removed 2 e-tanks from my inventory, since my bro added them, now I actually have 6 e-tanks, 1 r-tank, 30 Missiles, 15 SM, and 15 PB. Where in the world is Gravity Suit? I'm guessing somewhere in Maridia....but

Zhs2

2008-09-21 01:19:38 pm

Yo.

Quote from TAxxOUTBR3AKxx:

....but

The suspense is killing me.

ON TOPIC: Not touching this hack. I hate precision gaming in general, so it's nothing personal.

Sturmvogel Prime

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Sturmvogel Prime: 2008-09-21 01:59:37 pm

2008-09-21 01:56:59 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

I'm stucked, i can't find the Power Bombs