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I like Big Butts and I can not lie
nah, you only have to hit it once
Darn.  Well then, I'll just ignore the existence of the Charge Beamst.
Bangaa Bishop
to me, nbmb simply means you dont defeat the boss and collect it's item. I dont see any problem with enteting the room of a boss if you dont kill it.
That's my thinking.
Whoops, sorry. My bad, I was sure he'd just left. o_O
Speedrunner
I think this challenge is very easy. It is very easy collect lot early item, if you can made perfect bomb jump and wall jump. No problem for me. 

Super Metroid No boss/miniboss challenge is pure hell. No human challenge, only expect Red Scarlet.
Well, there's this one item in this game in NB/MB that's very difficult to get.  It's a missile tank in Kraid on top of a lot of crumble blocks.

But yeah, Super Metroid NB/MB would be much harder were I to try it.
Speedrunner
Well this crumble block was pretty irritating, but not hard. Took almost 45 seconds to get.

Super Metroid items, almost all items is harder get than Zero Mission crumble block missile expansion.

EDIT: actually there are two crumble room expansions and both expansions is hard to get.

Hardest one is in 4 zapper room expansion without ziplines.

EDIT 2: i see 4 zapper room expansion is impossible get. I not can jump enought high. Looks possible, but it impossible.

EDIT: i complete that easy challenge.
-135 missile
-3 energy tank (you can get 4 energy tank if you less one missile exapnsion)
-Lot main items.

I not know forget i something, but i think this is max items, without killing any bosses and minibosses. Norfair lava room missile expansion is impossible get because i have only 2 energy tank max, probably if i have 4-6 energy tank it is possible.
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
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EDIT 2: i see 4 zapper room expansion is impossible get. I not can jump enought high. Looks possible, but it impossible.

You can jump high enough by freezing an enemy in mid-air  :P
Speedrunner
Oh thanks. This sounds good. I try that.
Quote from MASTER-88:

Super Metroid No boss/miniboss challenge is pure hell. No human challenge, only expect Red Scarlet.


No, it DEFINITELY isn´t! If you want to do it with 72% it is almost easy! But 73 % would be quite hard because of that power bomb!

Now to zero mission:(read it carefully!)

MAX nbmb % is 46% ( 160 missiles and 4 e-tanks)i read it of gamefaqs.com

I didn´t know that the e-tank of the ACID WORM is gettable without fighting him!
And i didn´t know that the missile expansion of norfair is obtainable( It´s in the same lava pool as the power bomb expansion is!)

P.S. : In a room near Kraid there´s a missile expansion! If you get it, you have full 46% but you´re not able to leave: You would have had to kill Acid worm before, or you would need to kill Kraid to leave, otherwise you´re stuck! However, after it you could kill Kraid, but DO NOT save there if you haven´t full % !
Speedrunner
I finally complete Kraid lair 4 zapper room expansion trick.

IT WAS REALLY REALLY REALLY DIFFICULT. Took almost 45 minutes. I hate spider enemy, every time it moved different place. That was pure lucky.

How hell you can have 160 missiles? I can have 140 now.

EDIT: i get energy tank and get out Acid worm room. Thanks MR:X.
Still i wondering you have 4 missile expansion more than me.

EDIT: Norfair pool sounds possible, but i need at least 4 energy tank, probably i get that next, but you have three more expansions yet.
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
You can get the Norfair Pool Energy Tank with 2 Energy Tanks  :P

and there's no way of getting the Enegy Tank in the Zip Activation Room and not fight Acid Worm Rolling Eyes
Speedrunner
I get energy tank in zip line room, but i not acticvation zipline. Acid worm not appeared if you not activated zip lines.

Just i get Norfair lava pool missile expansion, i lose 3 energy tanks.

I have 145 missiles now, i can get one missile expansion in Kraid lair, but i not can back here. I planned get that expansion last in the game.

I need find two more mystery missile expansions yet.
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
Do you have Varia Suit?
Speedrunner
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Do you have Varia Suit?


Yes i have.

MR:X is probably wrong. He say 160 missile is max. Gamefaqs said 150 missile is max:

Gamefaqs wrote:

45%/46% in Normal, 44%/45% in Hard?

30/29  Missile Tanks 150/58 Missiles Total
    4  Energy Tanks  499/299 Energy Total
    1  Morph Ball
    1  Long Beam
    1  Normal Bomb
    1  Unknown Item #1
    1  Unknown Item #2
    1  Power Grip
    1  Ice Beam
    1  Hi-Jump
    1  Varia
    1  Screw Attack
    1  Wave Beam
    1  Charge Beam (optional)

I have all possible items.
Quote from MASTER-88:

MR:X is probably wrong.


1. That´s right!
2. My name is MR.X and not MR:X
3. i DO NOT have all items, i only gave the tips i read!
4. That seems to be the end of this topic! And a nbmb is way too easy on mzm!
5.Why getting charge beam? You´d have to kill the charge beamst for it!
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
I can do it with 2 tanks extra_smug
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Speedrunner
Quote from P.JMan:
I can do it with 2 tanks extra_smug


TAS?
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
no,
you can see there's zero rerecords in the movie file
Quote from P.JMan:
no,
you can see there's zero rerecords in the movie file

That reminds me, I hear someone found the Hexadecimal address from a VBM movie file where the rerecord count is stored.
hey,all the way up there p.jman said that:
Moon jump code is
74000130 03FE
830013EC 7FFF
how the "beep" do I use it :-s
If you have VisualBoyAdvance, open up the zero mission rom, click on cheats, then cheat list. From there, click on codebreaker, then copy the code into the code dialog box. Click ok and it should work.
I like Big Butts and I can not lie
it's not really Moon Jump as such, you press A and you rise up (even when you fall)

but you have to only press A, you cant press A + B or A + Up without making the code 774,840,978 lines long (I think)
but i only have the console, not the emulator