lock-on free-aim: yes or no? **SPOILERS**

2007-12-27 10:12:01 pm

Are there benefits to using this? Overall, I like lock-on free-aim to be turned off, so I can lock on and know that if I shoot it will hit what I'm aiming at. If you need to precision aim, you can just aim with out locking on. This is what is making sense to me so far, as I'm learning the Wii controls (and adjusting to the hand/wrist cramps!). What are your guys' opinions on lock-on free-aim?

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rekameohs

2007-12-27 10:20:08 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

That's one of MP3's new features that is best. It is certainly better than doing the lock-on system of the other 2, so I don't know why anyone would want to turn it off.

arkarian

2007-12-27 10:25:05 pm

red chamber dream

Eh, I liked the lock–on system in the first two Primes, but I never used it in Corruption. The free–aim worked just fine for me, so I never bothered trying the old way again.

Metakraid

2007-12-27 10:26:11 pm

Quote from rekameohs:

That's one of MP3's new features that is best. It is certainly better than doing the lock-on system of the other 2, so I don't know why anyone would want to turn it off.

I don't play FPS's at all, but I played MP 1 and 2 extensively. So I'm used to being able to lock on and fire, with no aiming required. I guess having lock-on free-aim turned off is for people like me who are Metroid Prime junkies, but don't play FPS's.

arkarian

2007-12-27 10:29:45 pm

red chamber dream

Eh, I don't play (or even like) FPSs, either. Prime was the first first–person shooting game I had played for any significant amount of time in years, yet I still got used to (and really like) Corruption's free–aim controls. Give them a shot; I promise they're way easier to learn than dual–analog controls in FPSs like Halo, which suck arse.

Metakraid

2007-12-27 11:10:52 pm

Quote from Arkarian:

Eh, I don't play (or even like) FPSs, either. Prime was the first first–person shooting game I had played for any significant amount of time in years, yet I still got used to (and really like) Corruption's free–aim controls. Give them a shot; I promise they're way easier to learn than dual–analog controls in FPSs like Halo, which suck arse.

I'm not using lock-on free-aim because i don't like dual analog controls. It's because I like the lock on system of Metroid Prime 1 and 2, which is the same as lock-on free-aim being off.

Ntsc

2007-12-28 12:13:21 am

I hardly even used the lock on feature near the end of the game and rarely on my second and third play through. With the wii controls you don't really need lockon.

I'd recommend leaving the lock-on free-aim on though because if you have it off you'll have trouble dealing any damage to most things since they move so quickly.

Metakraid

2007-12-28 12:39:29 am

Quote from Ntsc:

I hardly even used the lock on feature near the end of the game and rarely on my second and third play through. With the wii controls you don't really need lockon.

I'd recommend leaving the lock-on free-aim on though because if you have it off you'll have trouble dealing any damage to most things since they move so quickly.

It is kind of confusing to me, because i'm so used to traditional MP controls.. It almost seems like it would have been better to not have lock on at all in Corruption. I guess i just don't get the point of locking on to an enemy AND having to aim at them. it's like having to aim twice!

Metakraid

2007-12-28 12:28:47 pm

The main advantage of using lock-on free-aim is that you can lock on, but still be able to precision aim while locked on. So far while I've been playing, there haven't been any points when I need to be able to do this. Are there battles that come later in the game when I will need to be able to precision aim to the enemy I'm locked on to?

Mr. Shadow

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2007-12-28 12:34:27 pm

OH ****!!!!

O_O How far in the game are you? You should have used it against your first boss.

Metakraid

2007-12-28 01:00:17 pm

Quote from Mr. Shadow:

O_O How far in the game are you? You should have used it against your first boss.

I know you had to precision aim at the shoulders of berserker lord, but i actually found it more difficult to lock on and aim. I found it easier to not lock on at all, but just move around and aim with the wiimote. Although I probably died the first time because I wasnt lock-on straffing.
I think maybe my issue is that i need to get used to the controls. Everyone praises how well done the aiming is with the wiimote, how revolutionary it is. I guess I need to embrace it, rather than clinging to the control scheme of MP 1 and 2.. :|

MASTER-88

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MASTER-88: 2007-12-28 02:14:00 pm

2007-12-28 02:10:01 pm

Speedrunner

I put that freeaim off.

Still that Corruption weapon lock system suck. This not want grap any target. I have real trouble beat that Mogenar fight first time. Hyper mode don,t want grap with target.

I like much two previous prime lock system. Workin very well.

Still probably lock on/freeaim off is bit better than free fire itself IMO.

Metakraid

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Metakraid: 2007-12-28 04:23:39 pm

2007-12-28 04:01:05 pm

I noticed too the lock doesn't "stick" as well as the past prime games. When I was fighting the berserker lord. I'd strafe around while locked, and he'd be stuck to my side. It was really annoying, seemed like a glitch or something..

Doesn't anyone here play with the lock-on free-aim turned off?, so you can lock on and kill the normal enemies, and you can still precision aim (but not lock on) when you need to for bosses.

arkarian

2007-12-28 06:30:35 pm

red chamber dream

'Kay, if you're gonna post spoilers you need to mark them as such.

Changed the topic to warn for spoilers.

rekameohs

2007-12-28 07:16:54 pm

Anywhere, everywhere

Quote from MASTER-88:

I put that freeaim off.

Still that Corruption weapon lock system suck. This not want grap any target. I have real trouble beat that Mogenar fight first time. Hyper mode don,t want grap with target.

I like much two previous prime lock system. Workin very well.

Still probably lock on/freeaim off is bit better than free fire itself IMO.

You only think that because you're used to the other two. Trust me and stick with it; you'll eventually never want to go back.

UchihaSasuke

2007-12-28 07:33:56 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

you have to aim at bosses while locked on even with lock-on free-aim off.

for regular enemies, i prefer the old system. the beams are rather weak so it sucks to miss shots randomly. i like to have all the shots land where i am locked.

i also hate how the lock-on seems weaker here. in the old games you only lost lock on by going very far or getting hit. here you can lose it while strafing. annoying when you are just barely dodging and you get hit because the lock failed.

imo free aim would have been used a lot more if lock on was gone but then making the camera stay at an angle and free aim would have been more problematic (well, maybe not if they just disabled locking-on and the other Z button functions stayed the same)

Metakraid

2007-12-28 09:55:10 pm

Quote from PiccoloCube:

you have to aim at bosses while locked on even with lock-on free-aim off.

for regular enemies, i prefer the old system. the beams are rather weak so it sucks to miss shots randomly. i like to have all the shots land where i am locked.

I agree, so can't you leave the lock-on free-aim off so you can lock onto standard enemies like the first two Primes, and just manually aim for bosses like you also had to for Primes 1 and 2 ?

UchihaSasuke

2007-12-29 03:55:43 am

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

if i read that well, lock-on free-aim off does that since you still free-aim the bosses.

if not, then you can't aim at bosses like in mp1/mp2. these ones don't have a central weak point like the old ones (the lock doesn't pick weak points like in the old games).

Metakraid

2007-12-29 12:07:50 pm

I guess it's best to get used to lock-on free-aim being on then. It seems like maybe retro just shouldn't have given the option to turn it off. They should have made weak points on all the standard enemies then, so you have incentive to do the additional precision aiming - like head shots doing more damage..

Mr. Shadow

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2007-12-30 10:34:36 am

OH ****!!!!

You can do that like with [spoil]commando priates were you aim at their head with the nova beam[/spoil].

Metakraid

2007-12-30 02:10:45 pm

Quote from Mr. Shadow:

You can do that like with [spoil]commando priates were you aim at their head with the nova beam[/spoil].

So does it pay to aim at enemies heads in this game? I assumed it was like the other Primes where there is no spot that does extra damage.

Ntsc

2007-12-31 04:18:38 am

Quote from Metakraid:

So does it pay to aim at enemies heads in this game? I assumed it was like the other Primes where there is no spot that does extra damage.

Mmm read my spoiler if you want to know why.

When you have the nova beam you can shoot through weak spots in armor. On most creatures the weakspot is over the brain and leads to an instant death if hit correctly. Only effects like a total of 5 creatures in the game. Pirate commands, Omega Ridly, Metroids, and some others I can't remember right now.

Still waiting for someone with an AR or hacked save state to tell me if it is possible to 1 hit with the nova beam if you don't have the xray visor

Metakraid

2007-12-31 02:41:20 pm

Quote from Ntsc:

Quote from Metakraid:

So does it pay to aim at enemies heads in this game? I assumed it was like the other Primes where there is no spot that does extra damage.

Mmm read my spoiler if you want to know why.

When you have the nova beam you can shoot through weak spots in armor. On most creatures the weakspot is over the brain and leads to an instant death if hit correctly. Only effects like a total of 5 creatures in the game. Pirate commands, Omega Ridly, Metroids, and some others I can't remember right now.

Still waiting for someone with an AR or hacked save state to tell me if it is possible to 1 hit with the nova beam if you don't have the xray visor

If you don't aim at their heads with that beam, how many shots does it take? And are you doing a charged beam shot?

Mr. Shadow

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2007-12-31 03:34:12 pm

OH ****!!!!

Quote from Ntsc:

Quote from Metakraid:

So does it pay to aim at enemies heads in this game? I assumed it was like the other Primes where there is no spot that does extra damage.

Mmm read my spoiler if you want to know why.

When you have the nova beam you can shoot through weak spots in armor. On most creatures the weakspot is over the brain and leads to an instant death if hit correctly. Only effects like a total of 5 creatures in the game. Pirate commands, Omega Ridly, Metroids, and some others I can't remember right now.

Still waiting for someone with an AR or hacked save state to tell me if it is possible to 1 hit with the nova beam if you don't have the xray visor

You kidding me? I proved that it can be done already by just simply not using it. It can only be done on commandos though and with my bad aiming they die in like 4 hits. If i perfect my aiming i'm sure i can be able to hit it with one shot. aiwebs_008

Metakraid

2007-12-31 03:54:47 pm

Quote from Mr. Shadow:

Quote from Ntsc:

Quote from Metakraid:

So does it pay to aim at enemies heads in this game? I assumed it was like the other Primes where there is no spot that does extra damage.

Mmm read my spoiler if you want to know why.

When you have the nova beam you can shoot through weak spots in armor. On most creatures the weakspot is over the brain and leads to an instant death if hit correctly. Only effects like a total of 5 creatures in the game. Pirate commands, Omega Ridly, Metroids, and some others I can't remember right now.

Still waiting for someone with an AR or hacked save state to tell me if it is possible to 1 hit with the nova beam if you don't have the xray visor

You kidding me? I proved that it can be done already by just simply not using it. It can only be done on commandos though and with my bad aiming they die in like 4 hits. If i perfect my aiming i'm sure i can be able to hit it with one shot. aiwebs_008

What do you mean? You don't have to manually aim at their heads, you just lock on and they die in 1 hit?

[quote="Mr. Shadow"]
[quote="Ntsc"]
[quote="Metakraid"]
So does it pay to aim at enemies heads in this game?  I assumed it was like the other Primes where there is no spot that does extra damage.
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Mmm read my spoiler if you want to know why.

[spoiler]When you have the nova beam you can shoot through weak spots in armor. On most creatures the weakspot is over the brain and leads to an instant death if hit correctly. Only effects like a total of 5 creatures in the game. Pirate commands, Omega Ridly, Metroids, and some others I can't remember right now.

Still waiting for someone with an AR or hacked save state to tell me if it is possible to 1 hit with the nova beam if you don't have the xray visor[/spoiler]
[/quote]

You kidding me? I proved that it can be done already by just simply not using it. It can only be done on commandos though and with my bad aiming they die in like 4 hits. If i perfect my aiming i'm sure i can be able to hit it [b]with one shot[/b]. [aiwebs_008]
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What do you mean?  You don't have to manually aim at their heads, you just lock on and they die in 1 hit?