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Kejardon
Kejardon
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Kejardon: 2010-07-22 04:38:20 pm
2010-07-22 04:38:06 pm
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I switched to testing it on PAL. It's not a PAL only thing.
If you're hitting the ledge, you're not doing a standing shinespark. Try listening carefully. If you hear the start of a spinjump you jumped too early and may hit the ledge.
Behemoth
Behemoth
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Behemoth: 2010-07-22 04:46:50 pm
2010-07-22 04:43:53 pm
Surely if you've let go of direction, pressed and held R and your stopping, then pressing jump to activate shinespark means there will be no spin jump. So I run, split second let go of direction, hit and hold R and then jump, for the shinespark. All this takes place in less than quarter of a second. well the R and jump is.
Kejardon
2010-07-22 04:47:02 pm
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What do you have against admitting you're doing spinjumps? Have you tried listening for the spinjump sound?
Also, holding R before you let go of the direction is faster.
072
2010-07-22 04:48:51 pm
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I thought L / R without a direction held stops you completely on the first frame.
Kejardon
2010-07-22 04:50:39 pm
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Yes. Which means you should already be pressing L/R when you let go of the direction, not press it after. Unless I misunderstood and that's what Behemoth is doing already.
Quietus
2010-07-22 04:53:31 pm
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It sounds to me like he's running, releasing and (quickly) pressing R followed (almost) immediately by jump, which is the standard sequence of commands for the diagonal spark.
Behemoth
2010-07-22 04:55:12 pm
I have nothing against it. The escape music and explosions sounds really dont help for listening out for it for something so minute... as you know when you let go of direction after running samus will slow to a halt on her own and I press R within that part, but only just after I let go of direction. then its followed by jump, all within a very tight time frame.
072
2010-07-22 04:57:22 pm
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You may be pressing jump slightly before R, which would result in a barely-noticeable spin jump first.
Behemoth
2010-07-22 04:59:09 pm
but im not though because it would mean pressing jump again to shinespark. which Im certainly not doing. Anyway this is all probably pointless trying to figure out what's going on here.
072
2010-07-22 04:59:29 pm
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Nah, because you'd still be holding it in.
Kejardon
Kejardon
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Kejardon: 2010-07-22 05:00:33 pm
2010-07-22 05:00:02 pm
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Quote from Behemoth:
Anyway this is all probably pointless trying to figure out what's going on here.

Yes. Because we already know. You're doing spinjumps before your shinesparks.
Quote from 072:
Nah, because you'd still be holding it in.

Oh cool that actually worked. <3 Taiga
Behemoth
2010-07-22 05:00:53 pm
no no no ive let go of R. im saying its pointless because this is turning into a hairy situation
Kejardon
2010-07-22 05:01:58 pm
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If you let go of R by the time you hit jump you wouldn't do a diagonal shinespark.
072
2010-07-22 05:02:35 pm
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Quote from Kejardon:
Oh cool that actually worked. <3 Taiga

What actually worked? >_>
Kejardon
2010-07-22 05:03:17 pm
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I decided after I posted I wanted to quote yours for emphasis. I clicked the edit button on my post, then clicked the quote button on your post and it put the quote in the edit post rather than a new post.
072
2010-07-22 05:03:38 pm
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Oh, cool. Taiga ftw
Behemoth
2010-07-22 05:05:33 pm
let me make this clear. Jump is the last button I'm pressing after still holding R
Kejardon
2010-07-22 05:06:17 pm
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let me make this clear. You're still doing spinjumps.
072
2010-07-22 05:06:52 pm
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Why don't you just show us an smv? :P
Kejardon
2010-07-22 05:06:56 pm
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Because you aren't in a still pose yet.
Behemoth
2010-07-22 05:09:47 pm
So what your saying is. If i'm still stopping by the stop on a dime trick, then a spin jump will occur. it doesnt. I just tried it. coz R is being held followed by jump
Behemoth
Behemoth
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Behemoth: 2010-07-22 05:13:56 pm
2010-07-22 05:10:10 pm
remember dash has been released

dash has been released before pressing down for the flash for the shinespark. so when i begin running Im going default speed when you just press direction. this is key to what I'm talking about. uugggghhhhhh
Kejardon
Kejardon
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Kejardon: 2010-07-22 05:15:37 pm
Kejardon: 2010-07-22 05:14:06 pm
2010-07-22 05:11:46 pm
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Quote from Kejardon:
What do you have against admitting you're doing spinjumps? Have you tried listening for the spinjump sound?
Quote from Behemoth:
I have nothing against it.

This is clearly a lie.
Do you want me to take the code apart and show you why you're still doing a spinjump?

also
Quote from Behemoth:
So what your saying is. If i'm still stopping by the stop on a dime trick, then a spin jump will occur. it doesnt.
Yes, this is what I'm saying. Yes, it does. It doesn't matter much that it only lasts for a single frame and you have to listen for the sound to even tell that it happened, it still happened.
Quote from Behemoth:
dash has been released before pressing down for the flash for the shinespark. so when i begin running Im going default speed when you just press direction. this is key to what I'm talking about.
Dash has no importance whatsoever.
Behemoth
Behemoth
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Behemoth: 2010-07-22 05:23:30 pm
Behemoth: 2010-07-22 05:17:35 pm
2010-07-22 05:17:18 pm
heres an smv of the priciple of what Im doing for the shinespark on the escape

snes9x 1.43

direction has been released, then R and hold it and jump
attachment:
meh.smv