Current Any% Route

2013-10-03 01:29:24 am

Does anyone have a write-up of the current Any% route? I haven't run this game in a couple years, and it looks like things have changed a good bit since then.

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kirbymastah

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kirbymastah: 2013-10-03 10:13:59 am

2013-10-03 10:13:07 am

Current fastest any% route, and record by milessmb -

The early sun route, aka the "safe" route -

The early sun route is a route that mp1 runners nowadays start with. It doesn't involve IBBF, spider climbs, nor thardus dash, so there isn't really anything that's runkilling or really difficult (besides early wild, but that's honestly easy)

you can also see the early sun route used if you watch streams by twitch.tv/kirbymastah twitch.tv/cozysrs twitch.tv/esibun twitch.tv/itspersonnaltoo

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 01:40:14 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

I got a crazy route change idea for a TAS which is
Frigate 1
Frigate 2
Leftward space jump
Missle morph ball charge bombs
IBBF
Flaghra
Early wild
Magmoor first artifact
Early Plasma
Last Magmoor artifact
Head to phendrana drifts for boost ball then wave then artifact
Then head through phendrana drifts for the remaining two artifacts plus thermal visor
Head straight to elevator leading to the back entrance to phazon mines
Phazon mines secret world leading to early omega pirate
Backtrack for phazon artifact then head back to travel to last phazon mines artifact
Head to mine entrance to get to get life grove artifact
Then get chozo artifact
Then get lady chozo artifact travel down chozo to Tallon IV
Ship save/ don't save since TAS then Ridley and prime
Endgame ... Profit !!!!

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 01:45:44 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

This route eliminates the need to ever travel through Magmoor twice and skips a lot of phazon mines

kirbymastah

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kirbymastah: 2013-12-17 01:57:48 am

2013-12-17 01:57:04 am

You can't damage omega pirate without x-ray <_< also when do you get main power bombs?

Getting wave beam before boost ball is faster if you're going straight through pirate labs immediately

Also there's a problem with using magmoor's elevator to enter phazon mines first trip but I forgot what exactly

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 03:04:19 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

Hmm secret world to get phazon artifact lolololol

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 03:06:30 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

Need more research this route could prove promising though

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 03:10:48 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

Alright this might sound like I'm smoking loads of crack but if we walk crawled to phazon artifact then morph into the game won't crash but you'll still be outside in the secret world then wall crawl past omega pirate completely skipping him x]

Odylg

2013-12-17 03:17:58 am

I run this here hotel of an evening

you have to kill omega to get the phazon suit which gives you the phazon beam needed to damage primes second form

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 03:21:31 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 03:36:27 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

Can't you power bomb him without seeing him?

Rakaydos

2013-12-17 03:37:30 am

"
Magmoor first artifact
Early Plasma
Last Magmoor artifact
Head to phendrana drifts for boost ball then wave then artifact
Then head through phendrana drifts for the remaining two artifacts plus thermal visor
Head straight to elevator leading to the back entrance to phazon mines
Phazon mines secret world leading to early ~~omega pirate~~ Power bombs
Climb great tree chamber for Xray, then go back for omega
Backtrack for phazon artifact then head back to travel to last phazon mines artifact
Head to mine entrance to get to get life grove artifact
Then get chozo artifact
Then get lady chozo artifact travel down chozo to Tallon IV
Ship save/ don't save since TAS then Ridley and prime
Endgame ... Profit !!!!"

Better?

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 03:40:00 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

Nooooo secret world to get xray

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 03:41:05 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

Btw you get PB in phendrana early

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 05:03:06 am

Life is a speedrun!!!

So you can just head directly to chozo ruins instead of killing the PB guardian

BioSpark

2013-12-17 12:04:09 pm

just secret world to get everything!

kirbymastah

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kirbymastah: 2013-12-17 12:05:58 pm

2013-12-17 12:05:02 pm

You need the main power bomb upgrade to even beat the game... You can't break open phazon elite without main power bomb. Doesn't matter if you have a PB expansion.

And you can't damage omega pirate without x-ray. This is the only reason you can't skip x-ray, because you need it to get phazon suit, which is needed to damage metroid prime (And also get newborn)

Also, try not to post multiple times within the spam of a few minutes <_<

Furthermore, there's no point in "wallcrawling" to x-ray if you have an early PB from phendrana's edge...

Backtracking from bottom of phazon mines back up to the top to get x-ray, then back to phazon mines to the bottom for omega pirate, then the top for artifact of warrior does not "skip a lot of phazon mines"

You're also forgetting about artifact of lifegiver, but that's not a big deal, since it would be best just to go from artifact of chozo to crashed frigate site to main plaza in chozo ruins to get lifegiver. Yeah annoying detour, but it can't be helped, and it's what the current route does kinda.

Quote from DDRevolutions:

So you can just head directly to chozo ruins instead of killing the PB guardian

Also, um what?

Also would be nice if you gave more specifics in your "route", aka which secret world to use and which artifact (Rather than FIRST and SECOND, etc)

You need the main power bomb upgrade to even beat the game... You can't break open phazon elite without main power bomb. Doesn't matter if you have a PB expansion.

And you can't damage omega pirate without x-ray. This is the only reason you can't skip x-ray, because you need it to get phazon suit, which is needed to damage metroid prime (And also get newborn)

Also, try not to post multiple times within the spam of a few minutes <_<

Furthermore, there's no point in "wallcrawling" to x-ray if you have an early PB from phendrana's edge...

Backtracking from bottom of phazon mines back up to the top to get x-ray, then back to phazon mines to the bottom for omega pirate, then the top for artifact of warrior does not "skip a lot of phazon mines"

You're also forgetting about artifact of lifegiver, but that's not a big deal, since it would be best just to go from artifact of chozo to crashed frigate site to main plaza in chozo ruins to get lifegiver. Yeah annoying detour, but it can't be helped, and it's what the current route does kinda.

[quote="DDRevolutions"]So you can just head directly to chozo ruins instead of killing the PB guardian [/quote]

Also, um what?

Also would be nice if you gave more specifics in your "route", aka which secret world to use and which artifact (Rather than FIRST and SECOND, etc)

Rakaydos

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Rakaydos: 2013-12-17 06:57:12 pm

Rakaydos: 2013-12-17 05:59:42 pm

Rakaydos: 2013-12-17 05:39:37 pm

Rakaydos: 2013-12-17 05:38:08 pm

2013-12-17 05:37:37 pm

I'm imagining a route like:
(...)bombs, IBBF, Flagarra+artifact, magmore Pillar artifact, magmore wall crawl, Plasma beam, deep phenedra, Artifact at Phenedra's Edge (and PB expansion), back through pirate research labs Aether and Hydra (grabbing the tower artifact), Wave beam and artifact, back to Heated Magmore, Artifact and PB expansion, elevator to Talon Overworld, detour to Chozo ruins to get artifact by wavebuster, back to talon overworld, up the crash site to ruins, Artifact beneath the statue, Xray and artifact, over the bars to Phazon mines, and (I'm less clear on routing there), Main Power bombs, Phazon elite artifact, Omega pirate and Artifact of Newborn. Through magmore to talon overworld to landing site to Crater.

So, once through Ruins for almost everything important, Snag an artifact, wall crawl to the far end of magmore, one sweep through Phenedra, finish off magmore, poke your head into Ruins twice to finish it off, Explore far Overworld, clean out the mines, and come back up for the final battles.

I'm imagining a route like:
(...)bombs, IBBF, Flagarra+artifact, magmore Pillar artifact, magmore wall crawl, Plasma beam, deep phenedra, Artifact at Phenedra's Edge (and PB expansion), back through pirate research labs Aether and Hydra (grabbing the tower artifact), Wave beam and artifact, back to Heated Magmore, Artifact and PB expansion, elevator to Talon Overworld, detour to Chozo ruins to get artifact by wavebuster, back to talon overworld, up the crash site to ruins, Artifact beneath the statue, Xray and artifact, over the bars to Phazon mines, and (I'm less clear on routing there), Main Power bombs, Phazon elite artifact, Omega pirate and Artifact of Newborn. Through magmore to talon overworld to landing site to Crater.

So, once through Ruins for almost everything important, Snag an artifact, wall crawl to the far end of magmore, one sweep through Phenedra, finish off magmore, poke your head into Ruins twice to finish it off, Explore far Overworld, clean out the mines, and come back up for the final battles.

arkarian

2013-12-17 06:41:55 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from BioSpark:

just secret world to get everything!

except the first secret world, n00b

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 07:42:26 pm

Life is a speedrun!!!

No but in all seriousness someone wallcrawl in chozo to get the power bomb expansion before bombs that way we can get X-Ray and not have to back track for it later

Pawbdr

2013-12-17 08:17:38 pm

Quote from DDRevolutions:

No but in all seriousness someone wallcrawl in chozo to get the power bomb expansion before bombs that way we can get X-Ray and not have to back track for it later

Idk if you're trolling or just don't know but none of what you're saying is possible especially this. That room is heated therefore requires varia which requires bombs hence powerbombs before bombs not possible. There's a very limited number of energy tanks available without bombs and afaik in the last 11 years it hasn't been done. Correct me if I'm wrong though

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 08:27:30 pm

Life is a speedrun!!!

Okay make a video of it failing then please do then I'll give up

DDRevolutions

2013-12-17 08:40:42 pm

Life is a speedrun!!!

At least try to help this route work like seriously people why are you so against new ideas??? Isn't the point of this site to discover new ways to best the game faster stop shutting me out and work with me > _ >

arkarian

2013-12-17 08:51:15 pm

red chamber dream

it would be wasteful for people to spend time trying things they already know won't work

TheMG2

2013-12-17 08:58:08 pm

Why don't you try things yourself?