Current Any% Route

T3

2013-12-18 03:55:40 pm

getting into that sw isn't possible without space jump (or hasn't been proven yet).

Baby Sheegoth

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Baby Sheegoth: 2013-12-18 05:52:02 pm

Baby Sheegoth: 2013-12-18 05:08:44 pm

2013-12-18 03:58:23 pm

Quote from T3:

getting into that sw isn't possible without space jump (or hasn't been proven yet).

Sorry, when I said low% I meant 22. Should have been more specific.

EDIT: fooling around in TAS, I just realised that to get a stall on random geometry like you can when you morph sometimes, you HAVE to hold in a specific direction. I think it equates to be exactly perpendicular to the direction of the seam you're stalling on

Anyone wanna tell me why this route: http://i.imgur.com/KrBYX4T.jpg is retarded? :)

T3

2013-12-18 06:06:45 pm

wallcrawling past that debris is pointless. you might as well go into far phendrana right then, clear everything and get the early pb in phendrana's edge. that route is much slower than the current route anyway even with that fix.

Baby Sheegoth

2013-12-18 06:09:10 pm

Quote from T3:

wallcrawling past that debris is pointless. you might as well go into far phendrana right then, clear everything and get the early pb in phendrana's edge. that route is much slower than the current route anyway even with that fix.

It's a 22% route, you can't get early PB in 22%

T3

2013-12-18 06:11:55 pm

you can't get past that debris after ppc with that route.

Baby Sheegoth

2013-12-18 06:12:55 pm

Quote from T3:

you can't get past that debris after ppc with that route.

Didn't even think about that. right

Rakaydos

2013-12-19 01:59:05 pm

Is main poweerbombs anywhere near there? Gwtting back may be ess of an issue.

MASTER-88

2014-02-21 07:33:58 am

Speedrunner

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You need the main power bomb upgrade to even beat the game... You can't break open phazon elite without main power bomb. Doesn't matter if you have a PB expansion.

Thats news to me
LOL im didn´t even knew that. Im not never are even trying it. This looks like a lot MP 2 Echoes Dark agon key doesn´t appear if you not pick up main PB.

I wonder if someone can find faster route than Miles used. Somereason nobody want make TAS runs with this game. Its migth be interested see good TAS run somewhere 45 minutes used current route or probably faster route if someone TAS player could find even better.

kirbymastah

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kirbymastah: 2014-02-22 03:41:33 pm

2014-02-21 04:47:13 pm

Errr TAS runs aren't going to happen for a while because of loading inaccuracies. And if you don't understand why, please look it up yourself and don't start another crapstorm about it

EDIT: I meant, please do not start a crapstorm, not that you started one. This kind of discussion always leads into annoying repetitive crap.

MASTER-88

2014-02-22 01:06:59 am

Speedrunner

Quote from kirbymastah:

Errr TAS runs aren't going to happen for a while because of loading inaccuracies. And if you don't understand why, please look it up yourself and don't start another crapstorm about it

Im not understand anything about TAS. Its complicated enought make NES game TAS runs.

But this game and all cube games is possible make TAS. Iwatch some awesome TAS Wips in frigate. Somereason peoples not never continued it.

And thats not crapstorms. You not need are rude man.

kirbymastah

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2014-02-22 01:28:05 am

<_< inaccurate loading issues change optimsl strategies and OoB, affecting the actual gameplay. Whatever the tas on current dolphin does, will not be the fastest strategy nor can be replicated if TAS was done on console.

Just take my word for it, TAS for full metroid prime runs will not happen for a long time <_<

And by crapstorm, I mean shit like this:

https://m2k2.taigaforum.com/post/metroid_prime_tas_476.html

http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=314&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=460

itspersonnal said this as to why TASing with current dolphin is stupid:

"Because it affects INGAME strats. It's not like "oh the loading screens are shorter? That doesn't matter". It's "oh, the door that I normally need to hit a loading trigger for will just open instantly. No need to hit the trigger then, right".
Things that would be objectively slower become FASTER than the optimized room strats with Dolphins current loads. At that point the game isn't really even Metroid Prime anymore, every room would be done completely different"

<_< inaccurate loading issues change optimsl strategies and OoB, affecting the actual gameplay. Whatever the tas on current dolphin does, will not be the fastest strategy nor can be replicated if TAS was done on console.

Just take my word for it, TAS for full metroid prime runs will not happen for a long time <_<

And by crapstorm, I mean shit like this:

https://m2k2.taigaforum.com/post/metroid_prime_tas_476.html

http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=314&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=460

itspersonnal said this as to why TASing with current dolphin is stupid:

"Because it affects INGAME strats. It's not like "oh the loading screens are shorter? That doesn't matter". It's "oh, the door that I normally need to hit a loading trigger for will just open instantly. No need to hit the trigger then, right".
Things that would be objectively slower become FASTER than the optimized room strats with Dolphins current loads. At that point the game isn't really even Metroid Prime anymore, every room would be done completely different"