Am I the only one?

2009-09-01 12:26:27 pm

For some reason, I can picture Metroid Fusion having rpg elements. The whole concept of absorbing the x-parasites to become stronger just seems like it would click with a leveling up system, rather than being downgraded to walking collectibles. Samus gains abilities from core-x so why shouldn't she be able to exploit the DNA picked up by regular X-parasites as well? Maybe it's just me but it seems like the "only core-x can give you abilities" mechanic is a little far fetched.

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Tyjet66

2009-09-01 02:03:08 pm

What'd you say?

I could see it going along with a level system, just remove the e-tanks and missile packs from the game, after you absorb enough small x parasites your energy/missile count would increase, but the way I see it would involve keeping the core-x giving upgrades still. Sounds like an interesting metroid game actually. Cool

tomatobob

2009-09-01 04:31:14 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

yeah man level grinding sounds totally cool in metroid

Tyjet66

2009-09-01 04:39:17 pm

What'd you say?

Not grinding, I'm not saying you need like 500 x parasites for one e-tank more like every 50 you get 5 missiles and every 100 you get an e-tank.

BioSpark

2009-09-01 05:27:41 pm

it kinda is already. you steadily get more health and weapons with real time fighting. instead of experience, the boss just drops the next upgrade.

MetroidJunkie

2009-09-01 05:32:14 pm

I was thinking more of level grinding but using it as a substitute for energy tanks and missile tanks would be good too. Wink

I would definitely say that the x-parasite concept was heavily underutilized in this game, all they are is power-ups that move, not exactly an innovative title.

Opium

2009-09-01 06:49:19 pm

I hate points and leveling-up systems. I would be pissed if they put that in Metroid. That's a stepping stone for more lame shit like turn-based combat.

MetroidJunkie

2009-09-01 06:53:10 pm

Quote from Opium:

I hate points and leveling-up systems. I would be pissed if they put that in Metroid. That's a stepping stone for more lame shit like turn-based combat.

I don't mean ALL Metroid games, just Fusion. At the very least, the x-parasites could've been more than just moving power-ups. It's no different than any other game except the powerups look like mucus and move.

arkarian

2009-09-01 07:11:47 pm

red chamber dream

i think half the fun of metroid games, especially fusion, is running through rooms while avoiding and not killing enemies. they're platformers, after all. however i do think a metroid rpg would be cool; it'd just have to be done differently (ie not a platformer).

Quietus

2009-09-02 04:39:25 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

You could have it first person, with an upgrade system similar to System Shock, or Deus Ex.

MetroidJunkie

2009-09-02 07:37:46 am

Quote from Quietus:

You could have it first person, with an upgrade system similar to System Shock, or Deus Ex.

Holy crap, I just thought of the possibility of fighting SA-X with good AI and in 3D.

Gamma_Metroid

2009-09-02 11:07:45 pm

Quote from arkarian:

i think half the fun of metroid games, especially fusion, is running through rooms while avoiding and not killing enemies. they're platformers, after all. however i do think a metroid rpg would be cool; it'd just have to be done differently (ie not a platformer).

Where's Houston when you need him?

Lucied Unlimited

2009-09-05 01:55:59 am

All aboard the soul train

Well, it'll probably never happen.

But there's always Castlevania, right?

Right...?

JaggerG

2009-09-05 06:23:47 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Quote from MetroidJunkie:

Maybe it's just me but it seems like the "only core-x can give you abilities" mechanic is a little far fetched.

Uh, data rooms do too, dude. It's like you're supposed to get pieces of your suit back little by little. Some upgrades are uploaded to data rooms for some reason, others are given back by the major X organisms. Besides, the X had been the enemies you fought throughout the sectors. They're not just flying mucus that gave you ammo.

Quote from arkarian:

they're platformers, after all.

I'm not so sure about that. I think they're more action/adventure. They're (supposed to be) much more about exploration and fighting hostile alien creatures that climb across ceilings viciously than getting from point a to point b across a series of platforms or lack thereof.

Heh, Houston. I remember that guy. I miss bugging him.

MetroidJunkie

2009-09-05 03:51:06 pm

Quote from JaggerG:

Uh, data rooms do too, dude. It's like you're supposed to get pieces of your suit back little by little. Some upgrades are uploaded to data rooms for some reason, others are given back by the major X organisms. Besides, the X had been the enemies you fought throughout the sectors. They're not just flying mucus that gave you ammo.

I mean the fact that normal x-parasites don't give you jack except energy/missiles. It seems like the minor x-parasites would atleast have some enemy ability that could be absorbed by Samus. They may be the enemies, but that's just it. There's no difference between the x-parasites and enemies in other games in the series. Only difference is the x-parasites that replace the health/missile pick ups can move. It would make more sense if Samus could somehow absorb enemy abilities through minor x-parasites.

JaggerG

2009-09-05 08:34:23 pm

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Like if you could absorb Bulimia from the hornoads, and Super Stretch from the stretchies? I guess there could have been a couple useful abilities, but there are just too many enemies to get a skill from each of them IMO. The seahorses that have that orb that spirals around them looks useful though.

MetroidJunkie

2009-09-06 03:13:36 am

True but it would've been nice for them to atleast be more than pickup replacements.

JaggerG

2009-09-06 08:52:33 am

Shifty Leader

That M2k2 guy

Maybe, but if they didn't have them at all, then you kind of get stuck from not having refills, don't you? Unless you feel like running back to a recharge room every couple minutes. At least some of the X combine to form stronger enemies. Although even that is pretty dumb since you can't absorb them yet even though they're just floating around. But yeah, I don't think they ever gave it any more thought than considering it a very convenient plot device to explain refills. For this game, they tried specifically to make a story, and kind of lost focus on the game.

But the thing is, it's still not even remotely an RPG, and IMO it shouldn't be. Sure, some people liked Adventure of Link, but it's pretty unpopular among many Zelda fans. You might love the idea, but BioSpark probably doesn't. It's a nice idea to have it appeal to more people, but you have to remember that sometimes, ideas can turn other people off. To give an extreme example, people flat-out HATE Nintendo and everything it does because of graphical reasons and because their target audience is a couple years younger than them. If you spend a couple thousand dollars boosting the picture quality and give Zelda only a couple ribbons as clothing, sure it might appeal to a lot of people.

But perhaps I'm veering a bit off topic. I guess you're not saying Fusion should have been like this as much as posing it as an interesting hack, right? In that case it probably belongs in the hacks discussion board or something, I'm not sure. But I guess I just thought I could offer my reasoning for not liking the idea. I admit, it is more of a personal tastes kind of debate. I'm also apparently tired and rambly tonight. O_o

Maybe, but if they didn't have them at all, then you kind of get stuck from not having refills, don't you? Unless you feel like running back to a recharge room every couple minutes. At least some of the X combine to form stronger enemies. Although even that is pretty dumb since you can't absorb them yet even though they're just floating around. But yeah, I don't think they ever gave it any more thought than considering it a very convenient plot device to explain refills. For this game, they tried specifically to make a story, and kind of lost focus on the game.

But the thing is, it's still not even remotely an RPG, and IMO it shouldn't be. Sure, some people liked Adventure of Link, but it's pretty unpopular among many Zelda fans. You might love the idea, but BioSpark probably doesn't. It's a nice idea to have it appeal to more people, but you have to remember that sometimes, ideas can turn other people off. To give an extreme example, people flat-out HATE Nintendo and everything it does because of graphical reasons and because their target audience is a couple years younger than them. If you spend a couple thousand dollars boosting the picture quality and give Zelda only a couple ribbons as clothing, sure it might appeal to a lot of people.

But perhaps I'm veering a bit off topic. I guess you're not saying Fusion should have been like this as much as posing it as an interesting hack, right? In that case it probably belongs in the hacks discussion board or something, I'm not sure. But I guess I just thought I could offer my reasoning for not liking the idea. I admit, it is more of a personal tastes kind of debate. I'm also apparently tired and rambly tonight. O_o

TJF588

2009-11-08 04:23:56 am

once GameFAQs, now Twitch

Quote from JaggerG:

Like if you could absorb Bulimia from the hornoads, and Super Stretch from the stretchies? I guess there could have been a couple useful abilities, but there are just too many enemies to get a skill from each of them IMO. The seahorses that have that orb that spirals around them looks useful though.

Oh jeebus, it's the "of Sorrow" games!

green9090

2010-01-18 01:22:00 pm

Quote from MetroidJunkie:

Holy crap, I just thought of the possibility of fighting SA-X with good AI and in 3D.

You mean like an alternate version of Samus who is evil, that you fight in 3D? Perhaps she could have a black suit! Maybe tie her in to the whole phazon storyline... WAIT. This is sounding familiar.