20% Topic

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-09 08:14:12 am

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

ok looks like i found a 20% possibility...
it is definitly possible to get ice beam before missiles
with HBJ's

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-09 08:15:27 am

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

oh wait.. mbb's/morph ball isnt possible before missiles... hm i will think a bit about it<.<

Hazel

2011-11-09 09:17:41 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Ice beam can be done as your 2nd item, with space jump that is :P but theres no way to leave. for a missile skip, we need to find a SW in or around the room with the morph ball

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-09 09:50:43 am

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

yeah im talking about a 21% run ^^

Hazel

2011-11-09 10:11:49 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Im talking about skiping missiles in a non low%

Hazel

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Hazel: 2011-11-09 12:37:11 pm

2011-11-09 11:45:08 am

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

how much damage do you take per second in magmoor without varia? how long do you have if you don't have any tanks?

arkarian

2011-11-09 12:42:12 pm

red chamber dream

Quote from itsPersonnal:

Im talking about skiping missiles in a non low%

skipping missiles? what about nature?

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-09 01:19:23 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

no problem i use the IS for this.

arkarian

2011-11-09 01:20:25 pm

red chamber dream

oh, cool, didn't know you could do that.

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-09 01:33:06 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

oh what is nature in phendrana at this pirate base?

arkarian

2011-11-09 01:33:50 pm

red chamber dream

no it's in magmoor. but yeah elder is a problem too i guess.

Hazel

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Hazel: 2011-11-09 02:05:20 pm

2011-11-09 02:04:48 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

I bet I can get all the artifacts tonight without (using) missiles, I can make a random video of that lol :P

(right now I'm in school)

Edit, yeah I could do a 23% run and just not use missiles other then the spots that truly need them, and tell everyone what/where those spots are

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-09 02:18:29 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

good it would be useful :)

Hazel

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2011-11-09 02:28:43 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

in the mean time, MrSpEeDrUn: can you test somthing for me, get a power bomb exp and then beat the boss for power bombs, dont get the main power bombs, then go see if the trigger is there for warrior, (you may need to use IS to hit the trigger, if there is one)

If you need any help with codes (for items or health or anything, I know a fair bit about Action Replay codes)

TheOthin

2011-11-09 05:29:06 pm

Quote from itsPersonnal:

how much damage do you take per second in magmoor without varia? how long do you have if you don't have any tanks?

According to the chart, you take 6.7 damage per second on the NA version, but 15.2 on the other versions.

Sparky was trying to get through one room here; I don't know if anyone ever got through or if there were any other rooms that were causing problems.

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-09 05:34:43 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

uhm... i think i would survive with like 30HP with tas.

arkarian

2011-11-09 05:35:55 pm

red chamber dream

if you can that means it's possible on console. but probably really really hard.

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-09 05:39:04 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

just do it without changing the view- your blind but with savestates its no problem
i also saved a lot of time with this on the ice beam first trick.

arkarian

2011-11-09 05:40:02 pm

red chamber dream

so wait, you can get through magmoor the first time without varia? doesn't that mean varia is skipped?

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-09 05:44:49 pm

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

i did not try it yet <.< idk

TheOthin

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TheOthin: 2011-11-09 06:24:31 pm

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2011-11-09 06:23:58 pm

Well, unless anyone knows of any other problematic points, I think this is one of the best places to look for 20%, especially on an emulator.

MilesSMB

2011-11-09 06:33:16 pm

Quote from TheOthin:

According to the chart, you take 6.7 damage per second on the NA version, but 15.2 on the other versions.

Er, that value is for the poisoned water in Chozo Ruins before Flaahgra, not for heated rooms...

I think you take 10 damage a second, though I've never actually checked. Looks like you do anyway. >_> Why not check it yourself?

Hazel

2011-11-09 10:06:28 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

well I havent finished the "no using missiles other then to get the ball" run and one problem, and another annoying thing

problem: Ice Beam

annoying thing: getting to phen, becaause guess who was to do this again >_>

its crazy how much missiles help, and I didnt even notice :O

MrSpEeDrUn

2011-11-10 07:52:06 am

MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning

ty for the "how to" looks like its gonna be a peace of cake...
but i think it will require a long time to make it perfect...

Hazel

2011-11-10 02:35:32 pm

rocks, locks, and invisible blocks

Oh wait, I forgot that Plasma beam melts that Ice in phen, looks like you only need to wall crawl to plasma beam and back to get to Phen ^_^