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XtraX
2005-02-18 11:53:35 am
tis myh god Englisch!

I mean those two Missile Blocks where only the two numbers "one" and "two" are ;)
Izo
2005-02-18 12:01:30 pm
soaking through
Wow.  I just tried this on my hard 90-odd% file, and what he says is true.  I'm nowhere near good enough to do a hard 9%, but I think it's possible on PAL now.
XtraX
2005-02-18 03:06:47 pm
Yay!
*Has already started 9% Hard*
*is currently stuck by the first Zebetite(?)*
*Thinks it may only take a year or so to kill all four Zebetites*

oh well...

@ Dragonfangs and Gamecube04: Did you try it on the two Missile Blocks I mean? (The Missile Blocks on the other way through Chozodia respawn when you leave the room) 9% Hard NTSC and Pal would be cool....somehow...

Maybe that would be too easy... Rolling Eyes

(and I dont know why this hasn't been found before...)
GameCube04
2005-02-18 05:43:27 pm
Yeah, I tried it on all of the possible paths.  Each time, the missile blocks would still be there after leaving the room.

Well, 9% hard is still cool, even if it's only possible on PAL.
ajbolt89
2005-02-18 06:17:13 pm
lol no way
Ugh, go undermining all my "hard work."

Damn it.
Zeke
2005-02-18 07:50:06 pm
Time bomb set get out fast!
Sweet!  This is proof positive that you are the legendary Reploid... er, proof positive that Nintendo foresaw 9% runs.  There's no other explanation for those, and only those, missile blocks staying destroyed.
nate
2005-02-18 09:18:00 pm
heh, yeah. go not testing the most obvious thing in the world. sometimes i think the world would be a better place if i killed everyone except me.

on a lighter note, i will endeavor to confirm this with video forthwith (assuming no one else is doing it atm).
tomatobob
2005-02-18 11:56:49 pm
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Quote from njahnke:
heh, yeah. go not testing the most obvious thing in the world. sometimes i think the world would be a better place if i killed everyone except me.


You know you'd be bored without us. :P
ajbolt89
2005-02-19 03:00:28 am
lol no way
Wait, I hope you guys didn't take my post as though I was saying that they're right and it works in the PAL version, cause while it very well may (although I hope it doesn't), I haven't seen it myself. I'm just sort of upset it all.
Zeke
2005-02-19 04:30:17 am
Time bomb set get out fast!
I didn't read you that way, aj.  But I don't think there's much room for doubt now -- XtraX is a newbie and all, but Izo certainly isn't.  Of course it's possible they both got mutant PAL carts, so other people should check, but my money's on their missile blocks vanishing too.
Izo
2005-02-19 05:01:30 am
soaking through
Quote from Zeke:
I didn't read you that way, aj.  But I don't think there's much room for doubt now -- XtraX is a newbie and all, but Izo certainly isn't.


Ooh, ooh, but I got that Fusion thing horribly wrong.  Plus I suck at most Metroid games, except, ironically, Fusion.
KennyMan666
2005-02-19 07:18:14 pm
Viking
Precursor
It's kinda hard to suck in a game that holds your hand all the time.
Yoshi348
2005-02-19 11:43:55 pm
PAGE BREAKER
Ready and willing.
YAY KNEE JERK FUSION BASH!

So every linear game is easy?
nate
2005-02-20 01:29:24 am
version difference confirmed. and i tested in the jp version, too - the blocks come back.

*slices zm in half with a sword*

i dub thee ntsc and pal!

update coming soon.
Red Scarlet
2005-02-20 01:57:38 am
I('d) like to watch (some MP3 runs)
I got there on Normal while playing it in Spanish...the missile blocks stayed gone after refilling...just another *raises hand* type thing, as it seems to work for PAL.

Now I just wonder why it took so long for that to be figured out....
ajbolt89
2005-02-20 03:28:13 am
lol no way
Wahoo, now everyone can watch the pal people's 9% hard runs.
tomatobob
2005-02-20 03:43:17 am
One shall stand, one shall ball.
How nice for us. >_>
nate
2005-02-20 03:44:12 am
updated.
tomatobob
2005-02-20 03:45:24 am
One shall stand, one shall ball.
Wow, an update, I haven't seen one of those in ages. :P
ShadowJedi
2005-02-20 09:01:00 am
You didn't check that other topic where he posted about an update a whole minute earlier then.


And damn, my brother, who moved out (temporarily for school) has my copy of MZM. He's about 25~ miles away right now, and I have no way of getting it back before easter. Yay for discoveries, anyway.


Hmm... Maybe if I...
Izo
2005-02-20 09:07:34 am
soaking through
Hmm.  Now I need to get really good at ZM, really fast.  I've started a 9% normal, but it is really damn hard.  Any tips/boss strategies etc would be appreciated.
ajbolt89
2005-02-20 09:12:31 am
lol no way
Oh jesus, maybe if you WHAT! CLIFFHANGER ENDING DUNDUNDUUUNN.

Awesome though that you got all those other videos in that update too. *Cough( I made the RidleyCrumble videos *cough*

Edit: Watch the run man, I'm not just plugging it, I seriously think it will help you... except get Varia like right after bombs. I didn't do that in the run cause it's faster not to.
ShadowJedi
2005-02-20 09:18:20 am
...Emulate it. Duh.

Found a problem, no one says what version it is. So I say, never mind.

*Dashes away to buy food*
Izo
2005-02-20 09:18:21 am
soaking through
I've already got early Varia, seeing as bomb jumping's probably what I'm best at, but I'm really dreading Kraid, Ridley, and Tourian.  So far, I've got missiles, ice beam, varia, bombs, and morph ball.  Can't remember exactly where I am.

EDIT:  I have another question.  I've got a save right after Ice beam in that tall shaft with purple things, but I don't know whether to do Ridley before Kraid or not.  Keep in mind when answering this question that I suck at one-wall walljumping, as well as Zero Mission in general.
ajbolt89
2005-02-20 10:18:33 am
lol no way
Erm... I'd just do Ridley first, there's no one-wall jumping required, and he's not really that hard with the cheesing strat. Also keep in mind you MUST fight acid worm. Don't try to skip him, you'll regret it later.