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MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-24 10:36:11 pm
MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-24 10:33:57 pm
MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-24 10:32:37 pm
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
might aswell get a 1:39 in a single segment.

Edit: no, seriously, those tricks are rediculously difficult; and not worth doing, trust me, those are TAS only it would probably literally take a year to finish such a segment if you'd ever finish it. (well you can poke miles if he does them but, probably he doesnt want to do that... lol)

i was trying that floaty dash which miles did in his 14% run in segment 3.
i tried that for around 3 hours (about 400 attempts) and got it a grand total of 9 times (i got the floaty dash more often and made it without floaty dash sometimes) so yeah. screw it, may consider doing it in my final run though... >_>
and yes i think that dash is actually harder than Grand Abyss.... so if you want to challenge yourself, go ahead give it a shot

and it really does barely save any time, if you optimize your movement (probably 3 seconds or even less....)
So, the next segment you are doing sandigger wallcrawl, right?  When do you plan on getting the beam ammo and the missile in the morphball maze?  I don't know if this will help you but the missile expansion within the morphball maze can be collected oob. 
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
i looked at it; pretty sure getting the missile from OoB is slower.
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-24 09:41:53 pm
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
attempt #158



4:14.185

Sandigger whhhhyyyy....
anyways; obviously not perfect; but decent overall and, man the quick sandigger strat sucks <_<

so yeah, you can probably tell how difficult this was for me by looking at the fact that this segment actually took me more attempts than all previous segments combined together...
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning


attempt #105

This segment actually was too hard for me, to get a decent attempt in time, unless i wanted to spend like 1000 attempts on it, so i kinda gave up and switched to easier strats for now, i want to cut out around 3 seconds of this, theres still a couple really ugly mistakes in it.
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kirbymastah: 2013-12-24 11:57:40 pm
kirbymastah: 2013-12-24 11:56:24 pm
If you want a more serious run to submit to SDA, you probably shouldn't be pumping out so many segments per day; at least wait for people to comment on the latest segment before moving on.

Also for the morph ball tunnel missile tank,the best time to get it would be during agon cleanup since no electric barriers, and you have boost ball. Doesn't actually cost that much time in comparison to getting it normally without sandigger.

Also IIRC miles said getting the beam ammo OoB during sandigger is slower. I didn't watch thesegment yet, not realy much time to do so, but yeah.

@TheMG2, at this rate it might as well be a test run. Mrspeedrun hasn't kept backup saves, and doesn't seem like he's taking it as seriously as he should if it was a more serious run. If you want a serious run to submit to SDA, I hope that you redo this after you finish this run and optimize it as much as possible (especially segment 3, that alone makes the entire progress so far reject-worthy <_< ). And although harsh to say, IMO you really aren't in any position to say "optimizing more takes too many attempts" since you keep finishing so many segments per day =/
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-25 11:47:30 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-25 11:10:06 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-25 11:00:58 am
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
well keep in mind that i was sitting on that for 8 hours <_<
and i really dont have the time to do that every day, so if i worked on it normally it would probably have taken around 3 days to get this segment, which im not even satisfied with (i mean that segment 5 attempt)
so yeah; im taking this run pretty serious, and the reason why i got 3 segments in 1 day is because i was working on segment 1 for around 3 days before and segment 2 is really short. and i got pretty lucky with segment 3 to be honest.
but; oh well, the next segments are gonna take a lot more time, cause there even harder. (like these segments arent difficult enough already... <_<)

also i really dont wanna wait another year (or even longer) to update the side, and why not upload this run, its really good, even for me.
i think it will take me more than 2 months to finish this. so yeah... and... im really not looking forward to do the final run :(

Edit: okay i have to admitt that segment 3 isnt that good, now that i know what mistakes i made at jump guardian... however; theres still 25 segments to go right? so yeah... let's see how this goes.
Quote from MrSpEeDrUn:
also i really dont wanna wait another year (or even longer) to update the side, and why not upload this run, its really good, even for me.

I'm not entirely sure why this is an issue, the current run on the site is still really good.
I guess I am being overly harsh, but I hope you'll put more work in; I know you can pull off a great run :)

Also, it's not really updating SDA in a sense since your segmented run is NOT going to replace miles's 1:56 <_<
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
well, the route is completely different compared to miles's, and yes miles's run is actually pretty old.
i dont say that run is bad, its insanely good.
but segmented runs are different to single segment, and the current segmented record is from 2004... so it should really be updated >_>
The current segmented record is from 2011.
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
lol
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-25 10:33:32 pm
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
i HATE the Torvus Temple pirate fight, ive been sitting on it for 7 hours now; didnt get it a single time, also i have to do sandigger quick strat in that segment. goddamn this segment is probably gonna take me a week or something.
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-25 11:16:39 pm
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attempt #142

finally done!



theres 2 mistakes in the segment; one where i failed dashing off the corpse and one before collecting light beam, probably around 2.5 seconds in total.
But screw it! this segment is very difficult to rush and the rest was awesome. and im really sick of it ):
kirby why don't you just let him do what he wants
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-26 08:48:09 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-26 08:47:47 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-26 07:29:50 am
MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-26 07:29:37 am
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
okay; i made a desission; i'll NOT do the rediculous strat for the torvus temple pirate fight; its probably THE HARDEST TRICK IN THE ENTIRE GAME and theres a way to do it about 5 seconds slower, but WAY easier. (but its still extremely difficult) I'll do that, and still be around 10 seconds faster than the normal strat. (which miles used in his 1:01 any% )

i mean; even miles spent 5 days on that segment, and i think he got rather lucky with it, also this segment is a lot harder than miles's segment 5 of his any% run so. screw it.
That segment was overall pretty solid. The only mistakes I noticed was the instant unmorph at the beginning but you recovered well plus your scan dash in the following room was on point. The scan off the corpse like you noted but meh didn't lose much time. The scan dashes you had in Central Mining Station were pretty cool too. Keep it up! I think it's always interesting seeing new projects on the site despite if they're going to break all records or not
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MrSpEeDrUn: 2013-12-26 09:13:11 am
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
the instant unmorph at the beginning doesnt save time, its actually slower, cause you have to morph back in, and the door was still loading, when i hit the door with the bomb. (well its actually not slower; cause you can get the same cycle on the floating platform anyways, if everything goes well)

also; where i scan dashed of the crystal; i intentionally waited a bit before dashing and going to the right a bit, to hit the loading trigger for the next room, so i couldve dash earlier, but didnt cause it would just have resulted in waiting at the door longerfor it to open.

thanks :)
Segment 5

As you mentioned, the jump before light beam was sloppy and lost a few seconds; I'm surprised you didn't go for the ghetto straight to the light beam room (without lowering the platform), as it seems like a good strat for segmented, but I've never gone for it (shrugs)

Could've probably saved a second at the start by going into the save station earlier too, but whatever.

Segment overall is good though! Good luck with the next (hellish) one!
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
i hate that ghetto :(
MP2 also a bit MP1 speedrunning
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Could've probably saved a second at the start by going into the save station earlier too, but whatever.


yeah it couldve been slightly faster, i just went with going back into the station after touching dark world, i thought it was pretty close to the best you could do, but i'm not sure if that really was a full second lost.