Un-important Shinspark

SloppyJoe95

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SloppyJoe95: 2010-01-15 10:13:51 pm

SloppyJoe95: 2010-01-15 10:13:27 pm

2010-01-09 11:33:43 pm

"Looks like Ridley left a trail..."

okay, so ive read before that people were having problems when trying to super jump horizontally, and it just sometimes doesnt work. someone even made a cheat code so u could hold l or r to go horizontally.

HOLD JUMP + direction, dont just press jump.
and i kno this could be really obvious to others, but i thought i'd just point that out teach

EDIT: Sorry, let me make it more clear.
When you hold in a shinespark and you want to super jump horizontally, hold jump (making samus float for about a second). Within the second that she floats (while you are HOLDING jump), press the direction that you want to go. It should work fine and easy.

When you press jump instead of holding it, the "window of opportunity" appears to be very short, because holding jump keeps the "window of opportunity" open.

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Gamma_Metroid

2010-01-11 03:39:30 pm

I don't have any trouble shinesparking horizontally, but I can't figure out how to go diagonally.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-01-11 03:44:10 pm

Don't think you can in SM. I know you can in ZM, not sure about Fusion.

Opium

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Opium: 2010-01-11 03:48:04 pm

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Opium: 2010-01-11 03:47:07 pm

2010-01-11 03:45:44 pm

Quote from TheGreenManalishi:

Don't think you can in SM. I know you can in ZM, not sure about Fusion.

Whaa?? There's like 4 places where it's practically mandatory if you care about time.

Diagonally is very easy, just hold down whatever button you have set for diagonal/up aiming (usually L or R) and then press jump.

Quote from SloppyJoe95:

HOLD JUMP + direction, dont just press jump.
and i kno this could be really obvious to others, but i thought i'd just point that out teach

That's kinda the same instructions for shinesparking horizontally in ZM, and for some reason it's much easier to pull off in that game. Since I have never found a definite technique for horizontal shinespark in Super, I just tap the jump button + the direction repeatedly. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It can be so picky and incosistent, like space jump timing.

Quietus

2010-01-11 06:22:52 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

To do it in Super, the window of opportunity is much tighter than in Zero Mission. You just need to press jump, immediately followed by left / right, whereas Zero Mission gave you quite a lenient window.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-01-12 04:04:18 am

Quote from Opium:

Quote from TheGreenManalishi:

Don't think you can in SM. I know you can in ZM, not sure about Fusion.

Whaa?? There's like 4 places where it's practically mandatory if you care about time.

I don't. I always take Super and Prime at a leisurely pace.

Kejardon

2010-01-12 01:09:51 pm

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

um, guys, it's actually quite easy as long as you aren't doing something like mid-air horizontal. Just hold jump, don't tap it.

... Oh wow, apparently then the first post is actually helpful. Assuming people read it.

P.JMan

2010-01-12 01:34:56 pm

I like Big Butts and I can not lie

I've always abided what I posted here

Kejardon

2010-01-12 02:04:00 pm

Embarrasing Fact: Power suit made by lowest bidder

well, as far as game mechanics go:
Being in certain poses will immediately trigger a super jump. Almost all normal jump poses (but not falling poses) will trigger it.
When a super jump is triggered, it will go through a windup, and at the end of the windup do a vertical super jump.
During the windup, if jump and up/aim up/forward are both held down (it doesn't matter when they're pressed just so long as both are being held down at the same time), a super jump will be done in that direction immediately.

The only tricky part should be breaking out of spinjump to start a mid-air super jump.

SloppyJoe95

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SloppyJoe95: 2010-01-12 08:39:11 pm

2010-01-12 08:37:54 pm

"Looks like Ridley left a trail..."

Quote from Opium:

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It can be so picky and incosistent, like space jump timing.

Thats why i said to HOLD jump, because it works EVERY time.

Quote from Quietus:

To do it in Super, the window of opportunity is much tighter than in Zero Mission. You just need to press jump, immediately followed by left / right, whereas Zero Mission gave you quite a lenient window.

NO, the window of opportunity IS OPEN AS LONG AS YOU HOLD JUMP.

Quote from Kejardon:

um, guys, it's actually quite easy as long as you aren't doing something like mid-air horizontal. Just hold jump, don't tap it.

... Oh wow, apparently then the first post is actually helpful. Assuming people read it.

LOL thank you, but i assume these people need to read it again. stern

Quietus

2010-01-13 04:49:39 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Perhaps it could have been worded a little better. Perhaps I didn't read it carefully enough. Perhaps both. Either way, the point stands, in that it should now be easy enough for anybody to consistently spark horizontally. Thank you.

SloppyJoe95

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SloppyJoe95: 2010-01-15 10:02:38 pm

2010-01-15 10:02:07 pm

"Looks like Ridley left a trail..."

You're very welcome. Everyone's very welcome. It's my pleasure to help. And I hope it does help. Very Happy

SloppyJoe95

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2010-01-15 10:04:35 pm

"Looks like Ridley left a trail..."

Quote from Quietus:

Perhaps it could have been worded a little better.

Yea, that's my fault, considering I've re-read what I wrote and it barely seems to be clear.
Okay, I edited it.

Opium

2010-01-15 11:14:34 pm

Quote from SloppyJoe95:

...And I hope it does help. Very Happy

I just did a quick run of Super, and pulled off every horizontal shinespark effortlessly. Now I just need to stop trying to figure out why the fuck something so simple has remained so elusive to me for the last 15 years. Thank you.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-01-16 07:05:02 am

I thought it was diagonal sparks that were the problem. I've never had problems with horizontal ones, and I suck at Super.

J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE

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J-SNAKE: 2010-01-16 09:41:59 am

J-SNAKE: 2010-01-16 09:40:32 am

2010-01-16 09:38:05 am

thats me

Quote from Opium:

Now I just need to stop trying to figure out why the fuck something so simple has remained so elusive to me for the last 15 years.

It is because of the bad design-issues. Nail me, but I am not kidding. (the relationship to what it does and what it takes can factly be simpler and more intuitive without getting into trouble with other things)

Quietus

2010-01-17 08:29:27 am

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Quote from TheGreenManalishi:

I thought it was diagonal sparks that were the problem. I've never had problems with horizontal ones, and I suck at Super.

Diagonal sparks should never be a problem. As Opium said above, just hold the 'aim-up' button (default is R) and press jump.

AbsolutexZero

2010-11-16 07:35:42 pm

Best game ever = Super Metroid

Quote from Gamma_Metroid:

I don't have any trouble shinesparking horizontally, but I can't figure out how to go diagonally.

Sorry if it's been answered dude, but it seems as if it hasn't. To Shine Spark diagonally, you simply hold the R button and face the direction you wanna go then jump.

Quietus

2010-11-16 08:15:56 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

You mean like right above your post! Razz

AbsolutexZero

2010-11-17 06:00:41 pm

Best game ever = Super Metroid

Absolutely!!! :D Totally didn't even see that I am sorry for posting a pointless post.