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Sigfriedxx
2009-03-02 04:06:18 pm
lava pool dive, green gates?  powerbomb blocks?  I don't recall such a place.  the only place that is in lava and green gates have regular bomb blocks.

but I'll let you learn you're going the wrong way on your own
Opium
2009-03-02 04:14:46 pm
Quote from Kaiser:

But... as it is becoming usual, i'm stuck again! Now it's the Lava Pool Dive, the one with many power bomb blocks and green gates, that i think that will lead to the Grapple hook thing. It looks that i'm missing 2 e-tanks for this one (have 4).


I cant figure out where you are either.  Did you blow up the noob-tube thats right by Kraid ?
Kaiser
Kaiser
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Kaiser: 2009-03-02 05:55:19 pm
2009-03-02 05:44:25 pm
What?!
Yes! That was the only place that was left for me to investigate, but once i destroy the tube, i can't go back. And those're the only 4 e-tanks before going there. Which is the spoiling clue here?

Quote from Sigfriedxx:
lava pool dive, green gates?  powerbomb blocks?  I don't recall such a place.  the only place that is in lava and green gates have regular bomb blocks.

Like, Samus bein' melted down in that place. It'd be senseless to blow up the blocks using common bombs instead of doing a fast work.
Sigfriedxx
2009-03-02 05:54:34 pm
you are going the right way in blowing the tube, but you are not choosing the right path..  clue: a less fatal one would be  best
Kaiser
2009-03-02 06:12:53 pm
What?!
Let's see, then...

After destroying the tube, going down through the door leading to Norfair:
Going in the lower left is a door that leads to the big lava pool: requires Grapple.
The door to the right leads to a missile, then to a room where you'd be stuck forever without Grapple.
The passage near the lower left door goes to the room where:
[1] I can go through the door, find a room with a missile, but returning to the start.
[2] I use the power bomb to start the Hell Dive.

Can't see many options here, unless you hid something on the room [1].
MetroidMst
2009-03-02 07:31:48 pm
Go ahead. Stare.
My guess is you need to explore a room "you'd be stuck in forever" without grapple better. As far as I know there is no perma-stuck room, even that one that looks like you need grapple.
Quietus
2009-03-02 08:49:26 pm
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
My guess is you're stuck in one of the hack's infamous rooms.  I reckon you're on your way to Grapple Beam, so head to the spot in the attached screenshot, and then let these [noembed][url=[/noembed][/url] help you out with instructions. aiwebs_011

attachment:
The Infamous Room.png
Kaiser
2009-03-03 05:40:54 pm
What?!
Yeah, right there.

Just wondering: in what those frogs would help me??

Oh, grin new Just ran on Wave Beam. I'm heading back to Crateria for items, then... I was thinking on going to Maridia, but since the order in which you pick main items is not (so) modified, i think it would be time to travel to Wrecked Ship. Have not seen even a clue of where it might be, but i can find it out.
Quietus
2009-03-03 06:00:57 pm
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Quote from Kaiser:
Just wondering: in what those frogs would help me??


Um, the way that they're saying 'bom, bom, bom' over and over again, and that's what you needed to do in that room. Wink
Kaiser
Kaiser
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Kaiser: 2009-03-05 07:04:40 pm
2009-03-05 06:59:54 pm
What?!
Quote from Kaiser:
Yeah, right there.

Just wondering: in what those frogs would help me??

Oh, grin new Just ran on Wave Beam. I'm heading back to Crateria for items, then... I was thinking on going to Maridia, but since the order in which you pick main items is not (so) modified, i think it would be time to travel to Wrecked Ship. Have not seen even a clue of where it might be, but i can find it out.

aiwebs_017 d'oh! aiwebs_009 No i can't!

>> type >> www.quietus.com
>> [loading]
>> ...
>> ......
>> .........
>> [Quietus the SM:R Genius [Interface]]
>> [Type in the items you have and Quietus will tell you what to do next]
>> type >> M-111 S-10 P-11 E-6 R-1 Charge Ice Wave Spazer X-Ray Grapple Varia Morph Bomb Wall-Boots Speed Booster Guard1 Guard3
>> [Searching database]
>> ...
>> ......
>> .........
>> [Quietus the SM:R Genius says:]
Quietus
2009-03-05 08:24:59 pm
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Stop making me out to be the all-knowledgable one about this hack. Embarassed  I haven't played it for a while, so I may yet be rusty, but...

It sounds like you have the majority of the ingredients to head into north-eastern Crateria, and start working your way down the eastern edge.

If you hit water, you'll know you're going the right way, as your reward helps.

To get there, head from your ship through the door in the bottom right-hand corner, bomb underneath the Guardian and head through the door in the top right-hand corner.  If you find the room too tough, you can acquire the Hi-Jump boots from the room 14 map blocks east from Spore Spawn.

I hope I'm right, but somebody who has played it more recently would be better help.  (Like Opium...)
Kaiser
Kaiser
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Kaiser: 2009-03-07 06:51:40 pm
2009-03-07 06:29:48 pm
What?!
[1] Going up THAT part?!?! Shocked I don't have enough overpowered-lucky-1337 longwalljumping skills! I'd need HJ boots to get there. And i have tried it, not enough space for a shortcharge shinespark. (just tried using another longer part of the room...).Embarassed

[2] But, as i could see, there's no room 14 map blocks east from Spore Spawn. I used X-Ray on all the rooms that surrounded that area, and found no way to reach it. Unless i should look a little bit farther, there's those rooms that go across others (like many in Cliffhanger).

[EDIT] By the way, thank you sigfried and all the guys who helped you at making the physics changes in Redesign.
I can't play the normal SM!!!!!
Crouch jumping and mid-air re-spin are not present.
While in ball form she goes too fast, and she loses too much time falling.
MetroidMst
2009-03-07 07:27:54 pm
Go ahead. Stare.
To get to Hi-Jump you need to explore a one block room with bombs. (Where at should be somewhat obvious.)

If you find a purple door underneath you have the right path.
Kaiser
2009-03-07 07:40:06 pm
What?!
Thanks for the info!

And i have discovered something that can't be explored as a technique, i think.
Underwater Infinite Bomb Jump
Why it can't be used as a real technique? It requires a very precise timing and goes too slow.
Though it could be used to climb 1 or 2 blocks, it's really tiring to make more way with this.
Quietus
2009-03-07 08:16:44 pm
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
Kaiser: The Hi-jump boots are 14 blocks east of Spore Spawn, but the entrance is elsewhere - see screenshot.

Oh, and I'm sure the underwater IBJ is known in this hack.

attachment:
Entrance.png
Kaiser
2009-03-08 06:36:28 pm
What?!
Aye, i have located it. Weird thing is that i recall having entered there the first time and NOTICED the blocks, but didn't bother on checking them. Embarassed And when i was looking for the Hi-Jump boots room and checked all nearby rooms, i simply forgot to check it.  EmbarassedEmbarassed
Kaiser
2009-03-17 03:35:22 pm
What?!
Here i am to revive this topic! grin new
After i realized that i could never find the way out of the Lost Caverns, i looked for its answer in youtube Embarassed, though that was the last help i really needed. Right now i THINK i know where the 12° Guardian is (Area 1 - Maridia). Why should i think that it IS where it seems to be? Because of the terrible entrance it has Evil or Very Mad

[Throatcutting]Where's the emotion while fighting Ridley?
Draygoon's room (not Draygoon himself) really meant a challenge, but Ridley was about the same thing in the original Confused

BTW, what opens the door after the Bomb Chozo? Having ALL the Guardians deactivaded?
Opium
2009-03-17 06:41:11 pm
Quote from Kaiser:
Here i am to revive this topic! grin new
After i realized that i could never find the way out of the Lost Caverns, i looked for its answer in youtube Embarassed, though that was the last help i really needed. Right now i THINK i know where the 12째 Guardian is (Area 1 - Maridia). Why should i think that it IS where it seems to be? Because of the terrible entrance it has Evil or Very Mad

[Throatcutting]Where's the emotion while fighting Ridley?
Draygoon's room (not Draygoon himself) really meant a challenge, but Ridley was about the same thing in the original Confused

BTW, what opens the door after the Bomb Chozo? Having ALL the Guardians deactivaded?


There are 3 chozo guardians in maridia, not sure which 2 you have already found.  The gray door in the bomb torizo's room does not open, ever.
FirePhoenix
2009-03-17 08:25:55 pm
Correction, the gray door in BT's room does open, but not until the very end of the game. Wink
Opium
2009-03-17 10:08:00 pm
Quote from FirePhoenix0:
Correction, the gray door in BT's room does open, but not until the very end of the game. Wink




AHHHHH so that's where they are......
Sadiztik Fish
2009-03-20 02:04:29 am
OMG FLAN!!!!!!!
Yep. I remember when I first played through. There's a reason you get about 30mins for the escape. The map really is incredibly huge, and it takes 20 mins just to get back to the ship, but having to run halfway across Crateria and back again just to save the damn animals was rediculous. What did they ever do for me? lol.
Opium
2009-03-20 03:22:15 am
That escape sequence is the most intense to date, the animals truly are the last thing on my mind throughout the whole ordeal.  I usually make it back to to the ship with plenty of time to spare, I'll be sure to go over there and get them next time.  I can't tell you how many times I visited that door on my first playthrough to see if it had unlocked.  I finally gave up and decided that it must be part of the escape route.  After I went through the escape route for the first time and realized that I never went anywhere near that door, I decided that it must be a fake.  Good to know!
Kaiser
2009-03-20 01:54:25 pm
What?!
The etecoons did not do anything superb, the dachora opens a way up in her room after you manage to free her.
Opium
2009-03-20 02:55:28 pm
So when you free the animals, the dachora actually opens up a new path for you?  Where does it lead ?
Quietus
Quietus
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Quietus: 2009-03-20 05:42:28 pm
2009-03-20 05:33:00 pm
Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!
No, I think he's referring to the part where you have to find a secret entrance to get to a gate, to let the Dachora out, so that it destroys the enemy-breakable blocks, to allow you to get through to the other side.

The room in Saturn's vid here after 5:10: