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Aruki: 2010-10-01 01:54:44 pm
Aruki: 2010-10-01 01:54:10 pm
I've been on a roll with discoveries the last 2-3 days :P most significantly the last two SWs I found allow for Spider Ball to be skipped completely. Spider is actually only ever required in three rooms - for Hazard Shield, then in Defense Access and Mine Lift. Hazard's skippable so no worries there.

For Defense Access:



For Mine Lift:



so yeah... I'm not sure if the Phazon Quarry SW can be entered without the tiny height boost from Screw Attack, but either way since a third energy cell can be skipped now, this is 20%, getting Screw Attack but skipping the third energy cell and Spider.

also, given that both SWs are right in the way and the wallcrawls seem relatively quick and painless, plus that Phazon Quarry's SW lets you wallcrawl backwards through the mines which is a shorter route than going forwards, it seems to me like theres a good chance that it's faster to skip spider in any%. Probably 3-4 minutes saved at most... needs timing.

I'll play through 20% to confirm everything later today after I've had some sleep...
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I'll play through 20% to confirm everything later today after I've had some sleep...


Stream please! :P
I was planning on it :P Got a much much better streaming setup now than I did when I was doing 21% prime 1 so the quality hopefully won't be total shit.
Anywhere, everywhere
Holy shit dude I love this. A stream would be so awesome.
I like turtles.
I'm torn right now.  On the one hand, item skips are awesome.  On the other hand, so is the Spider Ball.  Admittedly not as awesome in Corruption as in Return of Samus, though.
paraxade is the master of percent drop.
my umbrella goes directly to Bankai
wooo. mp3 beat mp1 for 20% and looks like SA is mp3's varia/dark suit.

i really want to check out that stream.
Oh man, FOUR SWs and skipping the Spider Ball all in the span of two days?

And the gap between your skills and everyone else's increases yet again! gah Seriously, take a break, man! You're making us look bad!
going to start streaming in a minute - http://m2k2.taigaforum.com/post/paraxade_metroid_prime_3__202.html
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9356/vlcsnap2010100207h44m40.png
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1424/vlcsnap2010100207h44m57.png

20% confirmed! if anyone was interested in watching but missed the stream, it's recorded on ustream, minus the wallcrawl around Mine Lift... apparently I reached the recording limit and didn't notice until after the wallcrawl <_<

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9944033
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9949328
my umbrella goes directly to Bankai
i want to kick myself because i fell asleep before the wallcrawling started and i was really looking forward to it.

good to see 20% is done. it looks like it can be ran good.
not evil,just hungry
out of curiosity, does this skip behave like the hyper shield skip where it later gives you the item without the percent increase?
ANKOKU
It'd have to be tested to see if it gives you the Spider Ball, though I doubt it would.
it doesn't. no reason it would, it doesnt give you screw attack either
Hazard Shield is a special case from what I understand because it's tied to your appearance after defeating Omega Ridley.