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ryu
2016-04-14 12:47:59 pm
welcome to 1990
DJGrenola
2016-04-14 12:51:22 pm
yeah graphics support has been one of linux's big problems for decades :/

AMD and nvidia have never been able properly to open source their drivers because of non-disclosure agreements with other companies

I kind of wish intel would start releasing high end graphics hardware because you could just buy intel GPUs and then support would just come with the linux kernel, you wouldn't need to worry about it
ryu
2016-04-14 12:58:14 pm
I think most websites are loading in tablet mode rotfl
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ryu: 2016-04-14 01:00:14 pm
2016-04-14 12:59:47 pm
Okay I found the official driver download page, downloaded a file and opened it. Now it opened a bunch of code that I can't scroll through while there's a super slowly progressing loading bar at the top.
I hope that's correct aiwebs_008
ryu
2016-04-14 01:00:44 pm
I don't even see what that smily looks like lol
ryu
2016-04-14 01:02:38 pm
Ok no way that was correct. I need to run the program. Not open it is a text file
DJGrenola
2016-04-14 01:03:33 pm
is it nvidia? if you're using the file from nvidia's site it'll be a .run file which you need to make executable and then run, but there's some kernel source packages and stuff you need to install as well

it's honestly a lot easier to find an unofficial .deb package and install that, although I'm not sure where you get them from
ryu
2016-04-14 01:04:59 pm
I'm sure I already found one, but I thought installing an official driver would be easier
ryu
2016-04-14 01:08:05 pm
Man how do I even switch to the root user account lol
ryu
2016-04-14 01:13:19 pm
I must have mistyped my password twice in the same way when asked for it during installation lol
Can't get in there

........
DJGrenola
2016-04-14 01:13:36 pm
it's a pain lol, you need to shut down X windows, you can usually get a system console by pressing ctrl-alt-F1, then log in as a normal user, then you can get a root shell by typing "sudo bash -" and entering your normal password, the command prompt should then have a hash (#) in it, which shows you're root

then to shut down X you need to use systemctl, it'll be something like

systemctl stop lightdm

or

systemctl stop kdm

or

systemctl stop gdm

depending on which desktop manager you're using

then you should be able to run the nvidia installer from that console

hang on, phone call lol
ryu
2016-04-14 01:15:10 pm
lol thanks so far
ryu
2016-04-14 01:20:43 pm
I was totally stuck with no way out in the system console until I held crt+alt and randomly pressed F* buttons rotfl
DJGrenola
2016-04-14 01:21:42 pm
sorry yeah I should have mentioned that hah
DJGrenola
2016-04-14 01:23:52 pm
ryu
2016-04-14 01:25:47 pm
Thanks, I think I almost have it though. Just need to turn off X and then type in the command that runs the file ( as root). I already managed the latter so I'll follow your instructions and close X

btw once I'm done how do I turn X back on? i have very little experience in using consoles
DJGrenola
2016-04-14 01:26:54 pm
DJGrenola
2016-04-14 01:28:32 pm
ah it's just "systemctl start" instead of "systemctl stop"

I think debian stable uses systemctl, linux is migrating from the old init.d stuff to systemctl and I'm not sure which versions of which distros have migrated yet

if you can't bring X back up you can probably just reboot the machine but if systemctl stop works then systemctl start should also work
ryu
2016-04-14 01:28:57 pm
thanks!
ryu
2016-04-14 01:37:26 pm
Now it crashed because it couldn't find gcc in my path

Is that what you meant with "kernel source packages and stuff"?
ryu
2016-04-14 01:38:40 pm
gcc comes with mingw, which I wanted to get anyways. Now which is the one I'm running on Windows...
DJGrenola
2016-04-14 01:39:33 pm
no you need the version that the kernel was built with .. you can install multiple versions anyway

that line from the wiki I linked may do the trick

aptitude install linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 build-essential
ryu
2016-04-14 01:50:26 pm
Thanks, that did it indeed!

The drivers are working now. Phew. Still missing system32 compatbility libs according to an error though. Would I need them at all?
ryu
2016-04-14 01:54:46 pm
Guess I can just google what exactly that means for me. But I'll leave that and all other tasks for tomorrow. Just getting the graphics drivers took longer than I expected lol
DJGrenola
2016-04-14 01:55:17 pm
I think if you're going to use steam or something like that then you'll probably need them but you can just re-run the installer to install them again, I can't remember 100% how that bit works