I have something to admit... [locked]

2006-01-13 03:29:43 pm

Quote from Yoshi348:

Quote from Spine Shark:

Quote from Dragonfangs:

I've noticed I'm not the same person online as offline. I've also noticed it's not because of anonymity, but rather because I'm writing instead of speaking. Somehow this boosts my confidence majorly and, as a result, I'm a lot more open and talkative while online.

I have the exact same...thing.

I think a lot of it, at least for me, is that no-one expects you to respond quickly, so you can take your time with your words to say what you really want to say.

That's my problem too. I have some sort of blockage sometimes between the words i want to say and actually saying them. When I write or type, things just flow. Its easier. I'm kind of an automatic writer. Most everything I say (in text) seems to appear before I realize what I've even written. Its almost as if I was made to communicate with my subconscious and not words...so conversational skills are not really second nature to me. There's a lot more work involved in actually speaking.
Not that I won't go out and at least TRY talk to just about anyone in real life, but it takes the stress level wayyy down to do this instead.

[quote="Yoshi348"][quote="Spine Shark"][quote="Dragonfangs"]I've noticed I'm not the same person online as offline. I've also noticed it's not because of anonymity, but rather because I'm writing instead of speaking. Somehow this boosts my confidence majorly and, as a result, I'm a lot more open and talkative while online.[/quote]
I have the exact same...thing.[/quote]

I think a lot of it, at least for me, is that no-one expects you to respond quickly, so you can take your time with your words to say what you really want to say.[/quote]

That's my problem too.  I have some sort of blockage sometimes between the words i want to say and actually saying them.  When I write or type, things just flow.  Its easier.  I'm kind of an automatic writer.  Most everything I say (in text) seems to appear before I realize what I've even written.  Its almost as if I was made to communicate with my subconscious and not words...so conversational skills are not really second nature to me.  There's a lot more work involved in actually speaking.  
Not that I won't go out and at least TRY talk to just about anyone in real life, but it takes the stress level wayyy down to do this instead.

rain

2006-01-14 12:22:30 am

I take the world to seriously and think others don't take it seriously enough, almost to the point of arrogance.

I like to disprove and reprove religion with theories that wind up looping on one another proving itself impossible without the other. (my latest is about christianity: If Adam and Eve ate the fruit that bestowed wisdom and intellegance upon them it made them capable of science. However science disproves religion, thus disproving science without religion as wisdom would not have been gained in this manner.)

Ps: I love paradox and plot holes!

SABERinBLUE

2006-01-14 12:31:02 am

Cook of the Sea

Quote from rain:

I like to disprove and reprove religion with theories that wind up looping on one another proving itself impossible without the other. (my latest is about christianity: If Adam and Eve ate the fruit that bestowed wisdom and intellegance upon them it made them capable of science. However science disproves religion, thus disproving science without religion as wisdom would not have been gained in this manner.)

Wow, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my entire life.

rain

2006-01-14 12:32:52 am

Quote from SABERinBLUE:

Quote from rain:

I like to disprove and reprove religion with theories that wind up looping on one another proving itself impossible without the other. (my latest is about christianity: If Adam and Eve ate the fruit that bestowed wisdom and intellegance upon them it made them capable of science. However science disproves religion, thus disproving science without religion as wisdom would not have been gained in this manner.)

Wow, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my entire life.

Put simply, I get bored easy. *Sigh* I need a hobby... or eight...

SABERinBLUE

2006-01-14 01:15:04 am

Cook of the Sea

Try a webcomic. They allow you to put insane ideas about life and existence onto the internets wrapped in a fun candy shell. No one will be the wiser.

arkarian

2006-01-14 03:14:54 pm

red chamber dream

Erm...how exactly does science disprove religion?

SABERinBLUE

2006-01-14 03:44:34 pm

Cook of the Sea

Ark, is it really worth it?

fIshbOnEz

2006-01-14 04:58:14 pm

It all really boils down to what you want to believe. You will have a hard time turning a christian towards atheism and the other way around.
About the adam and eve thing, what were you trying to say there? That they were capable of science? Aren't we all to some degree? Then again, according to the bible we all come after them so being capable of science may stem from the eating of the apple. Im just trying to make sence of his statement.

Confessions :
I dont really like my AP Comp science course
Ive only beaten three Metroid games
I have yet to find religion
I am scared to death of the dark
I am paranoid to the point of nonsensability, probobly couples with the above
I dont really know if I like the people I call my friends..
I'd probobly rather live as a hermit than deal with peoples ignorance
My methods of grammer and syntax are a surprise to even me..

Skreemaster

2006-01-14 06:21:20 pm

I'll be back. Maybe...

Not a GOD discussion again! I thought everything that needed to be said had been said in the Debate topic, wherever it went...

SamuraiSamus

2006-01-14 06:26:20 pm

Beware: off duty ninja

there was a debate topic on m2k2?

I know there's one over at SCU. . . . .but there was a debate topic here on m2k2? or would this be long before I knew of this place. either way. . . .

Supuh

2006-01-14 06:49:06 pm

Quote from fIshbOnEz:

It all really boils down to what you want to believe. You will have a hard time turning a christian towards atheism and the other way around.
About the adam and eve thing, what were you trying to say there? That they were capable of science? Aren't we all to some degree?

... if the bible was right, then one of adam and eve's kids had to either

A. mack on each other
or
B. Do their mom

... either way, according to christianity, they sinned thier way to hell and back. just another reason why im athiest

I hope this getts sigged

SABERinBLUE

2006-01-14 06:55:11 pm

Cook of the Sea

*sigh* I really effing doubt that God would hold it against Cain for doing his sister, the last woman on Earth.

But I don't believe that the Genesis story is meant to be taken literally anyway.

Skreemaster

2006-01-14 06:58:55 pm

I'll be back. Maybe...

The bible neglects to mention the many servants, slaves and concubines who just happen to become wives whenever a wife is necessary in the "and X begot Y..." parts. It is rather confusing.

btw, i think the debate topic got mod'd out of existence after befalling the fate of all such topics and turning into an uncivilised argument. that or disappearing in a major fault without a trace... which is odd as i'm sure it was stickied.

DeathNoble

2006-01-14 07:18:43 pm

Abraham % Sarah= half-siblings.

Also, humans were wiped in the flood when GOD tried to reset the world. So you couldm always talk about Noah's family "macking on" one another. But all anybody ever cares about is Adam and Eve. Probably because they don't know diddley about history when it comes to religion.

13M13

2006-01-14 07:49:58 pm

l'appel du vide

Science cannot prove/disprove atheism/theism.

Science is agnostic.

Duo

2006-01-14 08:04:57 pm

That's not true. There are many different types of science, some who oppose theism, and some who support it.

mangadood

2006-01-14 08:26:42 pm

Too many fangirls to count

My "theory" is that science is just a religion in itself, except the most popular one.

nate

2006-01-14 08:31:02 pm

yeah, i have faith in science.

CALFoolio

2006-01-14 09:22:29 pm

Quote from TRH:

I hatez the spiders.

I keep a live spider in my car to kill ants. It does a great job, except it tends to scare the shit out of passengers when it drops down onto their heads (or my head) XD

SamuraiSamus

2006-01-14 10:39:28 pm

Beware: off duty ninja

Quote from Duo Maxwell:

That's not true. There are many different types of science, some who oppose theism, and some who support it.

sorry duo, 13M13 got it right on that one. science is agnostic by nature. science needs questions in order to sustaini itself. scientists would be the ones who are either for or against the whole religion thing as each scientist on his/her own have thier beliefs about the world. not trying to flame, but I think that's what you meant.

fIshbOnEz

2006-01-14 11:01:38 pm

Not to draw from a point of irritation around my people, but there was a scientist from Dan Browns 'Angels and Demons' that was was studying science to fully understand, and thusly become closer, to his god. Im not trying to use a fictional character to prove a point, but Im saying that there may be scientists out there trying to do the same exact thing. Science and religion will never be fully seperated, inversly they will never be fully seperated. They're very nature controdict the other, but for one to disappear is death to the other. Meaning, if Religion were to disappear then science would lose its meaning. Boiled down to it science is really only trying to uncover how things came to be, by this definition you may call it a religion then, but essentially when religion is not there in the first place to pose the initial question of How and Why, what can science accomplish? Can it exist without Religion? Religion is doomed to disappear as well if science were to go. If there was nothing to test the faith of those who hold dear to their beliefs, science being the tester while religion followers being the holders, then faith never gets stronger. Eventually the ideal of faith gets forgotten, this forces the next generation to begin faithless. This is the destruction of religion, never initializing with it instilled or passed on from an elder.
If you really need this clarified, you can think of science as Neo and religion as Agent Smith from The Matrix, or the other way around it works either way.

nate

2006-01-14 11:46:20 pm

Quote from CALFoolio:

Quote from TRH:

I hatez the spiders.

I keep a live spider in my car to kill ants. It does a great job, except it tends to scare the gunship out of passengers when it drops down onto their heads (or my head) XD

wow ... if you did not totally seem like the kind of person to do something like that, you would be having serious credibility problems with me atm. :P

trh

2006-01-15 05:02:31 am

Quote from CALFoolio:

Quote from TRH:

I hatez the spiders.

I keep a live spider in my car to kill ants. It does a great job, except it tends to scare the gunship out of passengers when it drops down onto their heads (or my head) XD

You'll never be kidnapping me (again?).

radu242

2006-01-15 08:20:17 am

Quote from CALFoolio:

Quote from TRH:

I hatez the spiders.

I keep a live spider in my car to kill ants. It does a great job, except it tends to scare the gunship out of passengers when it drops down onto their heads (or my head) XD

Where does it hang out? There are many places where it could get squashed.

nate

2006-01-15 12:36:20 pm

i wouldn't mind cal kidnapping trh as long as i get him immediately afterward. actually, that's a plan right there ... less work for me woohoo!