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ShadowMagus
2004-04-09 04:37:24 pm
I'm having an argument with my friend about this, and I can't seem to find the old topic.  His main reason is that "It looks like a Core-X when it dies."  I told him:

1- Because the X reproduce asexually, Tallon IV would be overrun by X parasites whithin days of the meteor's crash.  He says the phazon "Somehow neutralizes this".

2- In the fight against Prime, it creates metroids, correct?  a- an X parasite can't create Metroids and b- if they're X parasites, doesn't that defeat his own argument about the phazon?  And if it IS an X, Samus's neural systems would be overloaded looooong before Fusion.
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Toozin
2004-04-09 04:39:54 pm
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
Yup, you got it. Those are pretty much the main reasons.

Also, the other side has an incredibly weak argument. "It looks like an X" doesn't cut it. You look like a monkey. Are you a monkey? I didn't think so.  There's canonical evidence to disprove that Prime is an X, but there's nothing in the canon that even remoteley suggests it.
Electrometer Prime
2004-04-09 04:44:53 pm
At the scene after the mission final screen when you complete the game with 100%, once we saw it, we started to believe that Metroid Prime was Mother Brain.
Metroid Prime
2004-04-09 04:46:58 pm
If Metroid Prime was an X type parasite, it would naturally kill the Metroids when they were spawned, he is dominant over the Metroids, in size and power.  Metroids were created by the Chozo to maintain balance so that neither the Metroids or X would dominate the universe.  They are naturally enemies, from teh start to the end.
Toozin
2004-04-09 04:48:56 pm
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
Quote from MMcLean:
If Metroid Prime was an X type parasite, it would naturally kill the Metroids when they were spawned, he is dominant over the Metroids, in size and power.  Metroids were created by the Chozo to maintain balance so that neither the Metroids or X would dominate the universe.  They are naturally enemies, from teh start to the end.

Balance? Metroids eat X, not the other way around. That's why there was no X on SR388 during M2, because the Metroids were eating them.
Kaotikeval
2004-04-09 05:06:38 pm
Yeah, Metroids are the natural predators of the X.  Also, when and where is it said that the Chozo created the Metroids??  I'm not saying it's not true, but I never read that anywhere.  Please explain.
Toozin
2004-04-09 05:11:06 pm
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
Quote from Kaotikeval:
Also, when and where is it said that the Chozo created the Metroids??

Metroid Fusion manual.
Kaotikeval
2004-04-09 08:05:32 pm
Really??  I'm gonna read it.  Hold on.

...Damn, I can't believe I missed that.  Did they decide that little shift of history while making Fusion??  It's cool, but I never figured that the Chozo had been responsible for such a vile scourge.  Don't you just love irony?
Syl
2004-04-10 02:14:52 am
nah, you can't even begin to understand the irony of it.

Hell, it was mother brain who was behind both the designing of the metroids, AND the reason they became the scourge of the galaxy.  not to mention why theres no chozo left on Zebes or SR388 for the most part. 

Of course, mother brain *USED* to be a nice greatly intelligent super computer, but they still haven't explained what happened to make her turn against the chozo.

Anyway, the prime is an X argument is just plain ridicoulous. and its so blatantly obvious that its NOT.
Toozin
2004-04-10 02:32:48 am
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
They didn't just pull it out of their ass. I think the Super Metroid manual, and possibly the Metroid 1 manual, says the Metroids were created by an ancient and powerful race, which fits the Chozo exactly.

Anyone else think I should disable that particular censor? As comical as it is, I don't think that word needs a-censorin'.
ShadowMagus
2004-04-10 02:53:42 am
Please do.  Ass is not even censored on Gfaqs.
compiler
2004-04-10 02:16:58 pm
Quote:
Hell, it was mother brain who was behind both the designing of the metroids, AND the reason they became the scourge of the galaxy. not to mention why theres no chozo left on Zebes or SR388 for the most part.

Of course, mother brain *USED* to be a nice greatly intelligent super computer, but they still haven't explained what happened to make her turn against the chozo.


Please explain all of this. Did you get it from the japanese comics or something?

Also, does anyone know a accurate compilation of Metroid History?
Toozin
2004-04-10 03:54:19 pm
Not impossible
just highly unlikely
Ass. Ass ass ass.

Wheefun.
chinchillax13514
2004-04-10 03:56:11 pm
Cool. Adam kept on reminding me of the terrors of the Navigation Rooms...
Yoshi348
2004-04-10 05:00:09 pm
PAGE BREAKER
Ready and willing.
Quote from compiler:
Also, does anyone know a accurate compilation of Metroid History?


http://metroid.retrofaction.com/analyses/
Syl
2004-04-10 07:46:14 pm
Quote from compiler:
Quote:
Hell, it was mother brain who was behind both the designing of the metroids, AND the reason they became the scourge of the galaxy. not to mention why theres no chozo left on Zebes or SR388 for the most part.

Of course, mother brain *USED* to be a nice greatly intelligent super computer, but they still haven't explained what happened to make her turn against the chozo.


Please explain all of this. Did you get it from the japanese comics or something?

Also, does anyone know a accurate compilation of Metroid History?


actually, yes, I did get it from the japanese E-manga which is hosted over on www.metroid.jp (and is 100% canon)
however, its currently stored on my harddrive, and i have no clue where i found the second one translated.  I know it was a link from this board however...

Even by looking at the pretty pictures without the translation you can understand the majority of it.. but certain things like the Alkaloid.  (source of energy for metroids and the suit.. i believe) are only explained through th text.
Kaotikeval
2004-04-11 02:26:32 am
Yeah, I never thought for even one second that Prime is a core X.  It never crossed my mind.
MetalRidley
2004-04-11 02:39:32 am
But don't tell that to some of those people on the GameFaqs forums.  Rolling Eyes
Syl
2004-04-11 09:16:09 am
Quote from Kaotikeval:
Yeah, I never thought for even one second that Prime is a core X.  It never crossed my mind.


same here, when i first heard the idea, i was just thinking "how the hell can someone be so stupid?"
then that person continued to post, and WAS horribly stupid.
chinchillax13514
2004-04-11 03:19:56 pm
Prime just kinda looked like Prime...then I was introduced to GameFAQs...and now, I keep having all these n00bish thoughts. It's scary.
Bazooka Joe
2004-04-11 04:05:22 pm
Aren't metroids immune to the X?
Blublu
2004-04-11 04:11:02 pm
Disclaimer: This post isn't meant to be serious, or anything.

Oh, but what if Metroid Prime is both a metroid AND a Core X ? They met on that asteroid, and the metroid started eating the X, but while ti was hapening they both got mutated by the phazon resulting in that horrible tentacle mess that is Metroid Prime.

Or maybe the "prime" part actually means something. Maybe it's the first metroid? Maybe it's the source of both phazon and metroids....

*ducks*
Yoshi348
2004-04-11 04:54:56 pm
PAGE BREAKER
Ready and willing.
You're ALL wrong. Prime is the newest Pokemon! Gah, how can you be so BLIND!  Rolling Eyes
ryu
2004-04-11 06:00:33 pm
Quote from Yoshi348:
You're ALL wrong. Prime is the newest Pokemon! Gah, how can you be so BLIND!  Rolling Eyes


Nope..he's a digimon  Rolling Eyes
Syl
2004-04-11 06:29:33 pm
Quote from Ryu:
Quote from Yoshi348:
You're ALL wrong. Prime is the newest Pokemon! Gah, how can you be so BLIND!  Rolling Eyes


Nope..he's a digimon  Rolling Eyes


he can't be a digimon, it isn't "metroidprimemon" all digimon names have to have the "mon" suffix.

..however..

Metroid Prime! I choose you!

I wonder why nintendo hasn't made a pokemon that resembles a metroid yet, it has evolutions, the first stage is cute, it seems like a perfect match.