[SM]Ceribris( version 6.1! + jump fix)

2009-08-27 06:40:03 am

Quote from Sturmvogel Prime:

The game crashes on this room in Brinstar.

To help with Sturmvogel:
An all black pic with nothing to see but the HUD doesn't really help. Does it crash DURING the transition? Although from the mini-map, it looks like that is the left entrance of the Brinstar room with Morph Ball? If it is freezing during transitions, then my first guess is Bydolord overwrote Enemy/PLM data with another room and it won't load. Enter that room in SMILE and goto Help> All Offscreen Enemies to 0/0. Do the same for PLMs and see if any unknown enemies pop up.

Let me know if that helps and I can further assist if nothing works....I haven't really tried this out yet.

bydolord

2009-08-28 12:45:54 pm

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Quote from TAxxOUTBR3AKxx:

Quote from Sturmvogel Prime:

The game crashes on this room in Brinstar.

To help with Sturmvogel:
An all black pic with nothing to see but the HUD doesn't really help. Does it crash DURING the transition? Although from the mini-map, it looks like that is the left entrance of the Brinstar room with Morph Ball? If it is freezing during transitions, then my first guess is Bydolord overwrote Enemy/PLM data with another room and it won't load. Enter that room in SMILE and goto Help> All Offscreen Enemies to 0/0. Do the same for PLMs and see if any unknown enemies pop up.

Let me know if that helps and I can further assist if nothing works....I haven't really tried this out yet.

( please note all PLM and enemy data has not been changed )i haven't had any problems with this room,but i'll try it on a different emulator if there is I'll make a by-pass room.

SpringLoaded12

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SpringLoaded12: 2009-08-28 09:57:20 pm

2009-08-28 09:35:22 pm

"How come I never get the sniper rifle?"

Alright, I finally got the game working! Mr. Green

The changes to Crateria I noticed as soon as my ship landed.

You got rid of Brinstar?!

However, I also noticed a glitch fairly quickly:
Normally, when jumping in mid-air towards the left or the right, the game allows you to switch direction in mid-air. This is vital in some areas of the game. This works fine for a normal jump. However, I noticed with spin jumping that it still works fine when jumping to the left and then switching to the right, but does not work when spin jumping to the right. While it doesn't seem like much, spin jumps to the right are remarkably hindered by the lack of midair direction-switching. I recorded a video of it, but it's not very clear as you can't see me pushing the keys. Also, the file was too big to attach here.

EDIT: Similarly, if you spin-jump to the left and then switch directions to the right, the game won't let you switch back!

Note that this makes precise jumps a lot harder.

bydolord

2009-08-28 10:07:43 pm

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Quote from SpringLoaded12:

Alright, I finally got the game working! Mr. Green

The changes to Crateria I noticed as soon as my ship landed.

You got rid of Brinstar?!

However, I also noticed a glitch fairly quickly:
Normally, when jumping in mid-air towards the left or the right, the game allows you to switch direction in mid-air. This is vital in some areas of the game. This works fine for a normal jump. However, I noticed with spin jumping that it still works fine when jumping to the left and then switching to the right, but does not work when spin jumping to the right. While it doesn't seem like much, spin jumps to the right are remarkably hindered by the lack of midair direction-switching. I recorded a video of it, but it's not very clear as you can't see me pushing the keys. Also, the file was too big to attach here.

EDIT: Similarly, if you spin-jump to the left and then switch directions to the right, the game won't let you switch back!

Note that this makes precise jumps a lot harder.

alright thanks I'll post a fix version :3

[quote="SpringLoaded12"]
Alright, I finally got the game working!  :mrgreen:

The changes to Crateria I noticed as soon as my ship landed.
[spoiler]You got rid of Brinstar?![/spoiler]

However, I also noticed a glitch fairly quickly:
Normally, when jumping in mid-air towards the left or the right, the game allows you to switch direction in mid-air. This is vital in some areas of the game. This works fine for a normal jump. However, I noticed with spin jumping that it still works fine when jumping to the left and then switching to the right, but does not work when spin jumping to the right. While it doesn't seem like much, spin jumps to the right are remarkably hindered by the lack of midair direction-switching. I recorded a video of it, but it's not very clear as you can't see me pushing the keys. Also, the file was too big to attach here.

EDIT: Similarly, if you spin-jump to the left and then switch directions to the right, the game won't let you switch back!

Note that this makes precise jumps a lot harder.
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alright thanks I'll post a fix version :3

aigamerDS

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aigamerDS: 2009-08-29 06:48:01 pm

2009-08-28 11:26:04 pm

Quote from SpringLoaded12:

Alright, thanks for the help, I was able to apply the patch! Mr. Green

Unfortunately, the game is now broken. Eh?

After displaying the Nintendo logo, it just stops. Good thing I applied the patch to a copy of the ROM and not the original. Do I need to delete the save files first? Or maybe was it supposed to do that, and I need to push a button to make the game start?

Bear with me please, I'm new at this. Wink

Header and unheader has been a biggest problem to me in the past. The rom you have is unheader, but you need header rom to patch with. To fix this, you need to download smile to add header to your rom. After you open smile, follow the rest below (click "add header" instead).

EDIT: Ah crap! I was one page late. Sorry about that.

Anyway, I found a place where you can get stuck. Also, I don't know where to go from here.

EDIT2: I got past through this two blocks height. After I got missiles and walk to the door on right, the game froze.

EDIT3: ~~After I got a bomb, it no longer cause the room on the right to freeze.~~

EDIT4: Correction, after I grab missiles, left the brinstar and then come back, it no longer cause the room to freeze.

[quote="SpringLoaded12"]
Alright, thanks for the help, I was able to apply the patch!  :mrgreen:

Unfortunately, the game is now broken.  :huh_orig:  After displaying the Nintendo logo, it just stops. Good thing I applied the patch to a copy of the ROM and not the original. Do I need to delete the save files first? Or maybe was it supposed to do that, and I need to push a button to make the game start?

Bear with me please, I'm new at this.  :wink:
[/quote]

[s]Header and unheader has been a biggest problem to me in the past. The rom you have is unheader, but you need header rom to patch with. To fix this, you need to download [url=http://jathys.zophar.net/files/smile.zip]smile[/url] to add header to your rom. After you open smile, follow the rest below (click "add header" instead).[/s]
[spoiler][img]http://forum.metroid2002.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7415.0;attach=9578[/img][/spoiler]

EDIT: Ah crap! I was one page late. Sorry about that.

Anyway, I found a place where you can get stuck. Also, I don't know where to go from here.
[img]http://forum.metroid2002.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8420.0;attach=9728[/img]

EDIT2: I got past through this two blocks height. After I got missiles and walk to the door on right, the game froze.
[img]http://forum.metroid2002.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8420.0;attach=9729[/img]

EDIT3: [s]After I got a bomb, it no longer cause the room on the right to freeze.[/s]

EDIT4: Correction, after I grab missiles, left the brinstar and then come back, it no longer cause the room to freeze.

attachments:

SMETROID ceres000.png

TAxxOUTBR3AKxx

2009-08-29 06:00:25 am

Ahh....seems like an early state went bad somehow...Now you can look into it further.

bydolord

2009-08-29 12:05:18 pm

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Please note this must be patched to a FRESH ROM!!! not an older version of my game!!!!,otherwise you will never play the new release and you will get many,many glitches!!!! Exclamation

SpringLoaded12

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SpringLoaded12: 2009-09-02 04:17:14 pm

2009-08-29 06:32:04 pm

"How come I never get the sniper rifle?"

Wow, you patched the game fast! I haven't applied the new version yet, but I was exploring v6.0 and, after getting the bombs, I noticed another glitch.

I had the morph ball and the bombs, but not the missiles ~~(where the hell are they?)~~ and went through the room shown in "Glitch screenshot 1" attached, and in the room to the right of that, after running a short distance, the game freezes. I'm not sure if this happens in v6.1, but I'll test it as soon as I can. Also, based on aigamerDS's post, it looks like this glitch is fixed if you have the bombs AND the missiles. I'll have to test that as well.

Hmm, maybe being a beta tester would be a fun line of work.

Also, one thing I think is weird. It looks like aigamerDS took a screenshot of the same room I took a screenshot of. But if you look, the doors on his version are completely different. Why is that? He was running 6.1, at the time I was still running 6.0.

EDIT: After playing for another minute or so, I discovered the missiles. I immediately headed for the room that froze before, and found that it still freezes anyway! How odd. I shall soon test this again in v6.1.

Wow, you patched the game fast! I haven't applied the new version yet, but I was exploring v6.0 and, after getting the bombs, I noticed another glitch.

I had the morph ball and the bombs, but not the missiles [s](where the hell are they?)[/s] and went through the room shown in "Glitch screenshot 1" attached, and in the room to the right of that, after running a short distance, the game freezes. I'm not sure if this happens in v6.1, but I'll test it as soon as I can. Also, based on aigamerDS's post, it looks like this glitch is fixed if you have the bombs AND the missiles. I'll have to test that as well.

Hmm, maybe being a beta tester would be a fun line of work.

[s]Also, one thing I think is weird. It looks like aigamerDS took a screenshot of the same room I took a screenshot of. But if you look, the doors on his version are completely different.  :huh_orig:  Why is that?[/s] He was running 6.1, at the time I was still running 6.0.

EDIT: After playing for another minute or so, I discovered the missiles. I immediately headed for the room that froze before, and found that it still freezes anyway! How odd. I shall soon test this again in v6.1.

attachment:

Glitch screenshot 1.png

aigamerDS

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aigamerDS: 2009-08-29 07:58:33 pm

2009-08-29 07:54:59 pm

I made a patch that will fix the brinstar freeze glitch and will also fix a place where you can get stuck (the two blocks height). Please note that this patch is for version 6.1 (to modify the already modified hack), do not apply this patch to clean rom.

This patch will fix these bugs below.

attachment:

SMETROID ceres (fix for v6.1).ips

SpringLoaded12

2009-08-29 09:07:14 pm

"How come I never get the sniper rifle?"

I loaded up v6.1 a short time ago.

I discovered that the room freeze glitch is still there, however the glitch is gone once you've retrieved the Charge Beam and the Brinstar-tileset rooms fill with enemies. Not missing much anyway, the only thing there is a Missile Expansion which you can get later on anyway.

Also, great job using tilesets, bydolord! The Tourian remake looks very eccentric and labyrinth-fortress-like, and the spot where the Charge Beam item sits is very cool. I'm quite impressed. Mr. Green

perfectnote

2009-08-29 09:19:09 pm

I've load the game to take a lil' break of my hack, but then : I must be a really stupid, because I don't understand what to do. I've got an energy tank, but that's all. Dunno what to do after that.

bydolord

2009-08-29 11:13:03 pm

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Quote from SpringLoaded12:

I loaded up v6.1 a short time ago.

I discovered that the room freeze glitch is still there, however the glitch is gone once you've retrieved the Charge Beam and the Brinstar-tileset rooms fill with enemies. Not missing much anyway, the only thing there is a Missile Expansion which you can get later on anyway.

Also, great job using tilesets, bydolord! The Tourian remake looks very eccentric and labyrinth-fortress-like, and the spot where the Charge Beam item sits is very cool. I'm quite impressed. Mr. Green

the charge beam platform thing,is really an excuse so that charge is un-skipable,due to the boss trap in super metroid,I thought I should patch that up a bit :3

SpringLoaded12

2009-09-02 04:41:42 pm

"How come I never get the sniper rifle?"

I feel like I'm spamming this thread with the number of posts I put up, but... I'm stuck.

I have the Morph Ball, Bombs, 25 Missiles, and an Energy Tank. Now I can't figure out what to do. Do I go back to my ship? If so, how the hell do I get there? I think I need the Wave Beam to open that one-way gate. Where are the new suits? Where are other beam weapons? I'm lost.

I also encountered another glitch, but it doesn't really affect much and I'm too lazy to make screenshots right now, so I'll post it up later.

Tyjet66

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Tyjet66: 2009-09-02 07:59:07 pm

2009-09-02 07:49:40 pm

What'd you say?

Quote from SpringLoaded12:

I feel like I'm spamming this thread with the number of posts I put up, but... I'm stuck.

I have the Morph Ball, Bombs, 25 Missiles, and an Energy Tank. Now I can't figure out what to do. Do I go back to my ship? If so, how the hell do I get there? I think I need the Wave Beam to open that one-way gate. Where are the new suits? Where are other beam weapons? I'm lost.

I also encountered another glitch, but it doesn't really affect much and I'm too lazy to make screenshots right now, so I'll post it up later.

Not sure why but that post make me want to try this hack. So, I'll try it out. grin new

Sorry I couldn't help you SpringLoaded12.

EDIT:Sorry dude but this room is so full of aggravating fail...

SpringLoaded12

2009-09-04 10:15:31 pm

"How come I never get the sniper rifle?"

Quote from Tyjet66:

Sorry dude but this room is so full of aggravating fail...

Did you read a single other post on this thread? aigamerDS made a patch to apply to v6.1 that fixes that and a freeze glitch in Brinstar. It's 6 posts above this one.

Also, that is not a problem if you have the Morph Ball.

EDIT: Also, how were you able to get your avatar to appear animated? The original image of my avatar is animated, but for some reason it isn't animated here.

Tyjet66

2009-09-05 01:49:40 pm

What'd you say?

Quote from SpringLoaded12:

Did you read a single other post on this thread? aigamerDS made a patch to apply to v6.1 that fixes that and a freeze glitch in Brinstar. It's 6 posts above this one.

Also, that is not a problem if you have the Morph Ball.

EDIT: Also, how were you able to get your avatar to appear animated? The original image of my avatar is animated, but for some reason it isn't animated here.

I didn't read it until after I got stuck there. I didn't find Morph Ball prior to being there either.

For animated avatars make sure the picture you use is: "insert_name_here.gif", the ".gif" is used for animated pictures.

SpringLoaded12

2009-09-06 12:29:48 pm

"How come I never get the sniper rifle?"

My avatar is a .gif . Is there a size limit for them, because I think the forum resized it which might be what caused it to not animate.

Also, a question for bydolord: <whiny voice>I'm stuuuuuuuuck!</whiny voice>

I've got an Energy Tank, Morph Ball, Bombs, Charge Beam, and 25 missiles. I can't find the way back to my ship, and I think I need the wave beam. What do I do?

bydolord

2009-09-06 05:49:49 pm

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Quote from SpringLoaded12:

My avatar is a .gif . Is there a size limit for them, because I think the forum resized it which might be what caused it to not animate.

Also, a question for bydolord: <whiny voice>I'm stuuuuuuuuck!</whiny voice>

I've got an Energy Tank, Morph Ball, Bombs, Charge Beam, and 25 missiles. I can't find the way back to my ship, and I think I need the wave beam. What do I do?

return to the room with the shutter before morph ball bomb the floor in bellow it it will lead back to the red rooms bomb the two small blocks in the floor to find out there super missal.

SpringLoaded12

2009-09-06 07:33:02 pm

"How come I never get the sniper rifle?"

Thanks for the help! That got me right through the shutter, no trouble. But another problem arose (beware, spoiler and profanity)

(See attached image) The fuck is this shit? The door's locked!

attachment:

Glitch screenshot 2.png

perfectnote

2009-09-06 09:33:43 pm

Sorry, can't answer your plead, but maybe someone can help me. I'm stuck at the beginning, with only one energy tank. I don't have anything other than that and I can't find another way.

bydolord

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bydolord: 2009-09-06 10:10:10 pm

2009-09-06 10:05:21 pm

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Quote from SpringLoaded12:

Thanks for the help! That got me right through the shutter, no trouble. But another problem arose (beware, spoiler and profanity)

(See attached image) The fuck is this shit? The door's locked!

have you killed spore spawn?

Quote from perfectnote:

Sorry, can't answer your plead, but maybe someone can help me. I'm stuck at the beginning, with only one energy tank. I don't have anything other than that and I can't find another way.

where are you? i need that to help you are you still were your ship is or have you used the elevator?

perfectnote

2009-09-07 01:54:17 am

Well, after the elevator, there's no other way than the blue door one and I can't go really far, because I need the morphball to go through the passage.

SpringLoaded12

2009-09-07 10:07:13 am

"How come I never get the sniper rifle?"

If Spore Spawn is the boss that leads to the Charge Beam, yes I killed him.

By the way, why do Giant Hoppers do 80 damage on contact?

EDIT: The locked door might be a glitch, or perhaps there's something else I didn't do.

bydolord

2009-09-07 09:00:37 pm

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Quote from SpringLoaded12:

If Spore Spawn is the boss that leads to the Charge Beam, yes I killed him.

By the way, why do Giant Hoppers do 80 damage on contact?

EDIT: The locked door might be a glitch, or perhaps there's something else I didn't do.

hmmm... i'm sure i set it to go with S.spawn alright i'll look into this >.>

SpringLoaded12

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SpringLoaded12: 2009-09-19 07:30:43 pm

2009-09-10 04:52:30 pm

"How come I never get the sniper rifle?"

I tried again after applying aigamerDS's patch, but no, it's still locked. I'm starting the game over to see if defeating Spore Spawn and then going to the Crateria-type place (Kain Lake, I think?) caused the door to lock itself again.

BTW, seriously, why do Giant Hoppers do 80 damage on contact?! That's absurd!

EDIT: Further investigation has revealed the problem! I had been using instant saves, so I saw no need to save at the Save Stations. After saving at one, I returned and found that the gray door lock was no longer there! Unfortunately, now there's something else in the way. Look at the attached image. See that thin bar that's attached to the front of the door? How do I get that thing out of the way? Or, how do I circumvent it?

EDIT2: Further "investigation" reveals that all the locked doors have switched to this bar thingy. Dammit I thought I could make some progress =(

EDIT3: bydolord, where are you? It's been more than a week. I'm trying to find out how to make my own IPS patch to fix this glitch, but it's not going well.

I tried again after applying aigamerDS's patch, but no, it's still locked. I'm starting the game over to see if defeating Spore Spawn and then going to the Crateria-type place (Kain Lake, I think?) caused the door to lock itself again.

BTW, seriously, why do Giant Hoppers do 80 damage on contact?! That's absurd!

EDIT: Further investigation has revealed the problem! I had been using instant saves, so I saw no need to save at the Save Stations. After saving at one, I returned and found that the gray door lock was no longer there! Unfortunately, now there's something else in the way. Look at the attached image. See that thin bar that's attached to the front of the door? How do I get that thing out of the way? Or, how do I circumvent it?

EDIT2: Further "investigation" reveals that all the locked doors have switched to this bar thingy. Dammit I thought I could make some progress  =(

EDIT3: bydolord, where are you? It's been more than a week. I'm trying to find out how to make my own IPS patch to fix this glitch, but it's not going well.

attachment:

Glitch screenshot 3.png