[SM] Super Metroid: Eris

Sturmvogel Prime

2009-08-02 06:03:10 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

Quote from ChozunSDA:

Just got

Spring ball

Where do you get it?

Kriole

2009-08-02 06:17:00 pm

Meri Kurisumasu! ^_^

Quote:

Yeah, I know I'm being choosy.

I could be a bastard and say that missiles are optional aswell. But I'm not gonna go that far.

[quote author=Sturmvogel Prime]

Quote:

Just got

Spring ball

Where do you get it?
[/quote]

Check Acheron's post on the last page >;!

Sturmvogel Prime

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Sturmvogel Prime: 2009-08-02 07:14:23 pm

2009-08-02 06:34:01 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

Got it

, Thanks everybody :) wish me good luck!

UPDATE: YEAH!! I found all the Artifacts!!

Televangelist

2009-08-02 06:43:13 pm

To the guy on the previous page: How'd you get Wave Beam without Spring Ball? Is there a glitch that allows you to bomb jump in water? Something like jumping from a tall height, then morph-balling so you bounce a little when you hit the ground? Enlighten, please.

Also, add the high-jump boots (and thus

Kraid

) to the list of items you can skip; there's nothing you need them for.

Derakon

2009-08-02 06:46:07 pm

Missiles are not optional!

You need at least three to get past the eye doors in the Spore Spawn / Botwoon area.

Also, regarding hi-jump:

Dunno if they're required for snail-climbing the wall to space jump, but they'll certainly make it way more feasible. The only other place I've seen snail-climb get used is in Saturn's RBO TAS, and I'm pretty certain he had hi-jump there too...which isn't conclusive of course.

Kriole

2009-08-02 07:05:18 pm

Meri Kurisumasu! ^_^

Quote from Televangelist:

To the guy on the previous page: How'd you get Wave Beam without Spring Ball? Is there a glitch that allows you to bomb jump in water? Something like jumping from a tall height, then morph-balling so you bounce a little when you hit the ground? Enlighten, please.

...uh. Hello, my name is Kriole. Nice to meet you.

Anyways,

it's combination of a reverse crumble jump, and a mini-jump (jumping while aiming diagonally in crouching position), which leaves just enough time/space to morph while still rising up in this 2-tile space.

Conveniently enough, it's a very nice shortcut for the Dranaphen/Cobalt Mountain clean-up. You are left off 2 rooms before Spring Ball. Also, wave/ice combo can dampen the lights in the Exterior Sandfalls.

Bond697

2009-08-02 07:06:58 pm

this is kinda random, but does anyone have "echoes of eris"? dmantra posted it back in january, and i'm curious to hear it. the link to it doesn't work any more.

Sturmvogel Prime

2009-08-02 07:56:41 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

Well, i defeated Draygon, and i found all the artifacts.

Actual Status
12 Energy Tanks
42 Missiles
23 Super Missiles
23 Power Bombs
Grappling Beam

Morphball, Bomb, Spring Ball, Evasion, Chozen Armor,
All 5 Beams
All Boot upgrades
All Artifacts

Where i can find Ridley and Mother Brain?

BTW Here's my map so far (check attached file)

attachment:

SM_Eris_Map.png

Derakon

2009-08-02 08:45:14 pm

Sturmvogel:

Head to the chozo village / mushroom forest area and explore there

Acheron

2009-08-02 08:58:54 pm

Acclaimed Threshold

Constant Sorrows

Kriole's right that my listed missile pack is optional. You do need at least three missiles, but there's no real need to get the pack I linked. I reference that area only because it becomes important to return to the same place later. (And also because it is a cool place to get your first missile pack.) And to clarify, his name IS Kriole, and he's known for his SM TAS skills, so the fact that he found a spring ball skip doesn't necessarily mean you can replicate it in real time.

That said, he totally did say that thing he said he wouldn't say, so even though he's not a bastard he's a bastard. Yeah, how ya like them applesss

I didn't strictly test for the mandatory requirement of high jump, I confess. It's probably skippable, but I imagine it requires the snail crawl method. Not having the high jump boots sucks too much to pass them up first time through the game, though, and that's what my mini-guide is for.

Again, anyone who's stuck on an item hunt, check the bottom of page ten of this thread.

Kriole's right that my listed missile pack is optional. You do need at least three missiles, but there's no real need to get the pack I linked. I reference that area only because it becomes important to return to the same place later. (And also because it is a cool place to get your first missile pack.) And to clarify, his name IS Kriole, and he's known for his SM TAS skills, so the fact that he found a spring ball skip doesn't necessarily mean you can replicate it in real time.

That said, he totally did say that thing he said he wouldn't say, so even though he's not a bastard he's a bastard. Yeah, how ya like them applesss

I didn't strictly test for the mandatory requirement of high jump, I confess. It's probably skippable, but I imagine it requires the snail crawl method. Not having the high jump boots sucks too much to pass them up first time through the game, though, and that's what my mini-guide is for.

Again, anyone who's stuck on an item hunt, check the bottom of page ten of this thread.

Sturmvogel Prime

2009-08-02 09:58:55 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

Killed Ridley, got the Report.

Stucked here, how i can get into the door?

attachment:

Super Metroid Eris_00000.png

Lucied Unlimited

2009-08-02 09:59:59 pm

All aboard the soul train

By the time you get there, you won't ever have to worry about it.

Go to the long hallway leading to the report and examine the floor very closely. You'll find it.

Obob1

2009-08-02 10:26:03 pm

Quote from Derakon:

Also, regarding hi-jump:

Dunno if they're required for snail-climbing the wall to space jump, but they'll certainly make it way more feasible. The only other place I've seen snail-climb get used is in Saturn's RBO TAS, and I'm pretty certain he had hi-jump there too...which isn't conclusive of course.

Snail climbing is the really painful way through that room, though. The other way is super easy (although it probably needs hi-jump).

Televangelist

2009-08-02 10:36:47 pm

Quote from Acheron86:

Finished my second playthrough... 97%, 2:43. There's one e-tank I just can't find, and probably a missile or super pack as well.

From what I've seen (Haven't finished yet, but estimate I'm going to be somewhere in the 95-100% range), I'm going to guess that the e-tank you're missing is this one (hint below), because it's the damnedest to find:

There's a reason you can go through the vertical morph-ball conveyor belt with mini metroids as repeatedly as you'd like...

Sturmvogel Prime

2009-08-02 10:49:14 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

When i pick the child THE GAME CRASHES WHEN I LEAVE THE ROOM!!!

Can you fix that DMantra?

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Super Metroid Eris_00001.png

Bond697

2009-08-02 10:51:29 pm

Quote from Sturmvogel Prime:

When i pick the child THE GAME CRASHES WHEN I LEAVE THE ROOM!!!

Can you fix that DMantra?

firephoenix fixed this. he put a patch up on page 4(5?). grab that and patch it over your eris rom. it works quite nicely.

Sturmvogel Prime

2009-08-02 10:56:25 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

Quote from Bond697:

Quote from Sturmvogel Prime:

When i pick the child THE GAME CRASHES WHEN I LEAVE THE ROOM!!!

Can you fix that DMantra?

firephoenix fixed this. he put a patch up on page 4(5?). grab that and patch it over your eris rom. it works quite nicely.

Can't find the patch Evil or Very Mad

Acheron

2009-08-02 11:02:47 pm

Acclaimed Threshold

Constant Sorrows

Quote from Televangelist:

From what I've seen (Haven't finished yet, but estimate I'm going to be somewhere in the 95-100% range), I'm going to guess that the e-tank you're missing is this one (hint below), because it's the damnedest to find:

There's a reason you can go through the vertical morph-ball conveyor belt with mini metroids as repeatedly as you'd like...

Actually, I found that one. I dunno, I'm stumped.

Sturmvogel: patch attached, for headered, should work fine atop the original patch.

attachment:

Super Metroid Eris fix [STILL HEADERED].ips

Derakon

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Derakon: 2009-08-03 12:34:38 am

2009-08-02 11:25:52 pm

Here's the tank that's really bugging me:

There's a big open room with acid in the bottom, fire spitting heads on the sides, a few grapple blocks along the top, and the E-tank in the top middle.

Also, I discovered something awesome: once you get Space Jump, you can bounce along the surface of the water with timed jumps, even if you started from underwater! I don't know if that's unique to this hack, and I don't think it has any actual use, but it's fun to do.

Edit: replayed it, cleared in 1:59 with 72% item collection. Funny that I grabbed more items this time through, since I got pretty sloppy towards the end. Once you know where all the key items are, there's a very nice path through the game that has almost minimal backtracking. Some thoughts on the replay:

Botwoon was significantly harder when I refused to use savestates mid-battle. It'd be much easier if his room didn't have those random blocks in the way.

Ridley, in contrast, is cake if you have the armor and a fully-powered beam, as opposed to no armor and just the charge-ice-spazer beam.

I cheezed GT again, this time intentionally. Just drive him towards the right wall, then crouch on the edge of the rightmost platform and shoot up. I think the way you're supposed to fight him is to shoot his attacks for refills, fire supers at him when full, and use Evasion to dodge. Too much work IMO.

Not needing to run through the underwater areas all the time wondering if they're the next way forward makes life so much more pleasant.

My recollection of the main route, using my made-up names for places since the official names don't mean anything to me:

Ship
Eris station proper (morphball)
Underwater area (missiles)
Chozo hometown (bombs)
Pirate Hub (Evasion)
Underwater area by way of Eris station proper (grapple beam)
Landing site BWO Eris station proper (charge beam)
Spore Spawn / Botwoon zone BWO ESP (super missiles)
Norfair BWO ESP, Pirate Hub (speedbooster)
Mushroom Forest BWO PH (powerbombs, first artifact)
Underwater area BWO PH, ESP (ice beam)
Icy Purple Metroids BWO ESP, Spore Spawn / Botwoon zone (second artifact, Hi-Jump)
Sandfall Zone BWO Ice Lake (Springball, Space Jump)
Pirate Pipes (third artifact)
Ice Lake (wave beam)
Norfair BWO ninja pirates, PH (fourth artifact, chozen armor)
Phazon Mines BWO PH, Mushroom Forest (elevator -> plasma beam)

So you do spend a fair amount of time bopping through Eris Station Proper and the Pirate Hub, but many of the new powerups drop you off near where you need to use them, and the hubs are designed to be quickly navigable.

Incidentally, if my second run through a hack takes two hours in-game, then I don't think it qualifies as a mini-hack. Minis, in my mind, take under an hour to beat once you know what you're doing.

Here's the tank that's really bugging me:
[spoiler]There's a big open room with acid in the bottom, fire spitting heads on the sides, a few grapple blocks along the top, and the E-tank in the top middle.[/spoiler]

Also, I discovered something awesome: once you get Space Jump, you can bounce along the surface of the water with timed jumps, even if you started from underwater! I don't know if that's unique to this hack, and I don't think it has any actual use, but it's fun to do.

Edit: replayed it, cleared in 1:59 with 72% item collection. Funny that I grabbed more items this time through, since I got pretty sloppy towards the end. Once you know where all the key items are, there's a very nice path through the game that has almost minimal backtracking. Some thoughts on the replay:
[spoiler]Botwoon was significantly harder when I refused to use savestates mid-battle. It'd be much easier if his room didn't have those random blocks in the way.

Ridley, in contrast, is cake if you have the armor and a fully-powered beam, as opposed to no armor and just the charge-ice-spazer beam.

I cheezed GT again, this time intentionally. Just drive him towards the right wall, then crouch on the edge of the rightmost platform and shoot up. I think the way you're [i]supposed[/i] to fight him is to shoot his attacks for refills, fire supers at him when full, and use Evasion to dodge. Too much work IMO.

Not needing to run through the underwater areas all the time wondering if they're the next way forward makes life so much more pleasant.[/spoiler]

My recollection of the main route, using my made-up names for places since the official names don't mean anything to me:
[spoiler]
Ship
Eris station proper (morphball)
Underwater area (missiles)
Chozo hometown (bombs)
Pirate Hub (Evasion)
Underwater area by way of Eris station proper (grapple beam)
Landing site BWO Eris station proper (charge beam)
Spore Spawn / Botwoon zone BWO ESP (super missiles)
Norfair BWO ESP, Pirate Hub (speedbooster)
Mushroom Forest BWO PH (powerbombs, first artifact)
Underwater area BWO PH, ESP (ice beam)
Icy Purple Metroids BWO ESP, Spore Spawn / Botwoon zone (second artifact, Hi-Jump)
Sandfall Zone BWO Ice Lake (Springball, Space Jump)
Pirate Pipes (third artifact)
Ice Lake (wave beam)
Norfair BWO ninja pirates, PH (fourth artifact, chozen armor)
Phazon Mines BWO PH, Mushroom Forest (elevator -> plasma beam)[/spoiler]
So you do spend a fair amount of time bopping through Eris Station Proper and the Pirate Hub, but many of the new powerups drop you off near where you need to use them, and the hubs are designed to be quickly navigable.

Incidentally, if my second run through a hack takes two hours in-game, then I don't think it qualifies as a mini-hack. Minis, in my mind, take under an hour to beat once you know what you're doing.

Sturmvogel Prime

2009-08-02 11:41:48 pm

Phazon Vasteel Autobot

Thanks Archeron!

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Time: 6:41, 87%, Child Saved

All that i have to said is well done DMantra, once again you surprised us with your hacks, Eris really feels like a sequel to Super Metroid.
It was a GREAT challenge find stuff, the difficulty for find items in Eris made SFI (Search For Items) look like kids stuff, the Artifact stuff reminds me of the Chozo Guardians of SM Redesign, but much easier, the Last Report was like the Chozo Lore in Cliffhanger, and about the graphic parts, it looks even better than Cliffhanger, and the water parts were fun to explore without ruining the game.

Keep up the good work DMantra!

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Super Metroid Eris_00000.png

Super Metroid Eris_00001.png

ChozunSDA

2009-08-03 02:28:03 am

80%

Child saved

Not really much more to say than this hack is a Masterpiece.

Found all the main items but

Screw Attack

gonna get 100% then speed run it.

SMILEuser96

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SMILEuser96: 2009-08-03 03:39:19 am

2009-08-03 02:48:53 am

Samus...? Is that you?

Screw Attack is replaced by

Evasion

i think.
So if you found

Evasion

, you found Screw Attack.

Evasion

is just like Screw Attack, except it doesn't kill enemies.

Edit: Yay, just found my second artifact grin new

I think i must find Kraid next

Edit2: Now i got Space Jump. Gotta go and get my 3rd artifact Dancing

Edit3: Only 1 fact more

axiol

2009-08-03 03:39:26 am

Finished this legendary hack in 4:29 with 79% collection.
Also, missed the suit and plasma. There are two sides to this...

+ I skipped Draygon.
- Ridley fight was painstakingly difficult.

Needed to CF at the metroid close to the end and evasion was a godsend.

This would have to be the best SM hack I've played, the effort put into it really shows.

Opium

2009-08-03 03:42:06 am

How do i get to the lower part of this room?

attachment:

SM Eris_00006.png

Lucied Unlimited

2009-08-03 03:49:51 am

All aboard the soul train

You need to find a different entrance. (Read: On the map screen, the room 3 spaces to the left)

You're going to need the Spring Ball.