Should the Prime series have another game?

2010-09-09 04:39:26 pm

Not impossible

just highly unlikely

I think they're running out of ways to bring Metroids back.

Metroid 2 painted them into a corner that they've been trying to get out of since.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-09-09 04:42:16 pm

Super and Fusion did it ok, but there's only so many times you can accept "they cloned them from the one Samus left at Ceres".

sabata2

2010-09-09 05:00:46 pm

ANKOKU

Have a station of clones, fall onto a planet (not at terminal velocity like the BSL) give it some new evolution pattern due to climate/experiments and voila. You have the new SR-388.

Have the plot go so that Samus can't exterminate them in that one game (either by they're too powerful or it's impossible to stop the breeding cycle of the new mutation). And you're set with X as an enemy, new Metroids as an enemy, and damn near all of space as an enemy (GFeds).

Quietus

2010-09-09 05:55:02 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

The easiest way out that I can see is to simply state than in one way or another, what was originally thought to be their homeworld wasn't actually their homeworld, and they had previously reached other parts of space. This would add backing to Samus's task of destroying them all, and would open up any number of games / worlds. Maybe that's too easy. I don't think at this point anybody would care so much about the story anyway, as long as we get a good game.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-09-09 05:57:12 pm

That works as long as they keep refusing to acknowledge the chozo and the fact that they and they alone created

EVERYTHING

in the metroid universe. Metroids, all the cool tech, the cool locations, they're all thanks to the chozo.

tomatobob

2010-09-09 05:58:23 pm

One shall stand, one shall ball.

They really shouldn't have to justify metroids existing. It's a Metroid game, why wouldn't there be metroids? And why should I care how they got there? The important thing is that they are there, those lovable scamps.

Quietus

2010-09-09 06:00:24 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

The Metroids to me are a bit like Ridley. And as tomatobob says, I don't really care how as much as the fact that they are here.

Quote from TheGreenManalishi:

That works as long as they keep refusing to acknowledge the chozo and the fact that they and they alone created

EVERYTHING

in the metroid universe. Metroids, all the cool tech, the cool locations, they're all thanks to the chozo.

Only if they're intent on a deeper story again. If they're just looking at 'Samus goes here to destroy the Metroids', then back story that deep isn't warranted. Most players don't really enjoy the games so much for their story as for the explorative gameplay.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-09-09 06:02:30 pm

With Ridley it's ok, but we've been told several times that all the metroids are dead, and then they sloppily excuse their reappearance.

They shoud seriously just go for the zelda route of no timeline whatsoever.

Quietus

2010-09-09 06:04:43 pm

Super Secret Area - Dead Ahead!

Or players could stop trying to overanalyse the story, and just say:

Quote from tomatobob:

why should I care how they got there? The important thing is that they are there, those lovable scamps.

Emphasis on the scamps, because it's a great choice of wordage.

TheGreenManalishi

2010-09-09 06:07:42 pm

there's overanalysis, and then there's the pieces not quite fitting properly. Don't get me wrong, a metroid without the scamps, regardless of why they're there, is Hunters. Need I say more?

Chozoid

2010-09-09 06:41:15 pm

Its not like its THAt hard to come up with a good story. I actually wouldnt mind if they just had "other metroids" invade as long as they're different than the others and they dont all get eliminated in one game. Also, bring back the Space Pirates, or at least some similar enemy.

ajbolt89

Edit history:

ajbolt89: 2010-09-10 05:25:49 am

2010-09-10 05:25:23 am

lol no way

I think a big part of what was awesome about Prime, especially on first play, was scanning. The deep back story was there from two different perspectives that coincided occasionally, and you found that story yourself through an extension of the original series's exploration-driven gameplay.
So I was confused by the way, regarding the space pirates. Do they just assimilate different species into their space-gang? Are they not all Zebesians, or what the heck is going on here anyway? I mean I think even the sum total of all the information on the story can't be that hard for any one dedicated employee to sift through and piece together plotholes, especially if they're given license to do so. Nintendo doesn't have to do it but it's almost like they've committed at this point.

UchihaSasuke

2010-09-10 04:12:10 pm

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

well, the way they mentioned the Zebesians and Space Pirates in Other M kinda implies that they're not the only pirates.

at least several of the bosses are pirates too and they're very different races (Kraid, Ridley)

ajbolt89

2010-09-10 05:21:22 pm

lol no way

Okay yeah, duh. I guess I was given to the impression that it was sort of about all the species being from Zebes, and Ridley was who made the creatures on the station act all violent... but considering it, I guess MB is what made the creatures that way. Look I just need to replay other M haha.

Idkbutlike2

2010-09-10 07:47:42 pm

Quote from UchihaSasuke:

well, the way they mentioned the Zebesians and Space Pirates in Other M kinda implies that they're not the only pirates.

at least several of the bosses are pirates too and they're very different races (Kraid, Ridley)

Which begs the question: where did Mother Brain recruit that giant lizard and fire-breathing pterodactyl anyway?

Turtle

2010-09-10 07:55:19 pm

I like turtles.

She promised Kraid free doughnuts for life. I dunno about Ridley, though.

Idkbutlike2

2010-09-10 08:22:39 pm

Quote from Turtle:

I dunno about Ridley, though.

She gave him the privilege of being mechanically reconstruction ad infinitum.

KingBroly

2010-09-10 10:22:23 pm

I don't want another Prime game. I would like to see a 2D Metroid game from Retro, though.

TheMG2

2010-09-10 10:23:29 pm

We'll see what happens after Donkey Kong Country Returns.

KingBroly

2010-09-10 10:56:17 pm

No way, after DKCR they're going to work on DCKR2 or Zelda.

TheMG2

2010-09-10 11:00:43 pm

I meant, whats the reaction to DKCR.

KingBroly

2010-09-10 11:02:31 pm

Oh. From what I've seen/played, DKCR is really hard. Like NSMBW World 9 hard. But I think it'll garner a lot of praise, but not as much as Kirby's Epic Yarn.

TheMG2

2010-09-10 11:09:10 pm

Played? Wait what?

KingBroly

Edit history:

KingBroly: 2010-09-10 11:11:13 pm

2010-09-10 11:10:44 pm

I've played a smidge of DKCR. I found it to be pretty tough.

UchihaSasuke

2010-09-11 12:04:06 am

my umbrella goes directly to Bankai

Quote from Idkbutlike2:

Quote from UchihaSasuke:

well, the way they mentioned the Zebesians and Space Pirates in Other M kinda implies that they're not the only pirates.

at least several of the bosses are pirates too and they're very different races (Kraid, Ridley)

Which begs the question: where did Mother Brain recruit that giant lizard and fire-breathing pterodactyl anyway?

according to the manga, Ridley was a pirate way before Mother Brain took over the pirates.