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radu242
2005-03-28 09:57:24 am
I was messing around w/ Ridley and he picked me up and I shot waves and waves of missles and I thought hey, mabey if I make him put me down at the wall he will smash me and do a lot of damage! So I did, only to have myself STUCK IN THE WALL Shocked!!! From there I killed him easily w/o being damaged!! :D It was easy to get out too.
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ShadowJedi
2005-03-28 10:02:39 am
That's been known for quite a while, and many have used it in their 1% runs over at SCU.
radu242
2005-03-28 10:12:39 am
Isn't that a SW? Last time I checked, you're not allowed to use SWs in Speed Runs (AKA going out of the room limits). Also, wouldn't Samus die from staying in Ridley's grip w/o and Energy Tanks too long?
ShadowJedi
2005-03-28 10:21:27 am
Afaik it's not a SW as you can't walk around too much out there, and I've never actually done it myself, so I don't know the minimum amount of damage taken when getting out of there.
Yoshi348
2005-03-28 12:20:48 pm
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Ready and willing.
Being wedged in the wall doesn't count as leaving the game boundaries.
radu242
2005-03-28 01:57:17 pm
Quote from Yoshi348:
Being wedged in the wall doesn't count as leaving the game boundaries.
Key word: in(look below)
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RR       |***
RR       |***
RR       |***
         |***
         SS**
         SS**
         SS**
         |***
_________|***

_=ground
*=wall
|=wall>free space/air
R=Ridley
S=Samus
JaggerG
2005-03-28 02:09:46 pm
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Actually, isn't there a way you could barrage it with charged beams and destroy it before it performs its tail whip and lowers your defense by -1?
Yoshi348
2005-03-28 02:25:09 pm
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Ready and willing.
Wouldn't that raise your defense by 1? </math pedant>

And as far as I interpet SDA's rules (which might not be a perfect interpetation, but I think I've got this right), in a 2D game, you'd have to walk through a wall and off the screen before you'd start to be considered "leaving the game boundries".
radu242
2005-03-28 02:45:38 pm
Ohhhhhhhhhh, thanks for the info!
JaggerG
2005-03-28 03:06:59 pm
Shifty Leader
That M2k2 guy
Darn ambiguousness...that's why it's hard to argue for a M1 2 item run to be accepted. You basically warp to the other side of the screen.
Sasuke_Kun
(user is banned)
2005-04-13 08:15:00 am
I never knew that-I always killed Ridley before he could grab me, but I wouldn't say it was an SW since you are still inside the room.
gleepdiddly
2005-04-13 03:15:21 pm
If you can see Samus the whole time, I don't think it would be a SW.
Roxinos
2005-04-21 04:25:16 pm
One...what is an SW...and how exactly do you get Ridley to toss you out of the screen?
Skreemaster
2005-04-21 04:51:46 pm
I'll be back. Maybe...
An SW: The area outside the game boundaries. The term originated from Metroid 1, in which there was a door clipping glitch whereby you could climb out of the top of the screen into bits of the system code.

In MP and Echoes they are reached by clipping glitches, which the Screw Attack produces in abundance e.g. Screw Attacking into Spider Guardian's tunnel to get into an SW to skip the Cobalt Translator.

Edit: It's done in DJGrenola's run, IIRC

They are also present in M2, and used as shortcuts, but are very glitchy and full of Metroids which don't decrease the counter and bits of Chozo statue.
Roxinos
2005-04-21 08:27:02 pm
*nods nods* I've done the door thing before...but why is it called SW? What does SW mean? Oh and I didn't know about that stuff in MP and Echoes...
Jeramyu
2005-04-21 08:54:44 pm
SW stands for "Secret World".
Roxinos
2005-04-27 09:26:02 am
Oh...that makes sense...
PurpleyRidley
2005-06-01 09:49:34 pm
Speaking of SWs, I could never get any SWs in Prime 1....
arkarian
2005-06-01 10:00:10 pm
red chamber dream
PurpleyRidley, check the dates of a topic before you post. You just bumped a two month-old topic, which is against the Rules. If you haven't read them yet, please do so.
Yoshi348
2005-06-02 12:15:11 am
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Ready and willing.
Especially when it has nothing to do with anything about the topic, or Fusion for that matter.